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rna
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States41 Posts
January 03 2012 19:41 GMT
#241
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I submitted a ticket asking them what's up, this was their answer. Kind of vague, no? They were supposed to patch today anyway right?
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
January 03 2012 19:45 GMT
#242
On January 04 2012 04:41 rna wrote:
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I submitted a ticket asking them what's up, this was their answer. Kind of vague, no? They were supposed to patch today anyway right?

blizzard vague? no fucking way.
they don't care, and the model for GM (even if it wasn't broken like it is now) is clearly flawed. although rotating every 2months is better than every 4 like before it is still not an indicator of the "best" players at any given time.

i am curious to see if they actually do anything though.
ToXSiK
Profile Joined November 2010
United States83 Posts
January 03 2012 19:55 GMT
#243
184 Bonus pool now. This is pretty pathetic -.-
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:07:13
January 03 2012 20:01 GMT
#244
fine fine fine, im just pissed about how its been 2 weeks and even on the bnet forums they havent answered anything
JD, need I say more? :D
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-03 20:04:22
January 03 2012 20:03 GMT
#245
On January 04 2012 05:01 BloodThirsty wrote:
they arent going to do s**t im sorry for cursing but i called and they sound like they dont even know about it. They just keep trying to redirect me to someone who may know something but they still busy stuffing their noses with all the money they are getting from wow. Seriously this is really disappointing in blizzard. All it is doing is just making Sc2 NA league a bigger joke then it has been already. There are people in GM who barely are able to make it into masters league to begin with. Most NA players are playing on different servers at the top because its so pathetic how blizzard just doesn't give a s**t at all


I just want to state customer support won't know about this most likely. They aren't developers they didn't develop the games they are literally just doing customer support. It just bugs me you think people that do customer support are expected to know everything about sc2 or anything like that and know what the developing team is talking about or doing. Not their fault and you won't get in contact with the developers because that isn't their job.

Reminds me of people who yell at the people who work at theaters about prices when its not their fault they just work there they don't run anything or have any say in the prices lol.
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LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
January 03 2012 20:07 GMT
#246
On January 04 2012 05:03 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:01 BloodThirsty wrote:
they arent going to do s**t im sorry for cursing but i called and they sound like they dont even know about it. They just keep trying to redirect me to someone who may know something but they still busy stuffing their noses with all the money they are getting from wow. Seriously this is really disappointing in blizzard. All it is doing is just making Sc2 NA league a bigger joke then it has been already. There are people in GM who barely are able to make it into masters league to begin with. Most NA players are playing on different servers at the top because its so pathetic how blizzard just doesn't give a s**t at all


I just want to state customer support won't know about this most likely. They aren't developers they didn't develop the games they are literally just doing customer support. It just bugs me you think people that do customer support are expected to know everything about sc2 or anything like that and know what the developing team is talking about or doing. Not their fault and you won't get in contact with the developers because that isn't their job.

Reminds me of people who yell at the people who work at theaters about prices when its not their fault they just work there they don't run anything or have any say in the prices lol.


fine fine u r right i updated my post. Just annoying its been now 2 weeks without even 1 word on their bnet forums about acknowledging it
JD, need I say more? :D
RonNation
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States385 Posts
January 03 2012 20:09 GMT
#247
ya from CS lifer experience IT and Marketing and Sales don't tell CS shit until 3 week too late
Catatonic
Profile Joined August 2011
United States699 Posts
January 03 2012 20:36 GMT
#248
On January 04 2012 05:03 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:01 BloodThirsty wrote:
they arent going to do s**t im sorry for cursing but i called and they sound like they dont even know about it. They just keep trying to redirect me to someone who may know something but they still busy stuffing their noses with all the money they are getting from wow. Seriously this is really disappointing in blizzard. All it is doing is just making Sc2 NA league a bigger joke then it has been already. There are people in GM who barely are able to make it into masters league to begin with. Most NA players are playing on different servers at the top because its so pathetic how blizzard just doesn't give a s**t at all


I just want to state customer support won't know about this most likely. They aren't developers they didn't develop the games they are literally just doing customer support. It just bugs me you think people that do customer support are expected to know everything about sc2 or anything like that and know what the developing team is talking about or doing. Not their fault and you won't get in contact with the developers because that isn't their job.

Reminds me of people who yell at the people who work at theaters about prices when its not their fault they just work there they don't run anything or have any say in the prices lol.

Except theres a flaw with this. They are customer support they should be able to support the customer in what ever feasable way possible which would require them to know about the game in which they're supporting which they dont. They have no clue and you dont need to be a developer to know most the issues that they can't answer. SO your whole example is extreamly flawed cause customer support has no clue when it comes to sc2 though when it comes to WoW holy shit they're right on that, dumb as shit :/
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25551 Posts
January 03 2012 20:38 GMT
#249
On January 04 2012 05:36 Catatonic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 05:03 blade55555 wrote:
On January 04 2012 05:01 BloodThirsty wrote:
they arent going to do s**t im sorry for cursing but i called and they sound like they dont even know about it. They just keep trying to redirect me to someone who may know something but they still busy stuffing their noses with all the money they are getting from wow. Seriously this is really disappointing in blizzard. All it is doing is just making Sc2 NA league a bigger joke then it has been already. There are people in GM who barely are able to make it into masters league to begin with. Most NA players are playing on different servers at the top because its so pathetic how blizzard just doesn't give a s**t at all


I just want to state customer support won't know about this most likely. They aren't developers they didn't develop the games they are literally just doing customer support. It just bugs me you think people that do customer support are expected to know everything about sc2 or anything like that and know what the developing team is talking about or doing. Not their fault and you won't get in contact with the developers because that isn't their job.

Reminds me of people who yell at the people who work at theaters about prices when its not their fault they just work there they don't run anything or have any say in the prices lol.

Except theres a flaw with this. They are customer support they should be able to support the customer in what ever feasable way possible which would require them to know about the game in which they're supporting which they dont. They have no clue and you dont need to be a developer to know most the issues that they can't answer. SO your whole example is extreamly flawed cause customer support has no clue when it comes to sc2 though when it comes to WoW holy shit they're right on that, dumb as shit :/


I think usually the job of customer support is to make sure people's accounts are working, help them if their sc2 is glitched or something like that-- or if people have difficulty patching or playing the game. They'll also answer questions about system requirements and help people install starcraft 2 if they run into a problem.

I think that something more complicated, like "why are these people with high bonus pool and low MMR in GM league" is probably beyond the scope of knowledge of a guy whose primary job is to make sure that your copy of starcraft 2 runs properly.
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birdkicker
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States752 Posts
January 03 2012 20:49 GMT
#250
Why is it taking longer to fix the bugs in this season then in season 4... the bugs are exactly the same...
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
January 03 2012 22:45 GMT
#251
lol 185 bonus and no kicks XD
tsuxiit
Profile Joined July 2010
1305 Posts
January 03 2012 22:50 GMT
#252
I hope Blizzard realizes that they are effectively not allowing anyone to qualify for BlizzCon who wasn't playing in the arbitrary hour that GM league opened up. It's such an idiotic discrimination that I'm amazed no one there has realized it.
Kvz
Profile Joined March 2010
United States463 Posts
January 03 2012 22:53 GMT
#253
lol GM is such a joke. this shows how much they care about the ladder. two weeks and not a single word to tell us what's going on
NrG.Kvz
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
January 03 2012 22:56 GMT
#254
On January 04 2012 07:50 tsuxiit wrote:
I hope Blizzard realizes that they are effectively not allowing anyone to qualify for BlizzCon who wasn't playing in the arbitrary hour that GM league opened up. It's such an idiotic discrimination that I'm amazed no one there has realized it.


^ THIS

Hope for new GM soon, not going to argue that GM should be reset every week (as it should), however atleast get a good system in place for players. I think SC2ranks has a castly superior system than blizzard does (lol)
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
Soft`Soap
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada865 Posts
January 03 2012 23:02 GMT
#255
Maybe this has been answered but why can't GM go with what was done in the Top 200
Where every week blizzard would release a list of the top 200 players based on MMR
That would mean that the GM league would change every week and it wouldn't be based on points or activity, but how 'good' the system thinks you are, and instead of giving promotions/demotions to the league it would just be a weekly 'you made it to the GM league' or 'you were placed in masters'
This would give GM more credibility imo
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Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
January 03 2012 23:15 GMT
#256
On January 04 2012 08:02 Soft`Soap wrote:
Maybe this has been answered but why can't GM go with what was done in the Top 200
Where every week blizzard would release a list of the top 200 players based on MMR
That would mean that the GM league would change every week and it wouldn't be based on points or activity, but how 'good' the system thinks you are, and instead of giving promotions/demotions to the league it would just be a weekly 'you made it to the GM league' or 'you were placed in masters'
This would give GM more credibility imo

wasn't based on mmr. was based on points + division modifier
but still was a better system!
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
January 03 2012 23:24 GMT
#257
On January 04 2012 08:15 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 08:02 Soft`Soap wrote:
Maybe this has been answered but why can't GM go with what was done in the Top 200
Where every week blizzard would release a list of the top 200 players based on MMR
That would mean that the GM league would change every week and it wouldn't be based on points or activity, but how 'good' the system thinks you are, and instead of giving promotions/demotions to the league it would just be a weekly 'you made it to the GM league' or 'you were placed in masters'
This would give GM more credibility imo

wasn't based on mmr. was based on points + division modifier
but still was a better system!


well it was something that could be easily understood.
justincover
Profile Joined August 2011
United States37 Posts
January 03 2012 23:24 GMT
#258
i dont even get my points on ladder on my accounnt...i should have alteast 800 points but is been the same ever since...and i won a lot of games that they didnt give me points for
Glon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States569 Posts
January 04 2012 01:36 GMT
#259
On January 04 2012 08:02 Soft`Soap wrote:
Maybe this has been answered but why can't GM go with what was done in the Top 200
Where every week blizzard would release a list of the top 200 players based on MMR
That would mean that the GM league would change every week and it wouldn't be based on points or activity, but how 'good' the system thinks you are, and instead of giving promotions/demotions to the league it would just be a weekly 'you made it to the GM league' or 'you were placed in masters'
This would give GM more credibility imo



GM has 0 credibility, even if it is decided correctly. Theoretically, the day after GM comes out it is false, but realistically a week or 2 after it comes out the bottom 100 players of GM should not be there (by mmr). If GM were updated constantly (always, no limit) it would be too unstable. I therefore think that in short time intervals GM should be updated.

I suggested weekly because if (when) blizzard screws up like this, it won't have that lasting of an effect and can be recovered from easily
@QuanticGlon https://twitter.com/QuanticGlon
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
January 04 2012 01:48 GMT
#260
On January 04 2012 10:36 Glon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 08:02 Soft`Soap wrote:
Maybe this has been answered but why can't GM go with what was done in the Top 200
Where every week blizzard would release a list of the top 200 players based on MMR
That would mean that the GM league would change every week and it wouldn't be based on points or activity, but how 'good' the system thinks you are, and instead of giving promotions/demotions to the league it would just be a weekly 'you made it to the GM league' or 'you were placed in masters'
This would give GM more credibility imo



GM has 0 credibility, even if it is decided correctly. Theoretically, the day after GM comes out it is false, but realistically a week or 2 after it comes out the bottom 100 players of GM should not be there (by mmr). If GM were updated constantly (always, no limit) it would be too unstable. I therefore think that in short time intervals GM should be updated.

I suggested weekly because if (when) blizzard screws up like this, it won't have that lasting of an effect and can be recovered from easily


If it's done correctly, it's somewhat credible.

Well anyways, I think blizzard isn't fixing as soon as last season because people don't seem to care as much.
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