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Cyro
United Kingdom20326 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:16 Jedclark wrote: I'd really like to see Terminus, it's great for macro games due to an easy third. http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/479_Daybreak http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/443_Terminus_SE Winrate stats look horrible for terminus, whereas daybreak is relatively balanced (44/56 worst matchup) | ||
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price
United States297 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:16 Jedclark wrote: I'd really like to see Terminus, it's great for macro games due to an easy third. ya that too. there seems to be a trend to having bigger maps. i think the downside is that bigger maps are much harder for beginning players ... more area to scout ... but then again i'm no GM | ||
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Gladiator6
Sweden7024 Posts
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price
United States297 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:26 Cyro wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/479_Daybreak http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/sc2-korean/maps/443_Terminus_SE Winrate stats look horrible for terminus, whereas daybreak is relatively balanced (44/56 worst matchup) the balance may be completely different for ladder too. if i remember, the recent matchup breakdown showed balance on the servers but in korea, TvZ was still 10-20% T favored | ||
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Ma7ix
Bulgaria4 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45343 Posts
On December 15 2011 11:13 floatingbee wrote: Removed 2 of my most dislike maps! Great! New maps seems really nice! Same here :D So happy that "Removed: - (4) Abyssal Caverns - (4) Nerazim Crypt" is going into effect ♥ | ||
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Lorch
Germany3691 Posts
BUT why the fuck is xel naga caverns still in the pool? The map just sucks for almost all the matchups. Meta and Shattered should go soon as well. Oh yeah and lol at them talking about 4 player maps having spawn positions that might favor one player over another and not having antiga be cross only... | ||
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ishboh
United States954 Posts
entombed is going to be too easy to take a quick 3rd for toss and terran and turtle. there isn't really an easy way to muta harass and the only ways into any of the bases are two ramps that are basically right next to each other. arid plateau has a gold expansion >< | ||
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Lupita
United States290 Posts
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conz
United Kingdom163 Posts
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Jedclark
United Kingdom903 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:30 Ma7ix wrote: I like the new maps. But I still think that Metalopolis and Xel'Naga are outdated. Shattered should be replaced in the next few patches too. Just that ladder map should be constantly replaced. We still have those maps for practice. Blizzard can replace Tal'Darim with some other GSL map too, there are alot of great maps on GSL map pool. Yeah, I don't like Shattered much, and Tal'Darim is okay. | ||
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
2player maps looks bad O__O 4player one looks neat though.. :D | ||
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jnkw
Canada347 Posts
On December 16 2011 00:02 Louis8k8 wrote: Okay, then it's just something wrong with the screenshot. It would be nice if OP could re-post that 4-player map screenshot. I didn't take the screenshots myself -- they're straight from the Blizzard post. I'll double-check with the editor when I get home and update the OP if necessary. | ||
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Nymbul
United Kingdom127 Posts
It's good that Blizzard have realised that spawn positions on 4 player maps can provide 1 player with an unfair advantage. PvP on Antiga is pretty bad for that. But then again Blizzard should just follow the tournaments lead and force cross positions on that map anyway I guess they haven't caught on to the GSL trend of removing golds but to be fair that base is far away, very wide open and requires you to break down rocks just to get at it. It's not like metalopolis where you can just float a CC there, drop down 10 mules and strip mine it dry in 2 mins | ||
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Serelitz
Netherlands2895 Posts
On December 16 2011 00:27 jdsowa wrote: Hey, Protoss. Here's a little food for thought. Z can try their optimal econ build--15 hatch--on you, but it's pretty risky due to the possibility of a cannon rush. So they can take that risk or they can go pool first and be safer. There's nothing written in stone that says you are entitled to a 100% safe FFE on every map. The game should have risks. That's what makes it a game. So I assume we can double FFE safely when you 15 hatch right? No, because as a Protoss you can't defend it without cannons and as a zerg a 15hatch is perfectly defendable. | ||
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
On December 15 2011 13:39 Plexa wrote: Because destination was a great map, and this map looks like crap. Took the words right out of my mouth. I miss Destination  , back in the day when only exceptional maps were played for over half a year instead of most maps. | ||
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diLLa
Netherlands247 Posts
The 2-player map is somewhat okish, although it's probably pretty zerg favored. | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
in fact i can already picture tvz on horizontal positions on that map. terran takes 3rd quickly and easily, then later moves down from the 3rd's ramp to almost immediately arrive to zerg's equivalent "3rd ramp" (which most zergs would not take as a 3rd in this situation). terran siege pushes up this 3rd ramp, toward the location of zerg's rocks, sieges the zerg's main ramp + natural choke from a protected narrow choke position (both behind and in front)...all very quickly due to the short distance. Scary.. | ||
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RyanRushia
United States2748 Posts
looking forward to them! | ||
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shadymmj
1906 Posts
On December 16 2011 01:38 ishboh wrote: my only complaints: entombed is going to be too easy to take a quick 3rd for toss and terran and turtle. there isn't really an easy way to muta harass and the only ways into any of the bases are two ramps that are basically right next to each other. arid plateau has a gold expansion >< that encourages a macro game and fast 3rd, right? you can't expect to be able to roach ling into contain every game...now protoss can have the same income as the zerg. | ||
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