"Naniwa did not meet the standard expectation for a pro-gamer" is just too much. Please.
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Moxi
708 Posts
"Naniwa did not meet the standard expectation for a pro-gamer" is just too much. Please. | ||
JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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hahaimhenry
Canada368 Posts
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rogOPS
Norway34 Posts
Also Blizzard and GomTV should firmly warn about such a behaviour to Naniwa. Blizzard should warn Naniwa? Hahaha I wonder how people who gets this angry about it deals with other issues in real life. Naniwa earned his spot, it was up to him what to do with it. If he has broken the tourney rules, then just don't invite him in the future, a fair punishment. Keep going strong Naniwa, if people are this easily angered it's just fun. Really. | ||
Mereel
Germany895 Posts
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Fall.182
United States126 Posts
On December 13 2011 22:50 frede wrote: The Koreans did the same/ worse things in BW foreign tournaments so them getting pissed about this seems quite ironic. wow you're such a dumbfuck. They received shit from korean netizens too. Naniwa throwing those games away was basically spitting at the audience, viewers, casters, fans and other players. He thinks hes a fucking progamer? Progamers are pro because they are PROFESSIONAL trash like him shouldn't play starcraft. He has no talent anyways. all talk. EDIT: also people PAYED to watch these games. him throwing it away is the same as taking people's money and trashing it User was temp banned for this post. | ||
Nakama
Germany584 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:10 SonOfMKP wrote: Theory: If breathing isn't illegal and I do so, should I be punished if people don't agree with the way I breathe? Theory 2: Koreans all breathe out of their mouths, but I breathe out of my nose. Should I be banned from Korea for not following their customs which are not laws or rules? Think about that. Probe rushing, while it may be identical to just walking out and not playing a match, is not the same. If GSL's rules do not involve "No worker rushing", then by all means Naniwa has every right to end a game he doesn't want to play as fast as he can by executing said strategy. Just look at my previous post. The argumentaion is NOT about if nani broke a written rule becuse then u dont need a real discussion u need a referee . | ||
Ammanas
Slovakia2166 Posts
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gwixter
Slovakia336 Posts
ending match this was is maybe a little bit inappropriate but I feel like he had every right to not play that match in the first place | ||
Russano
United States425 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:09 dartoo wrote: From the page you quoted " However, as the 1982 match did not live up to these expectations and was widely perceived to be fixed, many observers including German and Austrian were strongly critical of the teams' performances." "In a similar instance in the 1978 tournament, at the end of the second round group stage the Argentinian team had the benefit of knowing the result of an earlier game involving Brazil, which led to a 6-0 win over Peru, advancing them to the final by goal difference. As a result of these and similar events, FIFA ruled that in the future both final group matches must start on the same day at the same time, so as to prevent such an event ever occurring again". Clearly people were not happy, to point of changing the rules, I dont about the other thing your talking about, dont follow american sports. If you'd like to have a debate over whether GOM needs to institute a rule to prevent this, then we can. However the current argument is about whether what he did was wrong, which I'm arguing its not. That incident made people realize that they didn't want to allow that kind of thing, so they changed it. Which is perfectly acceptable, however they don't retroactively decided it was against the rules and punish people for something that was legal at the time of the action. Theres a reason why we dont prosectute people who commited crimes that weren't previously laws. If a rape law was instituted in 1950, and you raped someone in 1948 when it was legal, they don't go back and charge you wtih rape. | ||
Xalorian
Canada433 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:03 radscorpion9 wrote: That was my favorite part as well XD. As a side note Greg fields wrote on twitter "dont have meaningless matches if you want players to take them seriously." I can see that side of the argument, but still it wouldn't hurt Naniwa to play a game vs Nestea. And to that, we could say : "Don't participate in tournament that a "meaningless" matches could happen, if you can't play them seriously." | ||
SonOfMKP
United States30 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:13 Fall.182 wrote: wow you're such a dumbfuck. They received shit from korean netizens too. Naniwa throwing those games away was basically spitting at the audience, viewers, casters, fans and other players. He thinks hes a fucking progamer? Progamers are pro because they are PROFESSIONAL trash like him shouldn't play starcraft. He has no talent anyways. all talk. EDIT: also people PAYED to watch these games. him throwing it away is the same as taking people's money and trashing it It makes me feel bad to be an American when I read stupid shit like this. Pretty much sums up a great comparison of your argument. | ||
Russano
United States425 Posts
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MayorITC
Korea (South)798 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:08 rblstr wrote: But you do realise that you'd be hurting the scene more than Naniwa by refusing to support MLG/Dreamhack/etc? No. Because you and I have different values on what hurts the scene and what doesn't. My philosophy is as follows: By not paying for DH/MLG, they'll lose money and a viewer (me). While money and exposure are important, having classy professional players will help generate those two and establish e-sports as a serious industry. Maybe when e-sports becomes mainstream, you'll have room for mavericks, but right now I believe that people like Naniwa are hurting the scene. All I saw from Naniwa today was a selfish kid who doesn't know the hardships of a vocation - an individual that doesn't help e-sport's image. If MLG/DH are tolerant of his behavior then I don't think that's going to help e-sports. Therefore I'm not really hurting the scene by refusing to support DH/MLG. | ||
[SuNdae]
Finland323 Posts
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WaSa
Sweden749 Posts
I'm feeling for nani so much now. Entire community is against him ![]() | ||
feanor5
Bulgaria15 Posts
btw i see the interview of naniwa after this " I gave Nestea a birthday present! it was on purpose!!! i swear ". and drama ppl well be like LULZ | ||
Alpino
Brazil4390 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:13 Fall.182 wrote: wow you're such a dumbfuck. They received shit from korean netizens too. Naniwa throwing those games away was basically spitting at the audience, viewers, casters, fans and other players. He thinks hes a fucking progamer? Progamers are pro because they are PROFESSIONAL trash like him shouldn't play starcraft. He has no talent anyways. all talk. EDIT: also people PAYED to watch these games. him throwing it away is the same as taking people's money and trashing it You lose all your credibility when you call the fellow TLer a "dumbfuck". Ah, and you're wrong about his talent and...almost everything else. Grow up. | ||
SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
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rblstr
Ireland398 Posts
On December 14 2011 01:17 MayorITC wrote: No. Because you and I have different values on what hurts the scene and what doesn't. By not paying for DH/MLG, they'll lose money and a viewer. While money and exposure are important, having classy professional players will help generate those two and establish e-sports as a serious industry. Maybe when e-sports becomes mainstream, you'll have room for mavericks, but right now I believe that people like Naniwa are hurting the scene. All I saw from Naniwa today was a selfish kid who doesn't know the hardships of a vocation - an individual that doesn't help e-sport's image. If MLG/DH are tolerant of his behavior then I don't think that's going to help e-sports. Therefore I'm not really hurting the scene by refusing to support DH/MLG. So Naniwa didn't play his absolute best in his first 3 games against cheesy as fuck Koreans? So what Nani threw the last game, he played exceptionally well in his first 3 so how about we focus on that instead of this stupid drama bullshit. | ||
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