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darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
December 27 2011 16:18 GMT
#81
Ruff as #1. Wish that was a bug. >_<
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 27 2011 16:21 GMT
#82
On December 28 2011 01:06 Boyo wrote:
I don't think this screw up is as bad as last season since there are some notable names in there but I still dont see a lot of players. Hopefully it wasnt top 200 pts first come first serve again as it was last season, although that system would explain why lots of GM's who would have been GM's woke up early to play their placements and get in. I did the same thing this morning and got in, (was rank 38 GM last season), but it still feels meh considering not all of the "top" players are in.

I agree, there are a lot more players that deserve to be there than last season's fuckup
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
December 27 2011 16:22 GMT
#83
On December 28 2011 00:31 Catatonic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2011 22:19 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 22:17 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:14 tQDanTe wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:10 SpecialistSc wrote:
GM glitched out and means nothing again.

Expect reset in 1 week


How exactly did it glitch out you got any supporting evidence/resource?

p.s I got in GM woot

People with 0-1 records are not supposed to get in.


Yes they are, its all about the MMR not about the stat.

Though a requirement for GM was to be active :l 0-1 shows the opposite of being active

You can never actually create a minimum number of games required to be considered "active", though. By definition if you've played your placement match, the system considers you an active player, and you have a chance to be put in GM. I believe Blizzard said in the creation of the GM League that your bonus pool must stay below 180 (2 weeks inactivity) to still be considered for GM.

To everyone who says it's bugged: Look at Excalibur_Z's league and ladder guide. Your promotion to any league is based on a moving average of your MMR. If you're playing against the top gamers, your MMR is in the range of theirs. As such, you will likely be placed in the same league as them.

0-1 isn't what we should be looking at, we should be looking at the bonus pool accretion of these players who are on the boundary of GM.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
December 27 2011 16:24 GMT
#84
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
Treva
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States533 Posts
December 27 2011 16:27 GMT
#85
On December 27 2011 22:17 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 22:14 tQDanTe wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:10 SpecialistSc wrote:
GM glitched out and means nothing again.

Expect reset in 1 week


How exactly did it glitch out you got any supporting evidence/resource?

p.s I got in GM woot

People with 0-1 records are not supposed to get in.

You cannot possibly be serious..
Live it up.
jojoleb
Profile Joined April 2010
Lebanon180 Posts
December 27 2011 16:31 GMT
#86
have you guys seen this guy ? he already has 4,000 games played !! on CN((chinese) server !
that INSANE !!

http://www.sc2ranks.com/cn/1474546/LostsKyDeity

INSAAAANE !!
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
December 27 2011 16:32 GMT
#87
On December 28 2011 01:22 HyperionDreamer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 00:31 Catatonic wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 27 2011 22:19 Darksoldierr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 22:17 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:14 tQDanTe wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:10 SpecialistSc wrote:
GM glitched out and means nothing again.

Expect reset in 1 week


How exactly did it glitch out you got any supporting evidence/resource?

p.s I got in GM woot

People with 0-1 records are not supposed to get in.


Yes they are, its all about the MMR not about the stat.

Though a requirement for GM was to be active :l 0-1 shows the opposite of being active

You can never actually create a minimum number of games required to be considered "active", though. By definition if you've played your placement match, the system considers you an active player, and you have a chance to be put in GM. I believe Blizzard said in the creation of the GM League that your bonus pool must stay below 180 (2 weeks inactivity) to still be considered for GM.

To everyone who says it's bugged: Look at Excalibur_Z's league and ladder guide. Your promotion to any league is based on a moving average of your MMR. If you're playing against the top gamers, your MMR is in the range of theirs. As such, you will likely be placed in the same league as them.

0-1 isn't what we should be looking at, we should be looking at the bonus pool accretion of these players who are on the boundary of GM.


It's definitely bugged, there are people who finished last season around 1.1k points. Just wait a day or two for the mass eviction
Also, you need bp of less than 90 not 180 since gm week is only 1 now, not 2

On December 28 2011 01:27 Treva wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 22:17 T.O.P. wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:14 tQDanTe wrote:
On December 27 2011 22:10 SpecialistSc wrote:
GM glitched out and means nothing again.

Expect reset in 1 week


How exactly did it glitch out you got any supporting evidence/resource?

p.s I got in GM woot

People with 0-1 records are not supposed to get in.

You cannot possibly be serious..


Isn't winning a game when gm released the basic premise of getting promoted?
Shortizz
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore129 Posts
December 27 2011 16:34 GMT
#88
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!


Exactly, ppl need to stop getting multiple accounts into GMs just for the sake of it. Sooner or later the top 200 MMR GM would become top 100 cos so many ppl have multiple accounts in it.

Respect for not getting your other accounts into GM tyler.
Jombozeus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
China1014 Posts
December 27 2011 16:34 GMT
#89
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!


I would say the top 200 MMR on NA is currently inhabited by 50% normal players, 20% double/triple accounts and 30% by koreans.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
December 27 2011 16:36 GMT
#90
On December 27 2011 22:04 T.O.P. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2011 22:02 Zeetox wrote:
Like 6 or 7 guys in NA GM have 'Clash' before their nicks. Is it some new clan?

It's a korean clan.

Incorrect. It's a North American team that has a strong Korean roster.

I would know, I work for them.
Clarity Gaming #1 Fan | Avid MTG Grinder | @VirgilSC2
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
December 27 2011 16:40 GMT
#91
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!

I have worked really hard, and if it was glitched i was unaware at the time
ROOTIllusion
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1060 Posts
December 27 2011 16:42 GMT
#92
On December 28 2011 01:24 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 00:25 VPCursed wrote:
just got gm on 2 accounts

Not on purpose I hope? I could get GM on 3 accounts but I know some people work really hard to try to get into GM... NA being glitched is bad enough without people shoving multiple accounts in!

Good guy Tyler

GM is actually filling up really fast... I think it could be a bug
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Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
December 27 2011 16:43 GMT
#93
Also, blizzard never gave apology for blindly kicking people out of GM with several hundreds of pts lost into the masters division.

Will that happen again? Most likely. But I sure do hope they at least acknowledge their mistake and fix it next season.
Hummingb1rd
Profile Joined December 2010
United States97 Posts
December 27 2011 16:44 GMT
#94
197 people as of 11:44 EST... 12/27/11
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
December 27 2011 16:46 GMT
#95
On December 28 2011 01:43 SpecialistSc wrote:
Also, blizzard never gave apology for blindly kicking people out of GM with several hundreds of pts lost into the masters division.

Will that happen again? Most likely. But I sure do hope they at least acknowledge their mistake and fix it next season.

Blizzard never managed to give out Arena rewards in WoW properly(without resets and shit) during any of the 8 seasons I played in, so don't get your hopes too high.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
December 27 2011 16:51 GMT
#96
On December 28 2011 01:31 jojoleb wrote:
have you guys seen this guy ? he already has 4,000 games played !! on CN((chinese) server !
that INSANE !!

http://www.sc2ranks.com/cn/1474546/LostsKyDeity

INSAAAANE !!


It's called a hacker or a bug.
There is no possible scenario for playing 4k games in 24 hours .
HyperionDreamer
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Canada1528 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 16:53:19
December 27 2011 16:51 GMT
#97
On December 28 2011 01:32 HenryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2011 01:22 HyperionDreamer wrote:
You can never actually create a minimum number of games required to be considered "active", though. By definition if you've played your placement match, the system considers you an active player, and you have a chance to be put in GM. I believe Blizzard said in the creation of the GM League that your bonus pool must stay below 180 (2 weeks inactivity) to still be considered for GM.

To everyone who says it's bugged: Look at Excalibur_Z's league and ladder guide. Your promotion to any league is based on a moving average of your MMR. If you're playing against the top gamers, your MMR is in the range of theirs. As such, you will likely be placed in the same league as them.

0-1 isn't what we should be looking at, we should be looking at the bonus pool accretion of these players who are on the boundary of GM.


It's definitely bugged, there are people who finished last season around 1.1k points. Just wait a day or two for the mass eviction
Also, you need bp of less than 90 not 180 since gm week is only 1 now, not 2

Isn't winning a game when gm released the basic premise of getting promoted?

1. Yes, you are correct. It's 90, not 180.
2. No, promotion to ANY league, whether it's Silver or Grandmaster, is based on a simple moving average of your MMR. This is why your reference to the shown points of any player is invalid, since league promotion is not based on your visible ladder points, it's based on your hidden MMR.

Edit: I obviously could be wrong, but it doesn't make sense to me that simply looking at a player's 0-1 or 1-0 record and their past season ladder points, both of which do not factor in to league promotion at all, can tell us whether Grandmaster is bugged.
BW4life! Jaedong ~ Savior ~ Shine ; "drowning sorrows in late night infomercials" - bnYsooch
Hummingb1rd
Profile Joined December 2010
United States97 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 16:54:11
December 27 2011 16:53 GMT
#98
11:53 AM EST 12/27/11, NA GM FULL 200/200!

Verdict: Glitched.

Reasoning: Many people who have <90 bonus pool and were on the top of the ladder last season are not in.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 16:58:09
December 27 2011 16:57 GMT
#99
#13 on chinese gm ladder "我家的狗会玩人族" trolololololol best sc2 name ever "my family's dog can play terran"
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-27 17:00:38
December 27 2011 16:59 GMT
#100
This is so bullshit... probably should wake up at 7AM next time. Learned my lesson.

Also I didn't get any points for winning -_-
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