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Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
December 28 2011 19:58 GMT
#201
On December 29 2011 04:54 justincover wrote:
for all those that that think is base on mmr? ok here is the question. WHat is points for?..just for show?. and dont say u can just 6 pool and cheese your way just to get points to master league.


Points show how good you are compared to other players in your division (and in Master/Grandmaster, your league), as long as your bonus pool is low and the bonus pools of your peers are low. That's it.
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coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
December 28 2011 20:04 GMT
#202
On December 29 2011 04:33 BloodThirsty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


took like a week or so and they booted about 140-150 people


On December 29 2011 04:42 SpecialistSc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


i remember it was exactly 1 week after...

I woke up and i was in masters

blizzard didn't say nutting about it tho, and i was sad =(



Are you guys sure I thought it was 2 days (Thursday of same week)
birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
December 28 2011 20:10 GMT
#203
On December 29 2011 05:04 HenryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 04:33 BloodThirsty wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


took like a week or so and they booted about 140-150 people


Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 04:42 SpecialistSc wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


i remember it was exactly 1 week after...

I woke up and i was in masters

blizzard didn't say nutting about it tho, and i was sad =(



Are you guys sure I thought it was 2 days (Thursday of same week)


It was Thursday of the same week... these guys just don't know what they are talking about.
CuHz
Profile Joined January 2011
United States354 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 21:25:40
December 28 2011 21:25 GMT
#204
On December 29 2011 05:10 birdkicker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 05:04 HenryZ wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:33 BloodThirsty wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


took like a week or so and they booted about 140-150 people


On December 29 2011 04:42 SpecialistSc wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


i remember it was exactly 1 week after...

I woke up and i was in masters

blizzard didn't say nutting about it tho, and i was sad =(



Are you guys sure I thought it was 2 days (Thursday of same week)


It was Thursday of the same week... these guys just don't know what they are talking about.



yeah; only because a billion ppl QQ'd on blizzard forums; lol; unforunately most of them ended up not being able to reach GM anyways.

but we need to start taht QQ thread again so blizzard can fix the GM thing
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hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-28 21:32:24
December 28 2011 21:28 GMT
#205
On December 29 2011 06:25 CuHz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 05:10 birdkicker wrote:
On December 29 2011 05:04 HenryZ wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:33 BloodThirsty wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


took like a week or so and they booted about 140-150 people


On December 29 2011 04:42 SpecialistSc wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:22 Let it Raine wrote:
does anyone remember how long it took to boot the noobs out last season


i remember it was exactly 1 week after...

I woke up and i was in masters

blizzard didn't say nutting about it tho, and i was sad =(



Are you guys sure I thought it was 2 days (Thursday of same week)


It was Thursday of the same week... these guys just don't know what they are talking about.



yeah; only because a billion ppl QQ'd on blizzard forums; lol; unforunately most of them ended up not being able to reach GM anyways.

but we need to start taht QQ thread again so blizzard can fix the GM thing


I made a thread on behalf of everyone who deserves to be in GM and isn't (I'm like mid masters so I'm nowhere near, but I want the people who do deserve to be there to be there) and noone replied to it, I bumped it annd got the usual bullshit of the retards that use b.net forums of "we don't care we're all bronze." I have a bad feeling that this time it's gonna take a lot more than 2 days to fix it, since I'm sure most of blizzard is on winter break right now and noone would want to go and have to fix this again.

Edit: Please be careful, anyone who is bold enough to venture into the battle.net forums. You may wish to avert your eyes, and not stray to any non GM related topics, as the stupidity of the posts on those forums may give you brain damage.
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
January 01 2012 18:13 GMT
#206
well i guess it's official. blizz doesn't give 2 shits about fixing na ladder. took a whole week the first time to reset it and it looks like they're set on that precedent.
get rich or die mining
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SniXSniPe
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1938 Posts
January 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#207
On January 02 2012 03:13 Alejandrisha wrote:
well i guess it's official. blizz doesn't give 2 shits about fixing na ladder. took a whole week the first time to reset it and it looks like they're set on that precedent.



Dude calm down, GM isn't the end of the world. I wanted it too, and unfortunately came home and it was already full, but I'll survive.

It seems some of you didn't read the post how Blizzard is on winter holiday right now and will be back to work starting this first week of January.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
January 01 2012 18:21 GMT
#208
Haha, people still care about being in GM league?
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
January 01 2012 18:22 GMT
#209
i don't know why any1 acknowledges GM. its a joke. it will always be a joke. It isn't instantaneous, it is based off the 200 players at the beginning of the season. Imagine that the ladder is "the big bang" where the universe was created. Now imagine that we could go back to the big bang and measure [X amount of seconds] everything the universe was like at this point in time. Then we imagined this was the universe we lived in and it wasn't. Thanks like GM. Its like accepting something that isn't true.

TLDR; GM is based off top 200 players at one point in time, why should anyone even recognize it as a measure of skill?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
January 01 2012 18:25 GMT
#210
On January 02 2012 03:22 BroboCop wrote:
i don't know why any1 acknowledges GM. its a joke. it will always be a joke. It isn't instantaneous, it is based off the 200 players at the beginning of the season. Imagine that the ladder is "the big bang" where the universe was created. Now imagine that we could go back to the big bang and measure [X amount of seconds] everything the universe was like at this point in time. Then we imagined this was the universe we lived in and it wasn't. Thanks like GM. Its like accepting something that isn't true.

TLDR; GM is based off top 200 players at one point in time, why should anyone even recognize it as a measure of skill?

Because Blizzard said so.


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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
January 01 2012 18:26 GMT
#211
On January 02 2012 03:21 bubblegumbo wrote:
Haha, people still care about being in GM league?

well the only reason i care about ladder getting fixed is that it won't even let me place in any league right now. i don't need a shiny badge i would just like to get points for ladder and have a moving mmr at the moment
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 01 2012 18:32 GMT
#212
ladder will never be an accurate way to tell who the best players are anyway, so what's the point in even arguing about GM not being representative of the best 200 players?

GM is the best 200 ladder players - think of it that way and u'll be able to sleep at night :D
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
January 01 2012 18:34 GMT
#213
Some issues lie in how some Blizzard tournament invites are done. In past they've invited players from the top of the ladder. This is possibly an issue if they only consider GM players. Possibly.
Kaitokid
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-01 18:37:04
January 01 2012 18:36 GMT
#214
The GM league is more accurate than people claim and I'm pretty sure they know it but it just makes them feel better about themself saying "being GM means nothing". If a good player spams laddergames he will be GM sooner or later... Of course you can't compare two players and say this one is better because he is GM but come on we all know that the really good players will reach GM anyway if they want to and its extremely easy for them...
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
January 01 2012 18:38 GMT
#215
On December 29 2011 04:55 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 04:54 justincover wrote:
for all those that that think is base on mmr? ok here is the question. WHat is points for?..just for show?. and dont say u can just 6 pool and cheese your way just to get points to master league.


Yes points are just for show. They are designed to make each and every person feel like they are a special player.


No, points correlate strongly with your MMR
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
January 01 2012 18:41 GMT
#216
On January 02 2012 03:34 Jarvs wrote:
Some issues lie in how some Blizzard tournament invites are done. In past they've invited players from the top of the ladder. This is possibly an issue if they only consider GM players. Possibly.


this won't be an issue in the future, promise
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
January 01 2012 18:42 GMT
#217
On January 02 2012 03:41 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 02 2012 03:34 Jarvs wrote:
Some issues lie in how some Blizzard tournament invites are done. In past they've invited players from the top of the ladder. This is possibly an issue if they only consider GM players. Possibly.


this won't be an issue in the future, promise

you heard it here, folks. xeris has joined the committee to inform the blizzard invitational staff and will be handpicking the players and running the tournament :D
get rich or die mining
TL+ Member
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
January 01 2012 18:52 GMT
#218
yeah of course he will do that
xeris is a boss so he will manage that

and i think that gm matters quite a bit to those players who want to get really good and want to get picked up by a good team and im sure it will mean a lot to them (and possibly the teams that pick them up) if they are gm or not
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
drgoats
Profile Joined March 2010
United States310 Posts
January 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#219
On January 02 2012 03:21 bubblegumbo wrote:
Haha, people still care about being in GM league?


There are many people out there who rose from the depths of the ladder to GM through hard work and dedication. I am pretty sure those people care. Hell, when I hit diamond I was proud. Some of us realize that being the best in the world is not the ultimate goal in this game; setting a realistic goal and achieving it is something to care about.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
January 01 2012 19:25 GMT
#220
On January 02 2012 03:38 Recognizable wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2011 04:55 Klondikebar wrote:
On December 29 2011 04:54 justincover wrote:
for all those that that think is base on mmr? ok here is the question. WHat is points for?..just for show?. and dont say u can just 6 pool and cheese your way just to get points to master league.


Yes points are just for show. They are designed to make each and every person feel like they are a special player.


No, points correlate strongly with your MMR

Not really. The presence of the bonus pool screws it all to hell. If there were no bonus pool, players with, say, more than 100 points would be high in their division looking at a promotion, because they have significantly more wins than losses/their wins are giving them more points than their losses are reducing. People with negative scores would be looking at demotion, and players around 0 would be right where they should be. Of course, this makes noobs cry when their points are below 0. Whatever.
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