• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 16:41
CEST 22:41
KST 05:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League61Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Starcraft player cRuZa Passed away. Bot on ladder Battle.net abbreviations list Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP Do we even care about balance?
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0 2v2v2v2 Tournament
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 7916 users

MC leaves oGs, joins SK full time - Page 54

Forum Index > SC2 General
1803 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 91 Next
NEXUS6
Profile Joined July 2011
United States413 Posts
January 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#1061
Who is on SK gaming? because I have no idea, I just hope he can get even better on his new team.
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:34:59
January 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#1062
SKIron has a better ring to it

i know SK by their CS team, they were one of the best back in the day.
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
January 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#1063
On January 14 2012 05:33 Greggle wrote:
Poor oGs, that was their star player and I feel like they've really been underperforming lately =/

Hell, they've always underperformed in the team league. Hopefully ForGG can rise to the challenge next season.

oGs has been and still is one of the most represented team in Code S. They're not underperforming.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Centurio
Profile Joined September 2011
11 Posts
January 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#1064
what?! i dont belive that...:<
EnderCraft
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1746 Posts
January 13 2012 20:34 GMT
#1065
soooo... what about Nada? Is oGs/SK still a thing or....
SC:BW has a higher skill ceiling than SC2? SC 64 is where it's at brah.
kruxey
Profile Joined September 2011
Bulgaria168 Posts
January 13 2012 20:35 GMT
#1066
On January 14 2012 05:33 Greggle wrote:
Poor oGs, that was their star player and I feel like they've really been underperforming lately =/

Hell, they've always underperformed in the team league. Hopefully ForGG can rise to the challenge next season.


Supernova has been doing amazing as well lately.
I wonder where will MC train now and are there any good sk players since I dont know any tbh :/
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
January 13 2012 20:35 GMT
#1067
sk was a REALLY good esport house back then when they had first team in cs for a year (ex NiP), but few years later they became kinda mediocre not to say worse
Stork[gm]
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 13 2012 20:36 GMT
#1068
I can't believe he's living on his own. I would assume with NaDa still being an oGs-SK player (if he still is) and with his history he would want to stay and train in the oGs house and I'm sure they would've allowed it...
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
January 13 2012 20:37 GMT
#1069
On January 14 2012 05:34 Oldfool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:26 Eee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 14 2012 05:25 iCerOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896



Well, first of all SK-Gaming is one of the youngest esport-clans with that level of success. Could compare with mTw but anyways. This clan has a lot of tradition and high values regarding to professionalism so i really doubt ur statement.
Even when there was problems with transactions its just the half of the truth what u mentioned. Don´t spread such things in that manner plz...

Lol i have sources with the players that are contracted by SK themselves saying it and you're saying I'm spreading lies? -.-

If this was truely the case how have they survived, why are they still getting sponsorship and why do people still represent them? It's a bit of a stretch to think all those players that left SK had no other conflicts with management which would account for anything withheld, if that is actually true.

You do realize there is a shit ton of cases in gaming where people haven't been paid, yet every single organization is very much alive? And the SK heaton thing has been known for a long time.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 13 2012 20:37 GMT
#1070
I don't like this move by MC
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
cutler
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany609 Posts
January 13 2012 20:38 GMT
#1071
Pretty clear move since SK Gaming is one of the biggest Clans ever. They pay alot for good Players....i always wondered why they started so late with Starcraft2. MC seems to be the perfect Player for SK.

For the guy who bashed on SK regarding Salary. Fragbite and Rakaka are known as Yellow Press...i think thats the word for bad but entertaining news? For german people it is like BILD Zeitung.

I have alot of respect for SK since they provide alot of support if they are interested...and in this case...they seem to have it.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 13 2012 20:42 GMT
#1072
On January 14 2012 05:34 NEXUS6 wrote:
Who is on SK gaming? because I have no idea, I just hope he can get even better on his new team.


MC
Nada
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
terialk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:44:26
January 13 2012 20:43 GMT
#1073
Eee, you don't say everything about the situation with Gux. That was one of the major controversies between Fnatic trying to buy out Gux without SK noticing, which resulted in all kinds of drama. For SK's POV on that issue, http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/30070-The_facts_and_figures_behind_Guxs_departure is what they had to say about it. The Delpan situation was yet another controversy between Fnatic and SK trying to get players from one another. At the time, I viewed it as SK trying to get back at Fnatic from the Gux situation =.=. Anyways, I'm just saying you should present both sides of the argument so people can draw their own conclusions instead of only providing one side's perspective.

Edit: Also, if MC has any problems with SK, I'm sure he will have no qualms about voicing his discontent if it occurs,
"This is not the beginning of an end. Instead, it is the end of a beginning." // Little Sprite Fan :D // Never go full China. // At least NA won at Dota 2.
Trippy380
Profile Joined May 2011
Brazil14 Posts
January 13 2012 20:43 GMT
#1074
On January 14 2012 00:52 SFX wrote:
I'm Jack's overwhelming shock.


+1.
Great Fight Club-like statement
Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy.
Tenks
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3104 Posts
January 13 2012 20:44 GMT
#1075
On January 14 2012 05:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:34 NEXUS6 wrote:
Who is on SK gaming? because I have no idea, I just hope he can get even better on his new team.


MC
Nada


Is NaDa on SK? He was part of the oGs-SK alliance but I didn't hear that he left oGs for SK as well.
Wat
Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
January 13 2012 20:44 GMT
#1076
WHATTTTTTT
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:45:19
January 13 2012 20:44 GMT
#1077
On January 14 2012 05:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:34 NEXUS6 wrote:
Who is on SK gaming? because I have no idea, I just hope he can get even better on his new team.


MC
Nada

just mc now partnership over
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
January 13 2012 20:45 GMT
#1078
The only SK team I've ever liked was their legendary DotA team with Loda on his best. God that team was incredible.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:51:20
January 13 2012 20:45 GMT
#1079
On January 14 2012 05:34 Oldfool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:26 Eee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 14 2012 05:25 iCerOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896



Well, first of all SK-Gaming is one of the youngest esport-clans with that level of success. Could compare with mTw but anyways. This clan has a lot of tradition and high values regarding to professionalism so i really doubt ur statement.
Even when there was problems with transactions its just the half of the truth what u mentioned. Don´t spread such things in that manner plz...

Lol i have sources with the players that are contracted by SK themselves saying it and you're saying I'm spreading lies? -.-

If this was truely the case how have they survived, why are they still getting sponsorship and why do people still represent them? It's a bit of a stretch to think all those players that left SK had no other conflicts with management which would account for anything withheld, if that is actually true.

Lol there's no doubt that SK have lost a lot of the prestige they once had. The CS team sticks because no other teams want to sponsor CS any longer. SK has had A LOT (!!!) of sponsor issues the latest 4 years (Acer dropping out on them and creating Team Acer for example due to different views). And also SK does NOT have that much super-top level teams that they once had, they struggled a lot with getting an sc2 lineup (and they still dont have one, just MC). Most of their other teams are limited to the EPS leagues and germany and are not holding a worldwide scale like the once used to. SK-Gaming is not what it used to be.

SK-Gaming used to be the premier esports site once upon a time, with the best journalists (people like Zechs for example), and the best article. Nowadays theres nothing intresting left on that site. a lot of the respected journalists has left the editorial crew. They don't even provide intresting news in their premier lineups game (cs 1.6) any longer. People rather google translate Fragbite.com or read HLTV.

Writing for SK-Gaming is like beeing i journalist in nazi-germany, the news are heavily biased. And if they're affiliated with any other sponsor then the ones who sponsors them the news gets removed.

I'm sorry if you have'nt realised yet but SK Gaming has been on decline for the last 4 years.

Edit: i cant be bothered finding sources all the time, heres a source of a few of the sponsors SK has lost in the last couple of years. If you google, you can find more detailed lists.
http://www.hltv.org/news/6574-sk-take-sponsor-feud-to-court
xilaratu
Profile Joined July 2010
United States233 Posts
January 13 2012 20:45 GMT
#1080
um... wat?

...
...


this is just silly.
Prev 1 52 53 54 55 56 91 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
02:00
RO8 - Day 1
FEL
18:00
ScienceCraft - Day 1
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 436
JuggernautJason93
Nina 4
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 837
ZZZero.O 216
Dewaltoss 136
HiyA 40
Hyuk 27
Mong 20
Dota 2
syndereN139
canceldota59
febbydoto3
League of Legends
JimRising 646
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox206
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu682
Trikslyr72
Other Games
Grubby3483
FrodaN2053
Liquid`RaSZi1954
Cr1tdota1468
B2W.Neo810
ToD214
KnowMe124
QueenE40
CosmosSc2 10
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1737
StarCraft 2
angryscii 30
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• printf 246
• Adnapsc2 30
• HeavenSC 14
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• ChaeLyn 7
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos3850
• Nemesis3459
• Scarra1284
Other Games
• imaqtpie833
• Shiphtur536
• tFFMrPink 12
Upcoming Events
FEL
13h 20m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
13h 20m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
WardiTV Weekly
1d 15h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
4 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
5 days
[ Show More ]
GSL
5 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.