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GomTV 2012 GSL Tour Changes - Page 6

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dCc
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada86 Posts
December 10 2011 10:24 GMT
#101
I thought the GSTL was fine the way it was. I liked how teams got to play all of the other teams. It was nice seeing oGs get to play five times.
Thretau
Profile Joined May 2010
Finland85 Posts
December 10 2011 10:24 GMT
#102
5 GSL's per year is the perfect thing that could have happened. It brings the tournament much needed prestige boost. 10+ GSL's per year or how many there were going to be, is just too much and winning the GSL gold didn't feel so special. Now GSL will be more on the lines of OSL and MSL. Good job.

I also wish GSTL would just grow into something similar to PL.
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 10:27:31
December 10 2011 10:26 GMT
#103
I won't miss World Champ or Super Tournament. Actually World Champ was good fun, and it was probably the most effective way to get heaps of foreigners into GSL for a weekend. Super Tournament i had no love for at all (and willingly pretend it never happened) so i definitely won't miss that at all.

I do wish GSTL would return to its original carnival 2-3 day feel (with all kills etc, exactly like it was originally), and then put in a team league like what BW has to run alongside GSL season.

edit: and if they did bring in the old carnival GSTL, then it could also be possible to get foreign teams over there, given they'd only need a few days of time investment. Although that would still be super expensive, so they probably wouldn't come anyway.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 10:34:12
December 10 2011 10:32 GMT
#104
World Championship was cool and i'll miss it. Less GSL seasons but more games per season (and thus it'll mean more to become a champion) is fine, but i wonder how the players think about it. Probably a lot of them will reconsider being pro now that they get less chances to climb up and also that the prizemoney comes less frequently and still at the same value.

More GSTL and higher prizemoney for it is cool, although i don't really agree with double elimination here. A system like for the PL in BW would indeed be optimal IMO.
Fabozi
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
December 10 2011 10:33 GMT
#105
Some nice changes but why do Koreans always make their tournament systems so complicated?
GeorgeyBeats
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom338 Posts
December 10 2011 10:37 GMT
#106
I can't say I am much of a fan of the GSTL format but the GSL format looks really cool, and I'm glad that the winners of code A finally get decent prize money. I also want more GSTL's to be run throughout the year, I love the GSTL camaraderie!
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thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
December 10 2011 10:53 GMT
#107
On December 10 2011 15:13 illsick wrote:
only 5 GSL's in 2012 and no WC or super tournament :/

And the prize pool is the same..n When I saw the mlg prov numbers and their promise of a larger prize pool I was like GSL has to step it up or the.best koreans will just go to the large prize pool foreigner events, I guess not tho.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
December 10 2011 10:54 GMT
#108
Nice changes, but i'd love to see GSTL like PL :/
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5500 Posts
December 10 2011 10:56 GMT
#109
On December 10 2011 19:32 HolydaKing wrote:
World Championship was cool and i'll miss it. Less GSL seasons but more games per season (and thus it'll mean more to become a champion) is fine, but i wonder how the players think about it. Probably a lot of them will reconsider being pro now that they get less chances to climb up and also that the prizemoney comes less frequently and still at the same value.

More GSTL and higher prizemoney for it is cool, although i don't really agree with double elimination here. A system like for the PL in BW would indeed be optimal IMO.

It's fine they've got mlg and I'm expecting a lot from them I bet sundance will be giggling once he hears about this.
http://i45.tinypic.com/9j2cdc.jpg Let it be so!
Apoo
Profile Joined January 2011
413 Posts
December 10 2011 11:02 GMT
#110
I do not like the GSTL change at all, because . . .


. . . some teams will get eliminated really fast.

. . . foreign teams wont participate in GSTL. The risk is to high to get out of the tourney after a small number of matches.

. . . no team wants to get eliminated early, so they only use established players to take no risks.

. . . it would be a great opportunity for unknown players to show their skill and if their team only plays a couple of matches their wont get a chance.

. . . the teams that advance to the finals will get a huge advantage. They will be broadcasted way more than the other teams and over the next season there is a chance to have a few "big" teams that always advance "small" teams that get roflstomped. Then there would be less competition.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
December 10 2011 11:02 GMT
#111
What about stream quality? Their currect HQ stream is good but I feel both SQ and HQ could be improved.
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Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 11:12:24
December 10 2011 11:08 GMT
#112
On December 10 2011 19:53 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 15:13 illsick wrote:
only 5 GSL's in 2012 and no WC or super tournament :/

And the prize pool is the same..n When I
saw the mlg prov numbers and their promise of a larger prize pool I was like GSL has to step it up or the.best koreans will just go to the large prize pool foreigner events, I guess not tho.


Practically speaking they went from 8 torunaments to 5. For the top end players the prize money is less but for everyone else it's better. Consider MVP's lost seeason in code A, he got Code S Ro32 money then drastically less than that for coming in 2 nd in Code A. The new system would have paid him a lot more for his time in Code A as well as giving him a chance to get back into Code S in the same season aka what Supernova and Keen did this season (they also got much more than just ro32 money this season by crawling back).

Edit: forgot the code A comparison someone like the second coming of Yugioh (code A 6 out of 7 seasons) the money is still better in the new system because he gets paid the equivalent of 10 of the old Code A prizepools.
Ninjahoe
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden148 Posts
December 10 2011 11:36 GMT
#113
I wonder if Quantic and EG might play together in GSTL?
As far as i know, there is no harmed feelings between any of these players. Not sure if idra likes NaNi tho, but I'm not sure why he wouldn't, can't remember any argument between them.

Would be really cool to see this, and they would have a good chance of really making an impact, with all the talent between players such as Huk, Idra, PuMa, NaNiwa, SaSe and Destiny.

Also Quantic sais that they are looking for a korean terran, wich would give them a rly nice mixture.

I'm definitly holding my thumbs for this! :D
NaNiwa, ThorZaiN, SaSe, Jinro, DeMusliM, MorroW
Chr15t
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1103 Posts
December 10 2011 11:53 GMT
#114
Lets read between the lines:

1. GSL will now last longer
2. Code S price-money wont change
3. BO3 instead of BO1
= The players will need to play more games, over a longer period, for the same amount of money
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
December 10 2011 11:58 GMT
#115
Excellent changes, not too fussed about the lack of Championship / Super Tourney
@followMVT
Andreas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Norway214 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 12:01:10
December 10 2011 11:59 GMT
#116
On December 10 2011 20:53 Chr15t wrote:
Lets read between the lines:

1. GSL will now last longer
2. Code S price-money wont change
3. BO3 instead of BO1
= The players will need to play more games, over a longer period, for the same amount of money

#2 could easily be read as, the overall Code S prize money for one year won't change, but it'll be spread out over 5 seasons instead of 9 (if you include ST and WC). You're reading too much between the lines

EDIT: Also, even if you're right, Code A deserves a bigger part of the share so I don't have an issue with it.
Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
December 10 2011 12:01 GMT
#117
wow thats sad news, hiding the prizemoney cut under a new format
Headnoob
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2108 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 12:10:46
December 10 2011 12:09 GMT
#118
Double the prize money for code a makes me very happy, Plus without the world championship and super tournament that means more of a budget for other things.
careohx
Profile Joined June 2011
263 Posts
December 10 2011 12:10 GMT
#119
On December 10 2011 16:09 Waxangel wrote:
Oh hey, their prize pool just got cut by 50%.

CARMAC, I HEAR YOUR GLOATING FROM ACROSS THE ATLANTIC


I bet Sundance has the biggest grin on his face right now. MLG is going to be superimportant now for TOP koreans for the money.
Massing
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany354 Posts
December 10 2011 12:14 GMT
#120
On December 10 2011 21:10 careohx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 16:09 Waxangel wrote:
Oh hey, their prize pool just got cut by 50%.

CARMAC, I HEAR YOUR GLOATING FROM ACROSS THE ATLANTIC


I bet Sundance has the biggest grin on his face right now. MLG is going to be superimportant now for TOP koreans for the money.


well nothing has been confirmed by now
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