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GomTV 2012 GSL Tour Changes - Page 5

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ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
December 10 2011 08:50 GMT
#81
Nice, never liked WC/Super tournaments as concepts anyway.
What still needs change though is the order they play out things. In my opinion, code A and up&downs should resolve before they start the final Ro8, so the finals actually feel like they have been worked to for 2 months, instead of being played in the middle of the season when half the games still will be played.
It would even be better to extend the season to 3 months allowing for maybe Bo5s earller and giving everything a more epic feel.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Ignight
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
December 10 2011 08:55 GMT
#82
Ohhh Now I'm excited about GSTL. More teams = more awesome! =D
For great Justice!
Odoakar
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia1837 Posts
December 10 2011 08:59 GMT
#83
I think it's not realistic to expect from GomTV to continue spending a lot of money on SC2, especially as very few know ig they are turning a profit right now or not. What needs to happen is for scene to evolve and for there to be a lot more smaller tournaments like KSL that give smaller rewards, so that the SC2 scene doesn't entirely depend on GomTV. Hopefully KeSPA starts a league of their own and start giving money also.
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
December 10 2011 09:05 GMT
#84
On December 10 2011 16:06 motumbo wrote:
Wait what? If a player falls from Code S to Code A and then wins they win the same amount as if they were to win Code S? So isn't there a chance that people purposefully drop out of Code S in the later rounds if they don't think they can win Code S so that they have a chance at more money in Code A then they would receive if they would get like RO4 or RO8? I don't know if this is probable but if it is possible then it is kind of worrying.

EDIT: left something out

This is the first thing I thought when I read that part.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
December 10 2011 09:09 GMT
#85
On December 10 2011 16:06 motumbo wrote:
Wait what? If a player falls from Code S to Code A and then wins they win the same amount as if they were to win Code S? So isn't there a chance that people purposefully drop out of Code S in the later rounds if they don't think they can win Code S so that they have a chance at more money in Code A then they would receive if they would get like RO4 or RO8? I don't know if this is probable but if it is possible then it is kind of worrying.

EDIT: left something out


Have you seen the people that have been in Code A matches lately? Falling down intentionally would be too risky. Players want a [b]stable[/b income and Code A is a "buffer" in case sh*t happens.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
December 10 2011 09:10 GMT
#86
I like all the new changes for the GSL. However the GSTL! Not so much
benemann
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany33 Posts
December 10 2011 09:15 GMT
#87
GSL changes look good so far, no WC or Super Tournament is pretty sad though.
Also GSTL looks bad aside from the possibility of foreigner teams.

One question that formed in my head while reading this though:
+ Show Spoiler +
since GOMTV works so close with Blizzard, are we really only gona see HOTS next year? Or will they simply do a GSL in the same format, without a break, for HOTS right when it comes out?
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
December 10 2011 09:16 GMT
#88
Please bring back the World Championship. The Super Tournament I can deal with but the World Championship was very enjoyable.
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This is Aru
Profile Joined August 2010
United States91 Posts
December 10 2011 09:18 GMT
#89
I'm not sure I am understanding this correctly...

The changes to the GSTL: In the Semi-Finals, a team with no losses (A1) plays a team with one loss (B2), and if A1 loses, they are out, even though it's their first loss?
aka Kasaaz
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
December 10 2011 09:21 GMT
#90
this is a good step in the right direction for gom. we needed the tournament scene to become more systematic instead of new announcements or concepts every other weekend.
The Show of a Lifetime
Heathen
Profile Joined January 2011
Philippines351 Posts
December 10 2011 09:22 GMT
#91
I hope they have like exhibition tournaments with non koreans. Or a league that has only non koreans in it.
Archvil3
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark989 Posts
December 10 2011 09:26 GMT
#92
Very nice changes, I even approve of no super tournament and no world championship. Their value was kinda deflated, sure it was kinda entertaining but neither tournament seemed prestigous to me.

With just 5 GSL's a year with no Bo1 knockout it becomes much more prestigous and an increased amount of foreigners in korea and koreans travelling around the world I dont see the need for the world championship. We see korea vs world every month and if the scene need a true korea vs world battle I am sure someone will put it out there.
Let thy speech be better than silence, or be silent.
RuzaSK
Profile Joined October 2011
Slovakia117 Posts
December 10 2011 09:27 GMT
#93
Looks very interesting, especially GSTL change .. can't wait to see how it plays out next year
It's simple, if it jiggles, it's fat. ~ Arnold Schwarzenegger
Gezz
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:51:14
December 10 2011 09:49 GMT
#94
On December 10 2011 17:50 ACrow wrote:
Nice, never liked WC/Super tournaments as concepts anyway.
What still needs change though is the order they play out things. In my opinion, code A and up&downs should resolve before they start the final Ro8, so the finals actually feel like they have been worked to for 2 months, instead of being played in the middle of the season when half the games still will be played.
It would even be better to extend the season to 3 months allowing for maybe Bo5s earller and giving everything a more epic feel.

What i'd like is if they just scrapped the whole 'code A' concept and just rename and remarket them as qualifiers for the next season. Instead of it going on at the same time as code S as it happens currently, i'd prefer it if the whole thing began after the code s finals have ended. They could keep the exact same format for code A but it just seems much more logical to me to have the qualifiers for your tournament happen before the event instead of mixed into the finals of your previous season. If they were to change the format to this aswell I think it'd be a lot more exciting and bring in a lot more pre-season hype.
Arryn
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany95 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 09:54:18
December 10 2011 09:54 GMT
#95
No World Championship
(One of my best sc2 viewing experiences 2011)
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
December 10 2011 09:58 GMT
#96
thank you selith!
chocopaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
2072 Posts
December 10 2011 09:59 GMT
#97
On December 10 2011 14:58 Selith wrote:
Second (and probably a very disappointing news for many of the readers), World Championship and Super Tournament will no longer take place in 2012.


Why would you think that? To this date I refuse to count the WC as a GSL, and the Super Tournament was silly as well. I'm fine with that!
http://twitter.com/lechocopaw
RPR_Tempest
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Australia7799 Posts
December 10 2011 10:11 GMT
#98
On December 10 2011 18:59 chocopaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2011 14:58 Selith wrote:
Second (and probably a very disappointing news for many of the readers), World Championship and Super Tournament will no longer take place in 2012.


Why would you think that? To this date I refuse to count the WC as a GSL, and the Super Tournament was silly as well. I'm fine with that!

...They would think that because we all love seeing foreigners in Korea and the Korea vs The World event was one of the greatest SC2 events of 2011?
Soundwave, Zerg player from Canberra, Australia. @SoundwaveSC
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
December 10 2011 10:18 GMT
#99
Ah, no World Championship is kinda sad! :/ But I'm so pumped for GSTL!! Looks neat! Hopefully foreign teams get the chance to come and play a season in the GSTL!
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 10:20:22
December 10 2011 10:19 GMT
#100
Only having 5 GSLs per year & getting rid of Super/WC is going to save them a butt load of money. I really hope they use that to improve their services (especially the free stream).
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