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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
December 28 2011 04:24 GMT
#181
On December 28 2011 12:55 Excalibur_Z wrote:
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On December 28 2011 12:42 ThomasHobbes wrote:
On December 28 2011 08:36 Garth wrote:
for everyone whos being retarded on the first page, regardless of MMR people who are 0-1 don't have the bonus pool requirements to get in to GM. so shut up.


Bonus pool restarts with each new season... no? I don't see what you're saying here.


GM league unlocks 1 week after the start of a new season, 1 week = 90 bonus pool, 90 bonus pool or less is required to get into GM league, it takes a win to use up bonus pool. Therefore no 0-1 players should ever be able to get in for that reason alone, but in addition to that, a win is supposed to be required for a promotion.


you also dont spend bonus pool on a win for a placement game... so the 1-0 players should be there either.
justincover
Profile Joined August 2011
United States37 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 18:48:33
December 28 2011 18:46 GMT
#182
i have a few question. does the top 100 in sc2rank make it for gm week?...i'm top 51 right now..but i know is bug. i wanna know if i will be promote it once they fix it. and what happen if u lose your placement match, do you get a 2nd chance?
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
December 28 2011 18:51 GMT
#183
no top 100 means nothing, its completely based on MMR
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SoraLimit
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada747 Posts
December 28 2011 18:53 GMT
#184
On December 29 2011 03:46 justincover wrote:
i have a few question. does the top 100 in sc2rank make it for gm week?...i'm top 51 right now..but i know is bug. i wanna know if i will be promote it once they fix it. and what happen if u lose your placement match, do you get a 2nd chance?

As far as I know, SC2ranks is based on points. The GM is based on MMR, so it might not correlate even if you were in the top 51 based on points.

As far as placement matches go, as long as your MMR is high enough, I don't think losing it matters. Even if you didn't make it, then you can still get in, if someone from GM gets demoted and your MMR was high enough to replace him.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
December 28 2011 19:12 GMT
#185
Has anyone else reported this issue directly (as in, not via forums or email)? I sent an email but my contacts may be on vacation this week. I know some high level players in this thread have direct contact in-game with David Kim for example. I don't mean to flood the poor guy with reports but the sooner this information gets to someone who's actually in the office who can do something about it, the better.
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 28 2011 19:14 GMT
#186
On December 29 2011 04:12 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Has anyone else reported this issue directly (as in, not via forums or email)? I sent an email but my contacts may be on vacation this week. I know some high level players in this thread have direct contact in-game with David Kim for example. I don't mean to flood the poor guy with reports but the sooner this information gets to someone who's actually in the office who can do something about it, the better.


i tried, but no response so far. Seems like NA is just the guinea pig server for testing and mistakes to be made on this stuff never happened on korea server as far as i know
JD, need I say more? :D
justincover
Profile Joined August 2011
United States37 Posts
December 28 2011 19:14 GMT
#187
On December 29 2011 03:53 SoraLimit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 03:46 justincover wrote:
i have a few question. does the top 100 in sc2rank make it for gm week?...i'm top 51 right now..but i know is bug. i wanna know if i will be promote it once they fix it. and what happen if u lose your placement match, do you get a 2nd chance?

As far as I know, SC2ranks is based on points. The GM is based on MMR, so it might not correlate even if you were in the top 51 based on points.

As far as placement matches go, as long as your MMR is high enough, I don't think losing it matters. Even if you didn't make it, then you can still get in, if someone from GM gets demoted and your MMR was high enough to replace him.


is there a way to check your mmr?.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 19:16:47
December 28 2011 19:15 GMT
#188
On December 29 2011 03:46 justincover wrote:
i have a few question. does the top 100 in sc2rank make it for gm week?...i'm top 51 right now..but i know is bug. i wanna know if i will be promote it once they fix it. and what happen if u lose your placement match, do you get a 2nd chance?


points mean nothing especially if u r spamming games and just getting a lot of points for beating mediocre people. If you are getting a lot of points beating better players then ur mmr will be higher


also still none of my points are updating reported this no response. I have like 4 more wins then it shows on my ladder and like 100ish more points
JD, need I say more? :D
ChrysaliS_
Profile Joined January 2011
United States261 Posts
December 28 2011 19:17 GMT
#189
On December 29 2011 04:15 BloodThirsty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 03:46 justincover wrote:
i have a few question. does the top 100 in sc2rank make it for gm week?...i'm top 51 right now..but i know is bug. i wanna know if i will be promote it once they fix it. and what happen if u lose your placement match, do you get a 2nd chance?


points mean nothing especially if u r spamming games and just getting a lot of points for beating mediocre people. If you are getting a lot of points beating better players then ur mmr will be higher


also still none of my points are updating reported this no response. I have like 4 more wins then it shows on my ladder and like 100ish more points


That isn't true at all, points converge with MMR in the long run. There are exceptions of course but in general points are a pretty good indicator of your overall standing.
Chrysalis.145
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 19:18:37
December 28 2011 19:18 GMT
#190
On December 29 2011 04:15 BloodThirsty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 03:46 justincover wrote:
i have a few question. does the top 100 in sc2rank make it for gm week?...i'm top 51 right now..but i know is bug. i wanna know if i will be promote it once they fix it. and what happen if u lose your placement match, do you get a 2nd chance?


points mean nothing especially if u r spamming games and just getting a lot of points for beating mediocre people. If you are getting a lot of points beating better players then ur mmr will be higher


also still none of my points are updating reported this no response. I have like 4 more wins then it shows on my ladder and like 100ish more points



yeah i think thats because we were supposed to get into gm this season

Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 28 2011 19:21 GMT
#191
On December 29 2011 04:17 ChrysaliS_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 04:15 BloodThirsty wrote:
On December 29 2011 03:46 justincover wrote:
i have a few question. does the top 100 in sc2rank make it for gm week?...i'm top 51 right now..but i know is bug. i wanna know if i will be promote it once they fix it. and what happen if u lose your placement match, do you get a 2nd chance?


points mean nothing especially if u r spamming games and just getting a lot of points for beating mediocre people. If you are getting a lot of points beating better players then ur mmr will be higher


also still none of my points are updating reported this no response. I have like 4 more wins then it shows on my ladder and like 100ish more points


That isn't true at all, points converge with MMR in the long run. There are exceptions of course but in general points are a pretty good indicator of your overall standing.


well yea but we arent in the long run atm lol no one's mmr to point ratios are really balanced out yet especially top tier players that arent playing atm cuz they arent getting any wins or points toward their records
JD, need I say more? :D
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
December 28 2011 19:22 GMT
#192
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
justincover
Profile Joined August 2011
United States37 Posts
December 28 2011 19:25 GMT
#193
cause i think is really unfair if is base on mmr because if is like that then there is really no point for gm week where people (warriors) fight their way to top 200 in ranking. and people with max mmr could just not play for gm week. and just wait for the 1 placement game and get promote it.?. if is like that then is really unfair.
Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 19:32:38
December 28 2011 19:31 GMT
#194
its not really unfair because the others simply arent better

idc if you play more than me @ mid masters, youre still not better than me. top 200 players is supposed to be the top 200, not top 200 active players.

the old top 200 lists (from before gm) were entirely based and ranked on mmr, not points.

not like it really matters for NA and such as there aren't even 200 players that are considered good on our servers.
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 28 2011 19:32 GMT
#195
On December 29 2011 04:25 justincover wrote:
cause i think is really unfair if is base on mmr because if is like that then there is really no point for gm week where people (warriors) fight their way to top 200 in ranking. and people with max mmr could just not play for gm week. and just wait for the 1 placement game and get promote it.?. if is like that then is really unfair.


umm its not unfair at all lol if u dont like it then dont mass game and get better
JD, need I say more? :D
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
December 28 2011 19:33 GMT
#196
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


took like a week or so and they booted about 140-150 people
JD, need I say more? :D
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
December 28 2011 19:42 GMT
#197
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


i remember it was exactly 1 week after...

I woke up and i was in masters

blizzard didn't say nutting about it tho, and i was sad =(
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7324 Posts
December 28 2011 19:44 GMT
#198
On December 29 2011 04:31 Let it Raine wrote:
its not really unfair because the others simply arent better

idc if you play more than me @ mid masters, youre still not better than me. top 200 players is supposed to be the top 200, not top 200 active players.

the old top 200 lists (from before gm) were entirely based and ranked on mmr, not points.

not like it really matters for NA and such as there aren't even 200 players that are considered good on our servers.



This isnt true at all.

it WAS based on points.

each division had a point modifier. This whole arguement is stupid. GM isnt based on MMR once you get into it anyway, its based on points, so why the fuck is getting into GM different than the ladder when you get there?

Its a joke.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
justincover
Profile Joined August 2011
United States37 Posts
December 28 2011 19:54 GMT
#199
for all those that that think is base on mmr? ok here is the question. WHat is points for?..just for show?. and dont say u can just 6 pool and cheese your way just to get points to master league.
Klondikebar
Profile Joined October 2011
United States2227 Posts
December 28 2011 19:55 GMT
#200
On December 29 2011 04:54 justincover wrote:
for all those that that think is base on mmr? ok here is the question. WHat is points for?..just for show?. and dont say u can just 6 pool and cheese your way just to get points to master league.


Yes points are just for show. They are designed to make each and every person feel like they are a special player.
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