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SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
December 27 2011 17:03 GMT
#101
On December 28 2011 01:59 birdkicker wrote:
This is so bullshit... probably should wake up at 7AM next time. Learned my lesson.

Also I didn't get any points for winning -_-


Exactly what happened last season, people that had GM MMR also didn't get points after winning. Just wait until later this week when they kick half the people from GM.
noxn
Profile Joined December 2010
65 Posts
December 27 2011 17:05 GMT
#102
what happened last season? did they kick people and leave the people who were supposed to be in? or did they reset the entire ladder and everyone has to play "placement" again?
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
December 27 2011 17:06 GMT
#103
On December 28 2011 01:51 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 01:32 HenryZ wrote:
On December 28 2011 01:22 HyperionDreamer wrote:
You can never actually create a minimum number of games required to be considered "active", though. By definition if you've played your placement match, the system considers you an active player, and you have a chance to be put in GM. I believe Blizzard said in the creation of the GM League that your bonus pool must stay below 180 (2 weeks inactivity) to still be considered for GM.

To everyone who says it's bugged: Look at Excalibur_Z's league and ladder guide. Your promotion to any league is based on a moving average of your MMR. If you're playing against the top gamers, your MMR is in the range of theirs. As such, you will likely be placed in the same league as them.

0-1 isn't what we should be looking at, we should be looking at the bonus pool accretion of these players who are on the boundary of GM.


It's definitely bugged, there are people who finished last season around 1.1k points. Just wait a day or two for the mass eviction
Also, you need bp of less than 90 not 180 since gm week is only 1 now, not 2

Isn't winning a game when gm released the basic premise of getting promoted?

1. Yes, you are correct. It's 90, not 180.
2. No, promotion to ANY league, whether it's Silver or Grandmaster, is based on a simple moving average of your MMR. This is why your reference to the shown points of any player is invalid, since league promotion is not based on your visible ladder points, it's based on your hidden MMR.

Edit: I obviously could be wrong, but it doesn't make sense to me that simply looking at a player's 0-1 or 1-0 record and their past season ladder points, both of which do not factor in to league promotion at all, can tell us whether Grandmaster is bugged.


Sorry I didn't specify, I mean people who have played atleast 200+ games which depletes bonus pool completely and has a stable mmr (not people who had really high mmr seasons ago, and play <100 games where they get +40 a win and lose few pts a loss to get to 1.1k). I just meant these people who have like low-mid master mmr and got in.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
December 27 2011 17:09 GMT
#104
On December 28 2011 01:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
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On December 27 2011 22:04 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:02 Zeetox wrote:
Like 6 or 7 guys in NA GM have 'Clash' before their nicks. Is it some new clan?

It's a korean clan.

Incorrect. It's a North American team that has a strong Korean roster.

I would know, I work for them.


Legalmind is on Clash?
SyNc`
Profile Joined August 2011
333 Posts
December 27 2011 17:09 GMT
#105
On December 28 2011 02:05 noxn wrote:
what happened last season? did they kick people and leave the people who were supposed to be in? or did they reset the entire ladder and everyone has to play "placement" again?


They kicked about 120 people on the thursday of the same week and let GM fill up again from 70-80 slots.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 27 2011 17:11 GMT
#106
On December 28 2011 02:09 Masq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 01:36 VirgilSC2 wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:04 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:02 Zeetox wrote:
Like 6 or 7 guys in NA GM have 'Clash' before their nicks. Is it some new clan?

It's a korean clan.

Incorrect. It's a North American team that has a strong Korean roster.

I would know, I work for them.


Legalmind is on Clash?

Yes he is.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
NemesysTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1088 Posts
December 27 2011 17:11 GMT
#107
Wouldn't the people who got into the glitched GM lose all their points once they get demoted since basically the people with 800 points have now 200 in GM? or do they give them their points
PrinceVegeta
Profile Joined February 2011
United States118 Posts
December 27 2011 17:11 GMT
#108
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
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On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!


Thank you Tyler! I am currently high masters and hope to to GM one day. People having multiple accounts in GM makes this a lot harder for the rest of the community who aren't progamers but want to reach the highest level of competition on ladder.
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
December 27 2011 17:12 GMT
#109
On December 28 2011 02:11 NemesysTV wrote:
Wouldn't the people who got into the glitched GM lose all their points once they get demoted since basically the people with 800 points have now 200 in GM? or do they give them their points


Last season people who had ~800 pts in master league and got kicked out had about 100-200
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
December 27 2011 17:12 GMT
#110
On December 28 2011 02:11 NemesysTV wrote:
Wouldn't the people who got into the glitched GM lose all their points once they get demoted since basically the people with 800 points have now 200 in GM? or do they give them their points


if I remember correctly, i lost about 300 pts from the demotion from GM to masters last season. (for example, if you had 600 pts and you do not make a cut to the real GM you will get sent back to masters with 300 less pts) LOL
FluXen
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada210 Posts
December 27 2011 17:13 GMT
#111
How did deezer make it in with a 3-10?
"Rise and Rise Again till Lamb become Lion"-Robin Hood
kurrysauce
Profile Joined October 2010
272 Posts
December 27 2011 17:13 GMT
#112
They should rework the requirements to get into GM imo , like a certain amount of MMR is required to even qualify for GM or something. The way it is right now is just plain stupid. GM , the way it is right now is pointless , like many pros have said.
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
December 27 2011 17:19 GMT
#113
its glitched again so I don't see why people give 2 shits about whose in it....it filled up too fast, before I even woke up. A bunch of the people who placed highly in grandmasters last season aren't even in it. For example I don't think I see ostojiy on there and hes always top 10 grandmasters.
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Jathin
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3505 Posts
December 27 2011 17:35 GMT
#114
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Tiazi
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands761 Posts
December 27 2011 17:44 GMT
#115
If ret is not in GM than its definitly bugged. He was like 70-2 yesterday on his stream.

He also had over 1000 points already!

youre not gonna tell me thats not enough to get in GM lol
"A brilliant yet deluded man once said, 'Introduce a little anarchy. Upset the established order, and everything becomes chaos.' Gumiho is that agent of chaos." -monk
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
December 27 2011 17:45 GMT
#116
Regardless if it's bugged or not, I think all this confusion stems from bad system to begin with.

They should just hold an online tournament or something for qualifying for GM seasons.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 27 2011 17:48 GMT
#117
Yeah it's broken again. Thought blizzard fixed it after last season but apparently its still screwed.

This is so dumb...Also to anyone who willing tries to place multiple accounts in GM, not helping...It's honestly utterly retarded to try and get a smurf into GM when there are only a limited amount of spaces and many people trying for it.
Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
December 27 2011 17:50 GMT
#118
On December 28 2011 02:44 Tiazi wrote:
If ret is not in GM than its definitly bugged. He was like 70-2 yesterday on his stream.

He also had over 1000 points already!

youre not gonna tell me thats not enough to get in GM lol

this is blizzard math we're talking here! forget what you learned in school!
"God fights on the side with the best artillery." - Napoleon Bonaparte
PhiliBiRD
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2643 Posts
December 27 2011 17:51 GMT
#119
regardless if its glitched or not

GM itself is broken. it's a horrible idea for a top of ladder rank
magnaflow
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1521 Posts
December 27 2011 17:54 GMT
#120
On December 28 2011 02:51 PhiliBiRD wrote:
regardless if its glitched or not

GM itself is broken. it's a horrible idea for a top of ladder rank


Completely agree with this. Like some said earlier it should be rolling type of thing that is updated weekly or something
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