EPTAn article on Naniwa from Thisisgame - Page 25
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
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sLiMpoweR
United States430 Posts
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bLooD.
Germany470 Posts
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Russano
United States425 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:35 coljbass wrote: Look I am not here to take sides but let's just look at it on its face. Most people are quick to point out that the match "didn't mean" anything. How would you feel if your favorite NFL team was playing in a game that meant nothing and literally just came out and took a knee every down? The fact of the matter is we as a community do need to grow up and realize if we want to get anywhere that every broadcast game DOES matter. I can agree that this is being blown a bit out of proportion and I understand both sides of the coin but if you take the names out of the equation and just look at it on its face we should never be ok with throwing a match regardless. If it is broadcast to the fans then you are taking something away from the fans by just throwing it. That is what this should be about not about whether you like or don't like Naniwa or whether someone else did it before. Just take your favorite sporting event and imagine your favorite team basically just forfeit the game. It is not the team that loses it is all the fans that wanted to see the game that lose. I'd think it was a shitty game, I'd consider whether or not they should implement requirements to prevent it from happening. What I wouldn't do is penalize them for it, if it was legal. If people feel cheated out of a game, the organization has the OPTION of choosing to refund it, for publicity reasons. I just don't want people on here saying that it's required that Naniwa give a good game, when it obviously isn't. If we'd like to have a debate on instituting a system that requires that, and the merits of said system, then by all means go ahead. | ||
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Madder
Australia427 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:36 Mecker wrote: I can't believe the racism coming from koreans. They seemingly are reacting more strongly to this than the Coca incident. Not being allowed to play in GSL ever again? Oh please. It's as if NaNiwa is the new + Show Spoiler + sAviOr. Too soon? | ||
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SoylentCreep
Korea (South)176 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:03 drepnir wrote: Naniwa isn't getting paid to play video games, he's getting paid to win. [...] That's just plain wrong. He gets paid by GOM/Blizzard whoever 900 $ to play in the group stages of this tournament, and his team Quantic Gaming probably pays him a solid salary to play for them. Winning is just a bonus for being better than your opponents. | ||
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sopas
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Russano
United States425 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:38 SoylentCreep wrote: That's just plain wrong. He gets paid by GOM/Blizzard whoever 900 $ to play in the group stages of this tournament, and his team Quantic Gaming probably pays him a solid salary to play for them. Winning is just a bonus for being better than your opponents. I agree, his participation in the competition requires him to play the game, which he did. The quality is unfortunate but irrelevant. We are entitled to a game, not entitled to a good game. | ||
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zachMEISTER
United States625 Posts
He earned the GSL seed. | ||
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Kfcnoob
United States296 Posts
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Flondra
Canada56 Posts
Also, naniwa earned his code S seed by his ability, if you don't like him as a player then ignore him. This was an inconsequential match. Coca threw a match that had consequences and yet the backlash against him was far more tempered, most people here are going after Naniwa because of his personality. | ||
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BlindSight754
Canada156 Posts
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:42 Flondra wrote: Nestea and Naniwa were eliminated already, and you people expected to see the peak of performance from both Naniwa and Nestea? They had nothing to play for, especially Naniwa. The guy has gone through a lot of drama recently and recieves so much hate from the community it's hard to perform for your fans when everyone lashes out against him for anything he does. NesTea was willing to play it out, according to the tournament rules... that's the normal behaviour. | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:46 Odal wrote: In Idra's mind the games he prematurely gg'd he convinced himself it was a lost cause despite his best efforts at the time, from the start. This is definitely not the same as what Naniwa did who just chucked the game from the beginning because he was having a temper tantrum.Wow. Really? The entire post is just insulting Naniwa. Even idra didn't get this much shit when he threw games when he was pissed. Edit: Another way you can see it, there are thousands of aspiring pro gamers who would love to be in Naniwa's position playing at the Blizzard Cup, to do something like this, despite the importance of the game is very spoiled. I had this kind of attitude playing competative golf during High School, I was named all-state after massively improving but one tournament I simply left the course at the turn because I had a horrendous front 9. In hind-sight it was stupid as shit and I was suspended from the next tournament because of it and I caught alot of flak from my coaches which I know I deserved, Naniwa's case isn't much different. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:35 Russano wrote: In that case, Naniwa gave it his all to ending the game as quickly as possible. He gave it his all to complete his objective just like they did. So what's YOUR point? The point is there's a difference between playing not to lose so you can make it further in a tournament and throwing a game. It may not be best for the fans, for that particular game, but ultimately no one is going to complain because their team made it to the quarterfinals or whatever. In this case the greater goal of winning the tournament supersedes the lesser goal of winning that particular game. In the case of Naniwa vs Nestea, there was no greater goal, the only goal should have been to win for pride, and for the fans. Apparently Naniwa has no pride and no respect for the fans who paid to watch them play. | ||
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Licit
Japan237 Posts
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:38 SoylentCreep wrote: That's just plain wrong. He gets paid by GOM/Blizzard whoever 900 $ to play in the group stages of this tournament, and his team Quantic Gaming probably pays him a solid salary to play for them. Winning is just a bonus for being better than your opponents. hes being paid to play, but its his choice on how he chooses to play. theres no sliding scale of how good you have to be to deserve the money they offered up to compete. nestea doesnt get 99% of the money and nani only 30% for the matches he played "for real". your argument makes no sense On December 14 2011 01:46 Licit wrote: thisisgame is obviously just a bunch of racist cunts. to be fair them, much of what they said is other peoples comments they are just quoting. i cant remember what exactly was said about the esvgate but they were pretty harsh too. what i dont like about what they said is that he doesnt deserve to be a pro gamer. these are the same teams who had no problems with their players doing scv all ins EVERY GAME in season 1, they did them "better" than nani, but it still doesnt live up to their own ideals of being professional. | ||
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SoylentCreep
Korea (South)176 Posts
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