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kevinmon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
December 27 2011 18:00 GMT
#121
On December 28 2011 02:11 PrinceVegeta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!


Thank you Tyler! I am currently high masters and hope to to GM one day. People having multiple accounts in GM makes this a lot harder for the rest of the community who aren't progamers but want to reach the highest level of competition on ladder.

Being in GM has nothing to do with the skill of who you play
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
December 27 2011 18:02 GMT
#122
On December 28 2011 03:00 kevinmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 02:11 PrinceVegeta wrote:
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!


Thank you Tyler! I am currently high masters and hope to to GM one day. People having multiple accounts in GM makes this a lot harder for the rest of the community who aren't progamers but want to reach the highest level of competition on ladder.

Being in GM has nothing to do with the skill of who you play



?? actually it does
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
December 27 2011 18:03 GMT
#123
On December 28 2011 03:00 kevinmon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 02:11 PrinceVegeta wrote:
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!


Thank you Tyler! I am currently high masters and hope to to GM one day. People having multiple accounts in GM makes this a lot harder for the rest of the community who aren't progamers but want to reach the highest level of competition on ladder.

Being in GM has nothing to do with the skill of who you play


Of course it does, don't be such a crank. Bronze leaguers can't get into GM.
FT.aCt)Sony
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1048 Posts
December 27 2011 18:08 GMT
#124
I dont see why everyone is crying over "GM" status. It is nothing but a symbol, nothing more, nothing less.

You have masters players who que against and play against GM's all the time. But yet they dont get any recognition. Sure they may be no-names, but the ones who end up taking games off those known individuals still are there doing it, despite not having a ridiculous symbol.

Blizzard needs to not lock GM. Honestly they need to have it rotating in and out with a current basis of players. Just have the MMR formula register individuals correctly to differentiate the points between Masters and GM once acquired or lost.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
December 27 2011 18:08 GMT
#125
On December 28 2011 02:11 PrinceVegeta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!


Thank you Tyler! I am currently high masters and hope to to GM one day. People having multiple accounts in GM makes this a lot harder for the rest of the community who aren't progamers but want to reach the highest level of competition on ladder.


You're thanking him for an illogical reason. He's saying pro/really good players shouldn't hog GM with multiple accounts because it won't let others have access to the bragging rights. It has no bearing on who you're able to play -- that's determined by MMR, not by actual league. For example, a bronze player with sufficient MMR could be matched against silver/gold players (or high masters matched w/ GM)
Synapze
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada563 Posts
December 27 2011 18:08 GMT
#126
Why does blizzard just reset MMR every season so the start of the season actually MEANS something? There is absolutely no point to play for grandmaster with the current system as someone with a 0-1 record (previous grandmaster) will likely still get grandmaster instantly.

Another nice touch would be adding a scheduled release of the ladder so people can set their alarms or something. This doesn't indicate a fair playing field at all.
Yuri Victoria LMJ ~♥
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 27 2011 18:13 GMT
#127
On December 28 2011 03:08 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
I dont see why everyone is crying over "GM" status. It is nothing but a symbol, nothing more, nothing less.

You have masters players who que against and play against GM's all the time. But yet they dont get any recognition. Sure they may be no-names, but the ones who end up taking games off those known individuals still are there doing it, despite not having a ridiculous symbol.

Blizzard needs to not lock GM. Honestly they need to have it rotating in and out with a current basis of players. Just have the MMR formula register individuals correctly to differentiate the points between Masters and GM once acquired or lost.


The system Blizzard had before GM was actually better than GM. They used to publish a top 200 list once a week with the current top 200, this was a quite up to date and accurate depiction of who the top 200 players in the region were. Now you have a GM league with a bunch of 1-0 or 2-0 kids and a number of other multiple smurf accounts that people play a couple games a week on just to keep the bonus pool down so the account doesn't get kicked out.
KingDime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada750 Posts
December 27 2011 18:18 GMT
#128
Very true, getting on that top 200 list even just a couple of times felt awesome while GM is quite trivial at times. With Blizz's system I really don't know where I lie which I really should ignore and focus on my gameplay but I don't....
Doom Guy
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
December 27 2011 18:20 GMT
#129
Awesome, just played my placement match and I can't get placed. Battle.net 0.2 lololol
ScvOfAiur
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Sweden15 Posts
December 27 2011 18:26 GMT
#130
This will ge restted!
feeling like a dase
Siphonn
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States298 Posts
December 27 2011 18:28 GMT
#131
Winning and not able to gain points, and losing and losing points. TT, my wins also arent counting. This is just silly.
ratzp0li
Profile Joined December 2011
United States340 Posts
December 27 2011 18:30 GMT
#132
combatex didn't get in?

this is silly...
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
December 27 2011 18:31 GMT
#133
On December 28 2011 03:13 LuckyFool wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 03:08 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
I dont see why everyone is crying over "GM" status. It is nothing but a symbol, nothing more, nothing less.

You have masters players who que against and play against GM's all the time. But yet they dont get any recognition. Sure they may be no-names, but the ones who end up taking games off those known individuals still are there doing it, despite not having a ridiculous symbol.

Blizzard needs to not lock GM. Honestly they need to have it rotating in and out with a current basis of players. Just have the MMR formula register individuals correctly to differentiate the points between Masters and GM once acquired or lost.


The system Blizzard had before GM was actually better than GM. They used to publish a top 200 list once a week with the current top 200, this was a quite up to date and accurate depiction of who the top 200 players in the region were. Now you have a GM league with a bunch of 1-0 or 2-0 kids and a number of other multiple smurf accounts that people play a couple games a week on just to keep the bonus pool down so the account doesn't get kicked out.



I basically agree. I think they should go back to something like it and just call that GM. They could also just make it purely MMR based. At the beginning of each season, they could check the stats to see what MMR would give them roughly 200 active players, and just make that MMR the threshold for the season. I don't know why they're so fixated on 200. It would be fine if it were just in that general ballpark. If 300 people make it to the designated MMR for that season, good for them. Blizzard can just raise the GM MMR for the following season.

That's how I'd do it. GM would at least mean something then.
Bails
Profile Joined June 2011
United States317 Posts
December 27 2011 18:35 GMT
#134
This really sucks for people like me and others that tried pretty hard over the past week to get into GM.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
December 27 2011 18:41 GMT
#135
I got placed in the division last season where all the GM's who got kicked out got simultaneously placed into. People referred to it as the GM graveyard.

I remember at one point, I was rank 36 in the division, which was rank 1 in a majority of other division.... rank 36 in that division was still top 100 overall of all masters.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10834 Posts
December 27 2011 18:54 GMT
#136
On December 28 2011 03:35 Bails wrote:
This really sucks for people like me and others that tried pretty hard over the past week to get into GM.


Agreed. T_T
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Dice17
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
December 27 2011 18:59 GMT
#137
This is messed up there are people that played a low masters player or mid masters player and got into gm...

I think blizzard should just bring back the top 200 list. It may not show the tip top skill but it certainly is closer to that then what this shows
GamaBear #1 Fan! Sen fighting~
nucleo
Profile Joined February 2011
292 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 19:20:32
December 27 2011 19:04 GMT
#138
there are ppl on GM that were below rank 50 Masters last season.
**one guy was 80~ with 200~ points

I know its only stats but... meh

Supert0fu
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States499 Posts
December 27 2011 19:06 GMT
#139
On December 28 2011 03:30 ratzp0li wrote:
combatex didn't get in?

this is silly...


Don't worry he did!
ThE_OsToJiY
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Canada1167 Posts
December 27 2011 19:08 GMT
#140
sigh broken again I should have 2 spots reserved for me :\
@ostojiy
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