So many EG, Liquid and Mouz people in this, almost unnerving.
[NASL] Season Two Grand Finals - Page 14
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brucebanner
Norway31 Posts
So many EG, Liquid and Mouz people in this, almost unnerving. | ||
FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Hehe atleast that what i was used too. people don't seem to prepare anymore for the opponent and just do their standard thing because sc2 consists out of 10 tournaments a day, with a few exceptions in the gsl and outside of it. I don't mind and i have the gsl for the really cool games, but it would be nice if nasl would turn out the same way hehe, so i am cheering for them. | ||
VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:01 Ohnoes02 wrote: Er..no..? Don't think anyone complains about Tastosis. Apollo, day9, DJwheat etc do a fantastic job and the crowd can tell. They are one of the reasons why MLG is so successful. I have my nitpicks about Tastosis, but what he says is true. Nobody loves every caster. Almost everyone has a favorite caster, and a least favorite. | ||
Audemed
United States893 Posts
0/10 If it's news about finals, write about finals. If it's an article about the reg season, write about that. Don't use this as a way to vent your gripes/frustrations with NASL, TBFH. | ||
Yoshi Kirishima
United States10292 Posts
Anyways altho they are lacking a lot of koreans, the foreigners that made it are all pretty cool, and most of the iconic foreigners are there (where's whitera though? didn't join?) | ||
Vinx
Canada259 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:19 Audemed wrote: Came in the thread expecting "hype" or a preview on the NASL finals. Got a rant about how NASL regular season sucks. 0/10 If it's news about finals, write about finals. If it's an article about the reg season, write about that. Don't use this as a way to vent your gripes/frustrations with NASL, TBFH. well its been a pretty dissapointing regular season (especially viewership wise) since the regular season is like 90% of what NASL is it makes sense to talk about what has happened, and how its important for them to make a good impression for these finals, going into season 3 and beyond. IMO already off to a poor start with sc2 starting so late. looks like its about to start though , finally. I decided to pay for this weekend, because im going to be in and out alot this weekend, so i hope the vods are posted in a timely manner so i will beable to catch up on day 1 late tonight, and be totally caught up going into day 2. | ||
empty.bottle
685 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:12 turdburgler wrote: it doesnt really say that your an early game player either though :D. it says how good your macro is, but thats not the same as being a macro player. its true that if you float 1000 minerals at 4 mins then your timing attack is going to suck. but floating 1k at 4 mins but then playing a "macro game" would suck too. high sq =~good macro, it doesnt say anything about if you rush or sit back and defence it. obviously its gets harder to keep your sq high the longer your average game is but that added information is needed before making any judgement. this is part of what makes idra so impressive with macro. not only does he has the highest sq but his average game length is the highest. I posted that to ilustrate that is not valid to say that your macro is decent based on SQ and having a history of 1-2 base play. | ||
Audemed
United States893 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:29 Executor1 wrote: well its been a pretty dissapointing regular season (especially viewership wise) since the regular season is like 90% of what NASL is it makes sense to talk about what has happened, and how its important for them to make a good impression for these finals, going into season 3 and beyond. IMO already off to a poor start with sc2 starting so late. looks like its about to start though , finally. I decided to pay for this weekend, because im going to be in and out alot this weekend, so i hope the vods are posted in a timely manner so i will beable to catch up on day 1 late tonight, and be totally caught up going into day 2. I can totally understand gripes with the regular season, however, this was supposed to be a "NASL Finals Preview", not a "NASL gripes and oh yeah there's finals this weekend". | ||
icouldcareless
United States96 Posts
Personally, I skipped almost the entire regular season since there is currently too much high quality sc2 content being made every day for me to watch all of it. I will give the finals a shot and hope days 1 and 2 are better than season 1. | ||
Mordiford
4448 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:43 Forikorder wrote: for the people comparing NASL to dreamhack, thats apples to oranges and im sure many people will immediately say im wrong without reading any farther but ehre goes the main season of NASL isnt like any other tournament its basically a couple months long group play its basically like the first 2 days of MLG stretched out for months then theres the finals with is the oranges to dreamhacks oranges the finals have good casters, good games, good venue, good entertainment like the live shows going on i dont get how people can complain about the casters when DjWheat, Day[9], mr.bitter, husky and rotterdam will be there so you cant say the casting will be terrible the players are nothing short of spectacular and are the lineup youd expect from IPLs and dreamhacks so you cant complain about the talent, imo its about the best line up you can get with the bulk of koreans refusing to join unless the path is paved with money its 10$ if you buy a pass now so you cant really complain about the price you cant complain (yet) about the stream since we havent seen the stream yet so really i dont see any reasons to complain about this weekend sure the regular season may have flaws, and your welcome to skip it, but the finals are looking amazing The issue is the product is still inarguably inferior to certain competitors without even making the attempt to compete, even if you pull out Dreamhack because it's a shorter event, IPL does long running events with high quality streams and VODs. While it's understandable that one is backed by a major organization, in terms of comparing products, that doesn't matter, one is charging for an inferior product. | ||
Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:55 FeyFey wrote: well i prefer the nasl format over the one weekend things like dreamhack, because you can prepare for your opponent, which means more interesting games, while these weekend events are just standard skill, with only small adaptions from the general playstyle (thats why you see such walkthroughs in mlg and stuff). Hehe atleast that what i was used too. people don't seem to prepare anymore for the opponent and just do their standard thing because sc2 consists out of 10 tournaments a day, with a few exceptions in the gsl and outside of it. I don't mind and i have the gsl for the really cool games, but it would be nice if nasl would turn out the same way hehe, so i am cheering for them. In theory I agree with you, SC2 is (obviously) a strategy game, so being able to play a strategy on your strengths and your opponents weaknesses is really awesome, can force a lot of mind games and really just adds a lot of depth in the MU. That being said, it's really hard to keep up to date with such a format, it's such a time stealer, the games are often at awkward times(depending on time zone, I fx have EU to early, NA to late tt) and if you aren't really committed/have people to cheer with you, it just feels(to me atleast) harder to follow. Add in the amount of streams going on, and yer, it kind of makes me like these "over the weekend" tourneys a lot more, even if players can't practice their MU. | ||
Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:38 Mordiford wrote: The issue is the product is still inarguably inferior to certain competitors without even making the attempt to compete, even if you pull out Dreamhack because it's a shorter event, IPL does long running events with high quality streams and VODs. While it's understandable that one is backed by a major organization, in terms of comparing products, that doesn't matter, one is charging for an inferior product. i dont see how the NASL finals weekend is an inferior product the last finals was amazing and this finals looks tob e amazing as well | ||
Mordiford
4448 Posts
On December 03 2011 05:49 Forikorder wrote: i dont see how the NASL finals weekend is an inferior product the last finals was amazing and this finals looks tob e amazing as well There's some very inarguable issues, the most outstanding and easiest to point to are the sound production and the resolution available. 360p is the unpaid default, compared that to Dreamhack or to IPL. It's definitively inferior. | ||
Squide
Sweden141 Posts
![]() i expected alot more I hope that in the final day it will go INZANE | ||
selaas
Norway40 Posts
On December 03 2011 06:00 Squide wrote: Wow.. the crowd is so thin ![]() i expected alot more I hope that in the final day it will go INZANE I don't know what to say, other than that I'm kind of embarrassed ... Poor players coming out to a giant empty room with nothing but a red carpet and like one photographer :-/ | ||
Young_Gun
United Kingdom18 Posts
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CurrrBell
United States67 Posts
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On December 03 2011 04:12 Longshank wrote: Oh shut up, an off-line event with this great line-up fighting for $100k and with so many good casters deserves a certain amount of hype no matter what. Take your hate elsewhere. This is a forum, where people come to share disparate opinions in a (hopefully) non-hostile environment. My opinion is different than yours -- you're going to have to learn to deal with that. See how that works? I've supported NASL with my dollars for two seasons. I'm able to criticize their product as I see fit. There's a difference between "criticism" and "hate", as you'll discover. | ||
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