EPTGomTV 2012 GSL Tour Changes - Page 2
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Alephone
United States8 Posts
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juicyjames
United States3815 Posts
Nevertheless, with only 5 possible champions (6 if they have a Blizzard Cup) it'll be more prestigious than how 2011 had 7 GSLs (plus a World Championship, Super Tournament, and Blizzard Cup). It'll be more like BW that used to have 3 OSLs and 3 MSLs a year. I do not care for the missing Super Tournament, will miss the novelty of a World Championship, and dislike not moving GSTL to be more like Proleague. | ||
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RoninShogun
United States315 Posts
Edit: Im also super excited that the GSTL format change will "allow more teams/foreign teams to participate" | ||
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Kanil
United States1713 Posts
Moving GSTL away from Proleague is kinda bad though, because Proleague is totally badass and awesome. Plus it probably means no fantasy game, if there's no regular season. No reason to visit TL if I can't play fantasy StarCraft! :p World Championship was a lot of fun, but it might be tough to schedule or something? I don't know. Still, it's unfortunate. | ||
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Arceus
Vietnam8333 Posts
 For once the GSTL changes disappoint mebtw no announcement about new maps ? In the occassion of an all new GSL, they should introduce at least 3 new maps imo | ||
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anrimayu
United States875 Posts
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hunts
United States2113 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
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Greggle
United States1131 Posts
Super Tournament was sick too. I really liked having code A mixed with code S, it was refreshing. We even got to see a code A player almost take the whole thing. | ||
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Spaceneil8
United States317 Posts
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FrozenFrotie
Singapore156 Posts
On December 10 2011 15:17 RaiKageRyu wrote: Aww no more World Tournament. I didn't mind super tournament going away but World Championship was fun. Also, guys's, don't be FOOLED by Code A prize pool increasing x2. It does take twice as long now. I'm surprised GSL Code S didn't increase x2 as well. Now we got half the number of tournaments but also half the prize money? I hope Blizzard Cup makes a return next year at least. Korean players will now really need to travel abroad for more chances at prize money. Yea these were my initial thoughts as well. Seems like gomtv is scaling back on the overall prize payout for 2012. This may push even more Korean pros to join foreign tournaments, foreign teams or even stop progaming all together. However it seems that this change in prize distribution only negatively affects top korean pros (code S players). | ||
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Primadog
United States4411 Posts
The new GSTL has three stages, with following outline based on a league of 10 teams: I. "Prelim" - Start with 10 - Top two teams (based on past GSTL, starting with MvP and Prime) skips this stage (2 advances) - Teams are paired up randomly to play a single set against each other - Winner advances to next stage (4 advances) - Losers play against each other for advancement (2 advance, 2 eliminated) Sets played Seeded: 0 Winner: 1 Loser: 2 II. "Group Stage" - Start with 8 - The group stage consists of two groups - Each group consists of one seeded team (1), two winners from Stage I (2), and one team that does not get eliminated (1) - Played in "Dual Tournament" format, similar to the GSL group stage currently (ie: winner play winner, loser play loser, winner play loser) - Bottom two eliminated; top 2 of each group stage advance (4 advance total) Sets played rank 1: 2 rank 2: 3 rank 3: 3 rank 4: 2 III. "Finals" - Start with 4 - single elimination, rank #1 plays rank #2 Sets played Champion: 2 Runner-up: 2 3rd & 4th: 1 The translation did not go into how the stages are adjusted for more than 10 teams, but the overall structure is fairly flexible for a league of any size. The I. Prelim provides for the possibility of cutting more than two teams to leave the group stage for a rounded number (a power-of-2). The changes made sense in context of avoiding excessive time-commitment for foreign teams. The minimum number of sets a team play is 2, which depends on scheduling is 1 or 2 weeks, much less than the 5 expected from the first GSTL. Dual tournament was probably adopted because it has the advantage over the standard round-robin by never requiring for a tie-breaker, or require messy point systems. Of course, this also means that certain desirable matchups will never be played, simply because of the way bracket unfolds. Overall, the GSTL changes have sound reasoning. The only critic I have for it is that it may be confusing to introduce another new format (the previous one only had one run), and that multiple stages does not provide for bracket-theorycrafting (something invaluable for engaging hardcore fans). | ||
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Clank
United States548 Posts
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Hazuc
Canada471 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
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nufcrulz
Singapore934 Posts
Really disappointed with the GSTL changes as well | ||
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motumbo
United States130 Posts
EDIT: left something out | ||
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Clefairy
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Waxangel
United States33503 Posts
CARMAC, I HEAR YOUR GLOATING FROM ACROSS THE ATLANTIC | ||
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dcemuser
United States3248 Posts
On December 10 2011 15:21 Primadog wrote: The GSL changes are a step to the right direction.
I was not able to visualize the GSTL changes. It seems overly complex for a tournament of a comparatively small field (dozen of team instead of 128 in GSL). Agreed completely. However, you have to understand that with the longer GSL seasons came the removal of ST and WC - I mean if you're doubling the length of the GSL essentially that time has to come from somewhere. | ||
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