EPT[NASL] Season Two Grand Finals - Page 12
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Macpain
France19 Posts
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 03 2011 02:57 neoghaleon55 wrote: I'm really glad Liquid has the brass balls (read: BAWLZ) to come out and talk about the NASL S2 being what it truly is: simply lackluster. The community needs to be critical as so many leagues are out. In the end, all the criticism should improve quality of all leagues. It's just refreshing to hear things non-sugar coated here in contrast to some...*cough* Inctrl SotG * cough* broadcasts. i dont know about you but this weekend NASL looks amazing and i dont get why people are picking now to critisize were looking at great games from great players with some great live shows going on i dont get why people are so determined to make NASL look so terrible and i dont get how anyone can say that the finals are going to be terrible | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
Hoping for a Hero vs Puma Finals! :D | ||
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Young_Gun
United Kingdom18 Posts
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:09 xBillehx wrote: I'm actually glad TL is able to be critical and brutally honest in writeups. No reason for fluffy posts pretending everything's amazing as we preview the upcoming finals and as it turns out I feel the exact same way about NASL so hopefully they have a great finals to make up for another poorly done season. Hoping for a Hero vs Puma Finals! :D The issue isn't whether TL is "able" to be critical in writeups in general. The issue is that it purported to be a finals preview when it actually just bashed the NASL regular season. It barely even mentioned the finals. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:09 xBillehx wrote: I'm actually glad TL is able to be critical and brutally honest in writeups. No reason for fluffy posts pretending everything's amazing as we preview the upcoming finals and as it turns out I feel the exact same way about NASL so hopefully they have a great finals to make up for another poorly done season. Hoping for a Hero vs Puma Finals! :D why couldnt they have written an article about the finals then after the finals write what they thought of season 2? | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
And the whole TT1 kind of thing is stupid, he's no more cheesy than half the players there, and there are people on TL that are just as cheesy as him. The poll was especially dumb. Reputation =/= truth. | ||
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Shodanss
Greece245 Posts
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
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Young_Gun
United Kingdom18 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:17 Doodsmack wrote: The issue isn't whether TL is "able" to be critical in writeups in general. The issue is that it purported to be a finals preview when it actually just bashed the NASL regular season. It barely even mentioned the finals. Uh... if you read the player as league comparison that is the preview for the final written up in an interesting and entertaining way. There are plenty of other sources where you can read up about the actual bracket. To all the haters on this thread, Team Liquid's writers should be praised for having the balls to out right point out all the flaw of NASL. If you want some fluff hype about the finals, go watch SOTG and ITG and listen to Incontrol's rambling. | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:00 jnsjr wrote: Looking forward to the NASL finals. There is alot of great foreign talent, and surely some great matches coming up. I hope they are able to pull off another great finals like last season. As far as the OP, graphics are awesome, and while the player + tournament comparisons are funny, I agree with previous posters and feel like this is out of place. Of course there is a time and place to criticize NASL for its shortcomings, but its not right before the finals. There is a great roster of foreign competitors in the finals, and in a hype thread that should be the focus. That negativity in the OP is overshadowing whats really important. IMHO, wait until after the finals to judge like this please. I think it's been on everyone's mind for a long time. As the finals are closing in, more and more people talk about the flaws of the NASL. Most of my friends and myself don't even plan on watching it simply because the league thus far have not been very exciting. The OP addressed some of these concerns directly while hyping the tournament is a great way to appease anti-fans while catering to fans alike. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
Love how TL took the kiddie gloves off for this one. Kudos brothers. Also, lol @ TT1. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:24 Young_Gun wrote: Uh... if you read the player as league comparison that is the preview for the final written up in an interesting and entertaining way. There are plenty of other sources where you can read up about the actual bracket. To all the haters on this thread, Team Liquid's writers should be praised for having the balls to out right point out all the flaw of NASL. If you want some fluff hype about the finals, go watch SOTG and ITG and listen to Incontrol's rambling. i opened this article becuase i wanted to read about the finals, hence why i opened an article named NASL S2 finals, what i got was them wining about the NASL S2 regular seasons if i wanted to hear mroe bashing i didnt care about i would go somewhere else i was interested in reading about the NASL finals, the casters, the match ups, the rivalries, the predictions, i didnt get any of that | ||
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neoghaleon55
United States7435 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:20 InvalidID wrote: This just feels like a rehashing of the same tired criticisms of NASL that seem to unfairly get piled on them. Both NASL and IPL have long broadcast delays for regular season play, both NASL and IPL had technical problems early in their first live event, and both have pretty similar viewer numbers for their regular season content. I don't understand the criticism of their casters, they are also roughly equivalent to the types of casters that daily events like their regular season typically get. Do you expect a small western organization to be able to afford retaining a day9 or a tastosis for a daily tourney? Quality casting has been a problem at the NASL for a very long time, since its inception. There are a lot of excellent casters out there on sc2casts.com who I'm sure won't mind a casting day job: Psy, Force, Ahnaris, Crota? There's absolutely no reason NOT to comply with fans and the community and get more entertaining casters. I am sure they could reallocate Gretorp to a managing position or something instead, since he's shown to be vital to the organization. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:32 neoghaleon55 wrote: Quality casting has been a problem at the NASL for a very long time, since its inception. There are a lot of excellent casters out there on sc2casts.com who I'm sure won't mind a casting day job: Psy, Force, Ahnaris, Crota? There's absolutely no reason NOT to comply with fans and the community and get more entertaining casters. I am sure they could reallocate Gretorp to a managing position or something instead, since he's shown to be vital to the organization. You shouldn't pretend that your opinion of Gretorp represents the opinion of the "fans and the community" | ||
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
Like, in hours from now? | ||
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Young_Gun
United Kingdom18 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:38 Doodsmack wrote: You shouldn't pretend that your opinion of Gretorp represents the opinion of the "fans and the community" Oh please, it is a common complaint amongst SC2 spectators that NASL's casters and Gretorp are lacklustre. So what Invalid writes does reflect the view of a lot of the fans. The viewer ship for NASL's regular season is proof that their business model is not doing great. Your point adds nothing to the discussion. | ||
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Doodsmack
United States7224 Posts
On December 03 2011 03:24 Young_Gun wrote: Uh... if you read the player as league comparison that is the preview for the final written up in an interesting and entertaining way. There are plenty of other sources where you can read up about the actual bracket. To all the haters on this thread, Team Liquid's writers should be praised for having the balls to out right point out all the flaw of NASL. If you want some fluff hype about the finals, go watch SOTG and ITG and listen to Incontrol's rambling. Refer to the Dreamhack Winter preview article for an idea of what an actual event preview is. Waxangel's tidbits about the players' history (which is what his comparisons to the tournaments amount to) don't cut it. And like the guy I quoted, you pretended the "haters" are taking issue only with the fact that TL writers criticized NASL. That's not the issue at all. | ||
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Snijjer
United States989 Posts
Pity he is the one who is doing the results lol... | ||
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