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croupier
Profile Joined July 2010
United States92 Posts
December 12 2011 18:08 GMT
#261
We'll see about the GSL format change but I do have to say i really liked the format of this season. I still like the 1 month(ish) duration, and the format seemed much more fluid between Code A & S.

We'll see if a 3 month long GSL can hold the attention and excitement of a 1 month long tournament.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
December 12 2011 19:19 GMT
#262
On December 13 2011 01:02 ronpaul012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 09:53 RifleCow wrote:
Prize money has always never mattered too much for these players. GSL has always been about prestige and popularity of the teams/players. When players wanna make a quick buck that's when they go to foreign tournaments. For other things, like the costs of living, the teamhouse pays for all of that.


I'd strongly disagree with that. Before players knew they could make a fairly decent living by just being in code S. But now with the amount of tournaments going down with the prize pool staying about the same players income will drastically increase. Sponsors are really going to need to step up or many pretty good players will only make around 5kish a year. The top will still make money, but the middle of the pack will suffer. And with Brood War pro's coming in, 2012 will have many more potential players, with less prize pool.



And that was still the same exact case in BW, and hell its the exact same case in the foreigner SC2 scene. Making a life out of tourney wins is unsustainable for everybody except the very top. What players want are good showings so that they can get sponsorships
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
aisight
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States145 Posts
December 12 2011 19:50 GMT
#263
Wait, so ro12 makes 1,000,000. How much do you make for making it past ro12 and into Code S? S' ro32 money (1,500,000)?
Logo2010
Profile Joined October 2010
509 Posts
December 12 2011 23:50 GMT
#264
Don't like the static Code S prize money. Time = Money, twice the time & same money = less money overall in the game.
SeinGalton
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
South Africa387 Posts
December 13 2011 08:51 GMT
#265
On December 13 2011 01:02 ronpaul012 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 09:53 RifleCow wrote:
Prize money has always never mattered too much for these players. GSL has always been about prestige and popularity of the teams/players. When players wanna make a quick buck that's when they go to foreign tournaments. For other things, like the costs of living, the teamhouse pays for all of that.


I'd strongly disagree with that. Before players knew they could make a fairly decent living by just being in code S. But now with the amount of tournaments going down with the prize pool staying about the same players income will drastically increase. Sponsors are really going to need to step up or many pretty good players will only make around 5kish a year. The top will still make money, but the middle of the pack will suffer. And with Brood War pro's coming in, 2012 will have many more potential players, with less prize pool.



If the BW pros switch, it'll likely be because their competitions decided to include SC2 or switch to it (a full switch being unlikely). Which either means OGN and them partner up with GOM or GOM has a competitor and it needs to up its game. Either way BW pros switching will be good for SC2, especially SC2 in Korea.

Anyways, I really like the longer format. It's going to be far more digestible especially to newer viewers, and we're going to see some epic storylines. And it more like the Broodwar tournaments now... just wish GSTL was more like proleague though.
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DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
December 13 2011 20:57 GMT
#266
yeah.
now every GSL - Championship means much
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
December 16 2011 01:36 GMT
#267
GSL premium ticket is a big big swindle yes? Only 5 seasons for $99 while buying it seperately, it's less than $50? O.O

MIND = BLOWN
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Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
December 16 2011 12:50 GMT
#268
On December 16 2011 10:36 Sableyeah wrote:
GSL premium ticket is a big big swindle yes? Only 5 seasons for $99 while buying it seperately, it's less than $50? O.O

MIND = BLOWN


Mmm, if you scroll to the bottom of the Ticket Info page, you can see the full details, it explains what the extra features you're paying for.

5 Individual Light passes are $14.99 x 5 = $74.95
Meanwhile an annual Light pass is $69.99.
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iky43210
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-16 13:04:00
December 16 2011 13:03 GMT
#269
On December 13 2011 08:50 Logo2010 wrote:
Don't like the static Code S prize money. Time = Money, twice the time & same money = less money overall in the game.


but another way to look at is that the players have to play 1/2 less? But I can understand the frustration since GSL is the only tourney in Korea
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