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zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
January 13 2012 20:06 GMT
#1021
On January 14 2012 04:53 CosmicSpiral wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 04:52 Demorase wrote:
I don't think this is good for MC in the long run. I mean sure right now he's in great shape and this will allow him to participate in more foreign tournaments yay, but about in the next few months? How is he going to practice to stay in shape, who is gonna be there to coach him and make him stick to a rigorous training schedule when he's living all by himself?

Pro-houses is what makes korean pro-gamers the best, so without one well... Guess we'll see


It depends. Players like MvP and Nestea have years of Brood War experience with training and self-motivation, so they are able to push themselves without a team house environment. There is no palpable reason why MC should not be able to do the same.

well that`s only half the truth. Sure, MVP and nestea dont live in the IM house, but from what I heard they come by sometimes and always talk and train with their teammates. That`s a huge benefit when preparing for GSL or iron out new builds.
keep it deep! @zulison
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:08:52
January 13 2012 20:08 GMT
#1022
Really great news for both parties!
ntvarify
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
January 13 2012 20:08 GMT
#1023
I wonder if this means that some BW players will be switching and joining SK, because otherwise I can't really see any reason why MC would switch.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:12:15
January 13 2012 20:09 GMT
#1024
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896

Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 13 2012 20:09 GMT
#1025
Really unexpected :o. Of course lacking a practice house might not be beneficial though. But on the other side, everyone in Korea practices with eachother, MC has practice partners anyway. Who knows, maybe if he prefers this environment, he will actually improve faster.
sc14s
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5052 Posts
January 13 2012 20:10 GMT
#1026
On January 14 2012 05:08 ntvarify wrote:
I wonder if this means that some BW players will be switching and joining SK, because otherwise I can't really see any reason why MC would switch.

its called money, it is what makes this whole esports thing work.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 13 2012 20:11 GMT
#1027
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896


Well he's been on for months so I assume they've treated him well and it's not a problem. Sure SK has done some crappy things but I don't think it's a good reason to freak out if we're an MC fan.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
January 13 2012 20:11 GMT
#1028
That is something I didn't expect jesus :o.
When I think of something else, something will go here
bundo
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada113 Posts
January 13 2012 20:11 GMT
#1029
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTT
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
January 13 2012 20:14 GMT
#1030
Err guessing he'll still stay in oGs House.
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 13 2012 20:14 GMT
#1031
On January 14 2012 02:03 Newbistic wrote:
Well, hopefully he doesn't lose any practice partners due to this move. That's probably the most important thing. So SK now has a 1-man Starcraft 2 team?

SK should join foreign clanwars and MC just gets 5 lives. :D
lessQQmorePEWPEW
Profile Joined November 2011
Jamaica921 Posts
January 13 2012 20:15 GMT
#1032
whaat the fuck? when why what?
this is fucked rofl.
mindfuck of the day
Why drink and drive when you can smoke and fly - Bob Marley
trancey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany729 Posts
January 13 2012 20:15 GMT
#1033
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896

yeah but he played for them for a year now?!
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#1034
On January 14 2012 05:11 Olinimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896


Well he's been on for months so I assume they've treated him well and it's not a problem. Sure SK has done some crappy things but I don't think it's a good reason to freak out if we're an MC fan.

They were just sending him to tournaments earlier, now he's getting payed buy them also. And also I think the whole plan of the oGsSK deal was to snake out MC and now that they were succesful they ended the partnership. Obviously they cant start to treat him like shit if he wasn't even on a contract with them. The SK/oGs deal was between the SK orga and oGs, but now MC individually is on a contract with SK, which means that his stuck there for a long time. I personally dont think this was a good move for MC, although I like Reis, SK has had a really shady management since bds left. A lot of the old managers from SK have been criticizing TheSlash's way to manage the team.
Ruyguy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada988 Posts
January 13 2012 20:16 GMT
#1035
Wow! I'm sure MC knows what's best for MC. Good luck to you my man .
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
January 13 2012 20:17 GMT
#1036
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896



That was only the CS-players. I have a friend who was manager for a lot of the players you mentioned and the reason they didn't get any payment from SK was some controversy with them jumping teams, losing on purpose and whatnot. Again, this only concerned the CS-players.
rontol
Profile Joined June 2011
71 Posts
January 13 2012 20:17 GMT
#1037
Since all still blur... let's play guessing game

how much they pay MC per month/year?


lol
Life is a (fateful) choice
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 13 2012 20:17 GMT
#1038
On January 14 2012 05:15 trancey_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896

yeah but he played for them for a year now?!

He wasnt under SK contract.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
January 13 2012 20:18 GMT
#1039
On January 14 2012 05:16 Eee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:11 Olinimm wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896


Well he's been on for months so I assume they've treated him well and it's not a problem. Sure SK has done some crappy things but I don't think it's a good reason to freak out if we're an MC fan.

They were just sending him to tournaments earlier, now he's getting payed buy them also. And also I think the whole plan of the oGsSK deal was to snake out MC and now that they were succesful they ended the partnership. Obviously they cant start to treat him like shit if he wasn't even on a contract with them. The SK/oGs deal was between the SK orga and oGs, but now MC individually is on a contract with SK, which means that his stuck there for a long time. I personally dont think this was a good move for MC, although I like Reis, SK has had a really shady management since bds left. A lot of the old managers from SK have been criticizing TheSlash's way to manage the team.

He was already getting a salary from them.
Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
January 13 2012 20:20 GMT
#1040
The team house might not be a loss for MC in this case, I personally think he might have wanted to live alone in the first place. MC has participated in a lot of foreign tournaments in the last year (very succesfully).

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