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sekalf
Sweden522 Posts
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PcH
United States83 Posts
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:49 QxGRockEr wrote: Complexity looking pretty smart at the moment Yeah it gives room for their other top players to shine... | ||
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aderum
Sweden1459 Posts
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Paladia
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On December 15 2011 06:40 pookadin wrote: http://www.gomtv.net/forum/view.gom?topicid=212470&cid=0&kind=8 GOMTV statement on Naniwa Incident Interestingly enough they make things up, making me lose all respect for them. Naniwa earned a spot in Code S yet now they claim he didn't? Even the official website says he earned a code S spot. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension/ "Naniwa [..] earned a seat in Code S." | ||
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hazelynut
United States2197 Posts
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diophan
United States1018 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:44 itsjustatank wrote: I don't see a reciprocal apology, or even an acknowledgement of their flawed format, in that statement. If anything that GOM statement sounds even more like a canned answer than Quantic's repsonse. It's the end of the year tournament and people wanted to see everyone play each other, so it was a round robin tournament. GOM is supposed to apologize that they made a format to give the fans what they wanted? | ||
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archonOOid
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Dexington
Canada7276 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:50 Paladia wrote: Interestingly enough they make things up, making me lose all respect for them. Naniwa earned a spot in Code S yet now they claim he didn't? Even the official website says he earned a code S spot. http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/news/naniwas-ascension/ "Naniwa [..] earned a seat in Code S." That's MLG's website, not GOM's. | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
He's made it clear time and time again that he only cares about winning, why should that suddenly change when the community shits on him for giving up a match that he knew the community wanted to see. I can't see how you could argue one being oblivious to this fact, given the nature of crowd reactions at MLG to his matches against Nestea and the atmosphere of an invitational, (which is the most ideal fan-catered tournament). I hope he makes better decisions in the future, but I'm not banking on it. Not a fan. | ||
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mememolly
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wats0n
United States509 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:22 Liquid`Tyler wrote: I think it's a cultural gap both ways. I think if Sundance was in Mr. Chae's position, you'd see the league taking responsibility for the format and not punishing the player this harshly. Both parties have been disrespectful and acted inappropriately. One has apologized and taken responsibility and now the other ought to. It's not a cultural gap. It's pretty universal. All games in the GSL are meaningful. It wasn't a meaningless game. There's a reason why before every single GSL game they put the Win-Loss record of the player in the GSL on the screen. Every game matters. You're judged by your record. Naniwa is what, 0-7 in the GSL now? You can't tell me that there's no difference between a player who is 10-20 in GSL games and one who is 15-5 (random numbers). Your record matters. It's your measure as a professional player. Why do people keep acting like this game was meaningless? It wasn't a ladder game and it wasn't meaningless. It was a live studio game, there were a half dozen casters in two languages, a live audience, 100,000+ people in twelve different time zones, and he threw the game. Are you kidding me? | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
i'm very glad people defending naniwa and shit-talking gom are the minority he will have more chances in the future at gsl. good luck to all note: i'm not 100% on the format but i assume its a single elimination pool play, similar to world cup. there's no problem with this format. it can leave "meaningless" games but it can also build up pressure depending on the win/loss distribution. in the end, players play representing their team, sponsor, country and do your best out of respect regardless of the circumstances. doing other wise is what caused this drama in the first place. | ||
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Trusty
New Zealand520 Posts
I now have some empathy for Nani... Always one of my favourite players, it hurt alot to see him do that to NesTea  | ||
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Naniwa
Sweden477 Posts
thanks for alot of positive support. i will come back stronger ! | ||
itsjustatank
Hong Kong9179 Posts
MLG happened to be in a partnership agreement with GOM, and because you don't legally unilaterally change the terms of an agreement without prior consultation and consent either something improper happened in regards to seeds or this was agreed upon much later and not communicated in full to the community. On December 15 2011 06:53 Naniwa wrote: I can assure that i did indeed write everything. they only did spellchecking thanks for alot of positive support. i will come back stronger !Much love and support to you nani! Nice to see the hate train hasn't brought you down. | ||
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windsupernova
Mexico5280 Posts
Still people will argue and dicuss because they like their manufactured drama | ||
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Keone
United States812 Posts
I don't know how much of that statement was forced by Quantic for Naniwa to say, and I do believe both Quantic and Naniwa are bending over backwards and shouldn't have to go THIS far, but they definitely made the SMART decision. This should quell any problems in the future, and if not, well I don't understand why not. | ||
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Mashmed
Sweden198 Posts
On December 15 2011 06:52 wats0n wrote: It's not a cultural gap. It's pretty universal. All games in the GSL are meaningful. It wasn't a meaningless game. There's a reason why before every single GSL game they put the Win-Loss record of the player in the GSL on the screen. Every game matters. You're judged by your record. Naniwa is what, 0-7 in the GSL now? You can't tell me that there's no difference between a player who is 10-20 in GSL games and one who is 15-5 (random numbers). Your record matters. It's your measure as a professional player. Why do people keep acting like this game was meaningless? It wasn't a ladder game and it wasn't meaningless. It was a live studio game, there were a half dozen casters in two languages, a live audience, 100,000+ people in twelve different time zones, and he threw the game. Are you kidding me? Had he used a strategy he had worked on for weeks in that match... that strategy would be lost. All for a game that matters nothing, yes it matters not one single bit. You do not gain anything from winning that game since you cannot use your original strategy because that would be a waste. | ||
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