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Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
January 13 2012 20:49 GMT
#1081
WHAT?????? but but but......... oGs was my fav team because of MC..... what Korean team will i cheer for now?


this makes me one damn sad panda folks .... good luck boss toss i still love you!
No Artosis, you are robin
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:55:06
January 13 2012 20:50 GMT
#1082
On January 14 2012 05:43 terialk wrote:
Eee, you don't say everything about the situation with Gux. That was one of the major controversies between Fnatic trying to buy out Gux without SK noticing, which resulted in all kinds of drama. For SK's POV on that issue, http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/30070-The_facts_and_figures_behind_Guxs_departure is what they had to say about it. The Delpan situation was yet another controversy between Fnatic and SK trying to get players from one another. At the time, I viewed it as SK trying to get back at Fnatic from the Gux situation =.=. Anyways, I'm just saying you should present both sides of the argument so people can draw their own conclusions instead of only providing one side's perspective.

Edit: Also, if MC has any problems with SK, I'm sure he will have no qualms about voicing his discontent if it occurs,

Yes that is true? but GuX won those four tournamensts (without beeing contracted) therefore he deserves his share of the price money? how can you disagree with this statement?
I agree that he didnt deserve his salaries, but SK had no right taking his prize money away (since he wasnt contracted, they were'nt entitled the money in the first place which means a fifth of the prize money was his).

Edit: And also note that your source is from SK itself, it's pretty biased.
Epoxide
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Magic Woods9326 Posts
January 13 2012 20:51 GMT
#1083
Hopefully this doesn't end up like Fruitdealer, Tester or Rain. >_>
Really weird choice in my opinion.
Best of luck! ~~
LiquipediaSouma: EU MM is just Russian Roulette. Literally.
ToAnyone
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada326 Posts
January 13 2012 20:52 GMT
#1084
good luck MC! :D
! SK.MC ! Liquid'HerO ! coL.MVPDongRaeGu ! FXO_Leenock !
Deleted User 135096
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
3624 Posts
January 13 2012 20:54 GMT
#1085
whoa, didn't see that coming.
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ydeer1993
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom569 Posts
January 13 2012 20:54 GMT
#1086
On January 14 2012 05:49 Deathmanbob wrote:
WHAT?????? but but but......... oGs was my fav team because of MC..... what Korean team will i cheer for now?


this makes me one damn sad panda folks .... good luck boss toss i still love you!


Thats Easy! Slayers or IM,

slayers for MMA n boxer, IM For MVP :D

Also this was totally out of the blue, good luck to him, but i think his skills might decline without a proper team to practice with.!
**MMA** - MVP - Seed !
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45855 Posts
January 13 2012 20:54 GMT
#1087
On January 14 2012 05:51 Epoxide wrote:
Hopefully this doesn't end up like Fruitdealer, Tester or Rain. >_>
Really weird choice in my opinion.
Best of luck! ~~


I don't understand the parallel here between these three and MC
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 20:56:14
January 13 2012 20:55 GMT
#1088
On January 14 2012 05:54 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:51 Epoxide wrote:
Hopefully this doesn't end up like Fruitdealer, Tester or Rain. >_>
Really weird choice in my opinion.
Best of luck! ~~


I don't understand the parallel here between these three and MC

I think he's meaning that MC starts slumping because he doesnt have a strucuted practice environment and schedule.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
January 13 2012 20:56 GMT
#1089
On January 14 2012 05:54 ydeer1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:49 Deathmanbob wrote:
WHAT?????? but but but......... oGs was my fav team because of MC..... what Korean team will i cheer for now?


this makes me one damn sad panda folks .... good luck boss toss i still love you!


Thats Easy! Slayers or IM,

slayers for MMA n boxer, IM For MVP :D

Also this was totally out of the blue, good luck to him, but i think his skills might decline without a proper team to practice with.!



i am a MMA anti fan... i will never cheer for slayers.... i think NSHS might have to be my team now, loving me their games lately
No Artosis, you are robin
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
January 13 2012 20:57 GMT
#1090
On January 14 2012 05:44 Tenks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:42 Torte de Lini wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:34 NEXUS6 wrote:
Who is on SK gaming? because I have no idea, I just hope he can get even better on his new team.


MC
Nada


Is NaDa on SK? He was part of the oGs-SK alliance but I didn't hear that he left oGs for SK as well.


OGS SK for Nada, but the partnership is over, so...

yeah
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#1091
Fits well with http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/15765859282/is-this-the-end

Its becoming more and more difficult for top level koreans to go to foreign tournaments. In the interests of their career they are doing what is best for them. Rightly so.


Less worthy to partner a whole team and better to pick a single player to send around.
Oldfool
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia394 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 21:00:28
January 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#1092
On January 14 2012 05:45 Eee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:34 Oldfool wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 14 2012 05:26 Eee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 14 2012 05:25 iCerOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896



Well, first of all SK-Gaming is one of the youngest esport-clans with that level of success. Could compare with mTw but anyways. This clan has a lot of tradition and high values regarding to professionalism so i really doubt ur statement.
Even when there was problems with transactions its just the half of the truth what u mentioned. Don´t spread such things in that manner plz...

Lol i have sources with the players that are contracted by SK themselves saying it and you're saying I'm spreading lies? -.-

If this was truely the case how have they survived, why are they still getting sponsorship and why do people still represent them? It's a bit of a stretch to think all those players that left SK had no other conflicts with management which would account for anything withheld, if that is actually true.

Lol there's no doubt that SK have lost a lot of the prestige they once had. The CS team sticks because no other teams want to sponsor CS any longer. SK has had A LOT (!!!) of sponsor issues the latest 4 years (Acer dropping out on them and creating Team Acer for example due to different views). And also SK does NOT have that much super-top level teams that they once had, they struggled a lot with getting an sc2 lineup (and they still dont have one, just MC). Most of their other teams are limited to the EPS leagues and germany and are not holding a worldwide scale like the once used to. SK-Gaming is not what it used to be.

SK-Gaming used to be the premier esports site once upon a time, with the best journalists (people like Zechs for example), and the best article. Nowadays theres nothing intresting left on that site. a lot of the respected journalists has left the editorial crew. They don't even provide intresting news in their premier lineups game (cs 1.6) any longer. People rather google translate Fragbite.com or read HLTV.

Writing for SK-Gaming is like beeing i journalist in nazi-germany, the news are heavily biased. And if they're affiliated with any other sponsor then the ones who sponsors them the news gets removed.

I'm sorry if you have'nt realised yet but SK Gaming has been on decline for the last 4 years.

Edit: i cant be bothered finding sources all the time, heres a source of a few of the sponsors SK has lost in the last couple of years. If you google, you can find more detailed lists.
http://www.hltv.org/news/6574-sk-take-sponsor-feud-to-court

Tbh I haven't followed SK since I stopped playing WoW and lost interest in their arena teams, which would explain why I missed a lot of drama! Thanks for links/infos.

I just hope MC's been through the contract thoroughly so as to avoid any issues that may arise.
"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to discern whether or not they are genuine." - Abraham Lincoln
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 13 2012 20:59 GMT
#1093
I'm not sure why so few people are reacting to this surprising bit of news! + Show Spoiler +
Hehehe :p
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andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
January 13 2012 21:00 GMT
#1094
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy T_T
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Yang Wenli
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2283 Posts
January 13 2012 21:01 GMT
#1095
Hmm...Friday the 13th, such a terrible omen indeed.
tapk69
Profile Joined January 2011
Portugal264 Posts
January 13 2012 21:02 GMT
#1096
On January 14 2012 05:51 Epoxide wrote:
Hopefully this doesn't end up like Fruitdealer, Tester or Rain. >_>
Really weird choice in my opinion.
Best of luck! ~~



Comparing MC with those players is like comparing a Ferrari to a Fiat .. not to discredit those players but MC is hands down the best player of his race since the game was released.
ja foste
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
January 13 2012 21:02 GMT
#1097
On January 14 2012 05:59 Oldfool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:45 Eee wrote:
On January 14 2012 05:34 Oldfool wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 14 2012 05:26 Eee wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

On January 14 2012 05:25 iCerOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2012 05:09 Eee wrote:
SOME FACTS EVERY MC FANS NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT SK-GAMING!!!!!!! READ THIS!

esport legends Heaton and Potti told fragbite that they retired because they lost their passion due to SK Gaming not paying salaries. (interview is from 2011, but the events took place in 2003-2004 I believe)

CS 1.6 Legend SK Tentpoles girlfriend revealed in 2009 after his retirement that a huge factor behind him retiring was that he didnt recieve his salaries and prize money from events.

In 2010 Swedish cs player Gux joined SK-Gaming and played in the team for 3 months. In this period of time he won 2-3 tournaments but never signed a contract. Obviously Gux understood that he wouldnt recieve his salary because he never signed the contract, but the SK organization also refused to give him the prizemoney which he had legitimatley won at the tournament.

They were involved in a Scandal last spring 2011, where they signed a Fnatic contracted player Delpan and didnt pay the contract exchange fee (pretty much the same thing as the Complexity/Millenium dilemma, the diffrence is the problem still remains unsolved).

This just a few of all scandals SK-Gaming have been involved in.

Sources: (all these sources are in swedish, but you can easily understand the context with google translate. Also the video interview with Heaton and Potti is in swedish but has english subtitles)
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=15655
http://www.fragbite.se/?newsID=17713
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16893
http://rakaka.se/?newsID=16896



Well, first of all SK-Gaming is one of the youngest esport-clans with that level of success. Could compare with mTw but anyways. This clan has a lot of tradition and high values regarding to professionalism so i really doubt ur statement.
Even when there was problems with transactions its just the half of the truth what u mentioned. Don´t spread such things in that manner plz...

Lol i have sources with the players that are contracted by SK themselves saying it and you're saying I'm spreading lies? -.-

If this was truely the case how have they survived, why are they still getting sponsorship and why do people still represent them? It's a bit of a stretch to think all those players that left SK had no other conflicts with management which would account for anything withheld, if that is actually true.

Lol there's no doubt that SK have lost a lot of the prestige they once had. The CS team sticks because no other teams want to sponsor CS any longer. SK has had A LOT (!!!) of sponsor issues the latest 4 years (Acer dropping out on them and creating Team Acer for example due to different views). And also SK does NOT have that much super-top level teams that they once had, they struggled a lot with getting an sc2 lineup (and they still dont have one, just MC). Most of their other teams are limited to the EPS leagues and germany and are not holding a worldwide scale like the once used to. SK-Gaming is not what it used to be.

SK-Gaming used to be the premier esports site once upon a time, with the best journalists (people like Zechs for example), and the best article. Nowadays theres nothing intresting left on that site. a lot of the respected journalists has left the editorial crew. They don't even provide intresting news in their premier lineups game (cs 1.6) any longer. People rather google translate Fragbite.com or read HLTV.

Writing for SK-Gaming is like beeing i journalist in nazi-germany, the news are heavily biased. And if they're affiliated with any other sponsor then the ones who sponsors them the news gets removed.

I'm sorry if you have'nt realised yet but SK Gaming has been on decline for the last 4 years.

Edit: i cant be bothered finding sources all the time, heres a source of a few of the sponsors SK has lost in the last couple of years. If you google, you can find more detailed lists.
http://www.hltv.org/news/6574-sk-take-sponsor-feud-to-court

Tbh I haven't followed SK since I stopped playing WoW and lost interest in their arena teams, which would explain why I missed a lot of drama! Thanks for links/infos.

I just hope MC's been through the contract thoroughly so as to avoid any issues that may arise.

I think MC will be fine as long as he'll keep producing results (that at least how i have understanded the mentality of management of SK-gaming).

HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
January 13 2012 21:04 GMT
#1098
Wow, no one saw this happening I don't think!

How is he going to train now that he's not on ogs? With nada? MC bossmode pvt inc!!!!!
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CitrusFo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada116 Posts
January 13 2012 21:07 GMT
#1099
With this happening can we expect SKT1 to move towards sc2?
Sup Dawgs. Im Simon
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
January 13 2012 21:08 GMT
#1100
Thats one, now lets see if SK can sign Nada (i doubt it though)
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