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On December 28 2011 03:13 LuckyFool wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 03:08 FT.aCt)Sony wrote:
I dont see why everyone is crying over "GM" status. It is nothing but a symbol, nothing more, nothing less.
You have masters players who que against and play against GM's all the time. But yet they dont get any recognition. Sure they may be no-names, but the ones who end up taking games off those known individuals still are there doing it, despite not having a ridiculous symbol.
Blizzard needs to not lock GM. Honestly they need to have it rotating in and out with a current basis of players. Just have the MMR formula register individuals correctly to differentiate the points between Masters and GM once acquired or lost. The system Blizzard had before GM was actually better than GM. They used to publish a top 200 list once a week with the current top 200, this was a quite up to date and accurate depiction of who the top 200 players in the region were. Now you have a GM league with a bunch of 1-0 or 2-0 kids and a number of other multiple smurf accounts that people play a couple games a week on just to keep the bonus pool down so the account doesn't get kicked out.
Yeah it was also so fun waiting to see if you got in the top 200 for the week. The suspense was always something to keep you playing. I liked that system a lot better.
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On December 28 2011 03:02 Masq wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 03:00 kevinmon wrote:On December 28 2011 02:11 PrinceVegeta wrote:On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:just got gm on 2 accounts  Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in! Thank you Tyler! I am currently high masters and hope to to GM one day. People having multiple accounts in GM makes this a lot harder for the rest of the community who aren't progamers but want to reach the highest level of competition on ladder. Being in GM has nothing to do with the skill of who you play ?? actually it does
Well I think what he means is you can be in masters and you play guys at the top. Not being in GM means as much as being in GM currently. It's like the rest of SC2 league structure, merely for show.
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Can't believe they screwed up GM the exact same way two seasons in a row, you'd think they'd learn to avoid that after the first time.
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Just won a game and got no points and no win added to my record.
Blizzard, how could you screw this up yet again?
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On December 28 2011 04:27 Superiorwolf wrote:
Just won a game and got no points and no win added to my record.
Blizzard, how could you screw this up yet again?
Conan your winrate is so gosu your mmr is too high and broken. Lose more ok?
If this is like last season you have to lose a game for your winrate win/loss ratio to change. Bugged exactly the same as it was at beginning of last season by the sounds of it.
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On December 27 2011 22:02 Zeetox wrote:
Like 6 or 7 guys in NA GM have 'Clash' before their nicks. Is it some new clan?
clash fighting !! :D
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just do top 2k gm and only list top 200 as they ladder .. ~_~
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Unless I absolutely spaced out, I didn't see LiquidRet in GM. The dude is tearing apart the NA ladder right now with a 80-10 record. He's also had a really high ranking NA account for a while now, so I don't see why he should not have gotten in. Unless I just missed him of course, in which case nevermind this post.
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Sent an email about it, hopefully they're still checking email while on vacation =)
Also to put this to rest: you should not be able to get into Grandmaster with only one game played (1-0 or 0-1) because you're not supposed to be able to directly place into that league. You're supposed to get promoted into it through a win only. This means the minimum records should be 1-1 or 2-0.
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On December 28 2011 04:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Sent an email about it, hopefully they're still checking email while on vacation =)
Also to put this to rest: you should not be able to get into Grandmaster with only one game played (1-0 or 0-1) because you're not supposed to be able to directly place into that league. You're supposed to get promoted into it through a win only. This means the minimum records should be 1-1 or 2-0.
also shouldnt the bonus pool qualification to be promoted stuff be lowered? (made harder) IE at its current 90 and under, 90 is currently exaclty 1 week... what if it was like 40 or something to be placed into GM league... Force some activity, besides a 2-0 for a season.
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Haha liquid Ret acc with 80-10 not in Gm
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On December 28 2011 04:53 KiF1rE wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 04:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Sent an email about it, hopefully they're still checking email while on vacation =)
Also to put this to rest: you should not be able to get into Grandmaster with only one game played (1-0 or 0-1) because you're not supposed to be able to directly place into that league. You're supposed to get promoted into it through a win only. This means the minimum records should be 1-1 or 2-0. also shouldnt the bonus pool qualification to be promoted stuff be lowered? (made harder) IE at its current 90 and under, 90 is currently exaclty 1 week... what if it was like 40 or something to be placed into GM league... Force some activity, besides a 2-0 for a season.
Yeah if they're cutting all the requirements by half then it follows that the bonus pool requirement should change to something like 45. I don't know if that's related to the current issues but it wouldn't hurt to change...
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On December 28 2011 05:02 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 04:53 KiF1rE wrote:On December 28 2011 04:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Sent an email about it, hopefully they're still checking email while on vacation =)
Also to put this to rest: you should not be able to get into Grandmaster with only one game played (1-0 or 0-1) because you're not supposed to be able to directly place into that league. You're supposed to get promoted into it through a win only. This means the minimum records should be 1-1 or 2-0. also shouldnt the bonus pool qualification to be promoted stuff be lowered? (made harder) IE at its current 90 and under, 90 is currently exaclty 1 week... what if it was like 40 or something to be placed into GM league... Force some activity, besides a 2-0 for a season. Yeah if they're cutting all the requirements by half then it follows that the bonus pool requirement should change to something like 45. I don't know if that's related to the current issues but it wouldn't hurt to change...
well if you think about it, if gm opens at 90 bp and thats the cut off, isnt the entire server eligible for GM when it lives, whether they have played or not in the past year? that could be causing the issues with the reserve slots.
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Ladder system needs to be changed to a pre war3esque 1.14 AMM system. (Flawless ladder system, only issue with it was smurfing which isn't possible in sc2 (at least nowhere near on a large scale)
If that's not possible then they just need to make GM based solely on MMR.
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On December 28 2011 04:59 Racer wrote:
Haha liquid Ret acc with 80-10 not in Gm
ya saw that, #1 ranked on sc2ranks though. And also the highest win percentage. Such a fucking beast man
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I'm in GM, so there's something wrong.
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rofl basilforskin is in GM? that just shows the power of pure cheese dedication... sad day for sc2
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I'm not getting points for wins anymore either, it only takes points from me for losing now.
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On December 28 2011 05:04 KiF1rE wrote:Show nested quote +On December 28 2011 05:02 Excalibur_Z wrote:On December 28 2011 04:53 KiF1rE wrote:On December 28 2011 04:47 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Sent an email about it, hopefully they're still checking email while on vacation =)
Also to put this to rest: you should not be able to get into Grandmaster with only one game played (1-0 or 0-1) because you're not supposed to be able to directly place into that league. You're supposed to get promoted into it through a win only. This means the minimum records should be 1-1 or 2-0. also shouldnt the bonus pool qualification to be promoted stuff be lowered? (made harder) IE at its current 90 and under, 90 is currently exaclty 1 week... what if it was like 40 or something to be placed into GM league... Force some activity, besides a 2-0 for a season. Yeah if they're cutting all the requirements by half then it follows that the bonus pool requirement should change to something like 45. I don't know if that's related to the current issues but it wouldn't hurt to change... well if you think about it, if gm opens at 90 bp and thats the cut off, isnt the entire server eligible for GM when it lives, whether they have played or not in the past year? that could be causing the issues with the reserve slots.
While that is possible, I think it's probably not very common but it depends on how they do their snapshot. If the MMR cap is 3000 let's say, and after 1 week has elapsed in a new season they say "okay the #200 guy is 2876, that's the entry requirement for this season", you're not going to get that high after 5 placement matches on a new account. The people who were middling Master or Diamond players from last season who had their MMR carry over aren't going to be that high either. The GMs from last season would be, but I don't think they're counted if they haven't played any games in the season so far, so if that's what you're suggesting (#200 spot is artificially pushed lower because all the best players are just waiting for GM to launch before playing) then it's possible, but of course we don't have a lot of visibility there...
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On December 28 2011 05:15 goswser wrote:
I'm not getting points for wins anymore either, it only takes points from me for losing now.
After a loss are the wins calculated out in your overall record/points or no? Last season at the beginning I remember I would win 3 games and get no points but then after losing all the points factored in like usual.
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