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On January 02 2012 03:38 Recognizable wrote:Show nested quote +On December 29 2011 04:55 Klondikebar wrote:On December 29 2011 04:54 justincover wrote: for all those that that think is base on mmr? ok here is the question. WHat is points for?..just for show?. and dont say u can just 6 pool and cheese your way just to get points to master league. Yes points are just for show. They are designed to make each and every person feel like they are a special player. No, points correlate strongly with your MMR
Not necessarily...
A toy example (this uses bonus pool for simplicity, but you can do it other ways):
Play 1 game, win, +12 point +12 bonus = + 24 Play 2 games, lose both, -10 points -11 point = -21
Points go up, MMR goes down - anti-correlation.
There have been many posts elsewhere on TL about how poorly points reflect MMR. This is why you can have a Bronze player with a massive number of points, but without breaking the MMR threshold for promotion.
edit: lol, very similar post right above me saying the same thing while I typed this up ^^;;
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But the bonus pool is for everyone so it doesn't give you any advantage over other players, so you aren't anymore ahead in rank by winning 1 and losing 2 than the next guy unless he doesnt actually play. And usually if you're within Top 8 of your (division which is determined by points) you are pretty close to promotion, so I wouldn't say its too far off.
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points reflect mmr in the long run that is all
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does anybody know if GM is going to reset any time soon? I want to be in legit GM not in glitchy one =(
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I thought I was getting good when I was getting matched up with so many GMs
So is there still going to be a reset or something?
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When are they going to fix the ladder & GM... Still messed up big time. Win/loss and points not registering correctly for high masters, and still people with 0-1 in GM
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is the 90point bp cap for NA GM only or does it apply to all the ladders?? apparently there are tons of ppl on SEA GM that has accumulated bp of more than 100
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You need less than 90 bp to be able to get promoted to GM. Then you get booted out of GM if you accumulate 2 weeks worth of Bonus pts... 180 i believe? not sure on the number
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On January 02 2012 17:50 reconcrap wrote: is the 90point bp cap for NA GM only or does it apply to all the ladders?? apparently there are tons of ppl on SEA GM that has accumulated bp of more than 100
Not sure exactly what you're referring to but the rules regarding GM league are supposed to be <=90 bonus pool to get in and <=180 bonus pool to stay in.
Also it's not even business hours on Monday yet so the devs probably are back from vacation either today or tomorrow.
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On January 02 2012 17:56 Excalibur_Z wrote:Show nested quote +On January 02 2012 17:50 reconcrap wrote: is the 90point bp cap for NA GM only or does it apply to all the ladders?? apparently there are tons of ppl on SEA GM that has accumulated bp of more than 100 Not sure exactly what you're referring to but the rules regarding GM league are supposed to be <=90 bonus pool to get in and <=180 bonus pool to stay in. Also it's not even business hours on Monday yet so the devs probably are back from vacation either today or tomorrow.
even then what can they do now? on tuesday most of the 1-0 or 0-1's are going to be kicked by the system, assuming that works.
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Yeah the system will "fix itself" tommorow i think from bonus pool
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On January 02 2012 04:30 Apollo324 wrote: Play 1 game, win, +12 point +12 bonus = + 24 Play 2 games, lose both, -10 points -11 point = -21
Points go up, MMR goes down - anti-correlation.
Points correlate strongly with MMR when you exclude bonus points (as you can among players who have used all of their bonus points.)
In your example, points go down by 10 if you exclude bonus points.
Also, your example ignores the fact that the points you gain or lose are more or less depending on the relationship between your point score and your opponent's MMR. This is the factor that ensures a strong correlation between adjusted points (meaning not including bonus) and MMR.
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180 b.p. and ppl are still in the league..
this is definitely wrong so hopefully blizzard will take a look soon
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Yea they are at 182 and still in league, i also started NEVER gettin points when i win, only get all the points fixed once i lose. Im guessing its because i hit GM mmr, as im always facing very very high mmr players.
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GM is such an utter disaster...
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On January 04 2012 01:39 Pokebunny wrote: GM is such an utter disaster...
Everything but the game (to an extent) is an utter disaster.
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yeah there are about 7 people with BP above 180 that didn't get kicked TT. Blizzard needs to step up there game <_>
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Oh wow, it's still broken? Blizzard is really embarrassing themselves here :\
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On January 04 2012 03:51 Dusty wrote: Oh wow, it's still broken? Blizzard is really embarrassing themselves here :\ Unfortunately they probably don't care
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On January 04 2012 04:32 Superiorwolf wrote:Show nested quote +On January 04 2012 03:51 Dusty wrote: Oh wow, it's still broken? Blizzard is really embarrassing themselves here :\ Unfortunately they probably don't care I think they probably do, but for whatever reason haven't managed to fix it yet. Everyone can see the GM ladder pretty easily, so it's sort of embarassing for them. Is this problem on the KR server as well?
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