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[NASL] Season Two Grand Finals - Page 15

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Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
December 02 2011 21:05 GMT
#281
I think the quality should at least be free up to 720p. Every other tournament has at least that option without paying a dime. NASL should be no exception.
selaas
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway40 Posts
December 02 2011 21:07 GMT
#282
On December 03 2011 06:02 Young_Gun wrote:
Well, NASL is a massive fail! I just check out their stream with 360p resolution for unpaid default??? I think they are showing absolute contempt for regular SC2 fans by not showing in better quality in this grand final. The quality is absolutely trash! They have an inferior product and they are trying to rip us off? Good luck with that.


360p is good enough imo. Do you need to see the worms crawling around in the grass? It's free!

If people are complaining about casters not doing this or that or SC2 being a sport or not, none if it matters if they don't "support" (by watching a FREE stream) it.

Let's just hope the games are good. If not, then I guess the complainers win in the sense that NASL goes to hell.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
December 02 2011 21:08 GMT
#283
On December 03 2011 06:07 selaas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:02 Young_Gun wrote:
Well, NASL is a massive fail! I just check out their stream with 360p resolution for unpaid default??? I think they are showing absolute contempt for regular SC2 fans by not showing in better quality in this grand final. The quality is absolutely trash! They have an inferior product and they are trying to rip us off? Good luck with that.


360p is good enough imo. Do you need to see the worms crawling around in the grass? It's free!

If people are complaining about casters not doing this or that or SC2 being a sport or not, none if it matters if they don't "support" (by watching a FREE stream) it.

Let's just hope the games are good. If not, then I guess the complainers win in the sense that NASL goes to hell.


360p makes it difficult to even see the supply counts honestly, it's generally not a fun resolution to watch the game.

A number of the other products other people have named are free as well, and they offer higher resolutions. I would say that the NASL should at least allowed up to 480p without a ticket, that's still sub HD.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 21:12:49
December 02 2011 21:10 GMT
#284
Looks like the marketing department might of blown this one...hopefully ppl are just at work and thats why the low attendance..i hope

I still <3 NASL and think it will be a great tournie, but with showings of 10-15ppl...not much of an atmosphere, so far


Looking forward to seeing the 'electricity in the air' once people start showing, best of luck NASL
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hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
December 02 2011 21:11 GMT
#285
On December 03 2011 06:10 Prplppleatr wrote:
Looks like the marketing department might of blown this one...hopefully ppl are just at work and thats why the low attendance..i hope

I still <3 NASL and think it will be a great tournie, but with showings of 10-15ppl...not much of an atmosphere, so far


Plus college. I'm skipping class to watch this.
selaas
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway40 Posts
December 02 2011 21:13 GMT
#286
On December 03 2011 06:08 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:07 selaas wrote:
On December 03 2011 06:02 Young_Gun wrote:
Well, NASL is a massive fail! I just check out their stream with 360p resolution for unpaid default??? I think they are showing absolute contempt for regular SC2 fans by not showing in better quality in this grand final. The quality is absolutely trash! They have an inferior product and they are trying to rip us off? Good luck with that.


360p is good enough imo. Do you need to see the worms crawling around in the grass? It's free!

If people are complaining about casters not doing this or that or SC2 being a sport or not, none if it matters if they don't "support" (by watching a FREE stream) it.

Let's just hope the games are good. If not, then I guess the complainers win in the sense that NASL goes to hell.


360p makes it difficult to even see the supply counts honestly, it's generally not a fun resolution to watch the game.

A number of the other products other people have named are free as well, and they offer higher resolutions. I would say that the NASL should at least allowed up to 480p without a ticket, that's still sub HD.


Then again, the more popular something is, the more you seem to get for free since there is more money involved. I will admit that I don't know where NASL is on the scale compared to its analogues, but you see the supply numbers clear enough if you sit in front of a computer, you don't need to see the EXACT number. The casters (if they're competent) should note important stuff like supply deficits etc anyway.

I get your point though, but its free and good enough. But it's just sad to watch with this kind of audience :-(
MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
December 02 2011 21:27 GMT
#287
It' feels like Nasl is paying everything that happened in the previous season with the interests...
Mountains of money means nothing when they aren't paired with solid planning and common sense.

Guess they started too ambitiously instead of building a fanbase.

Well, I hope the games will make up for everything... after all it all comes down to that.
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Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-02 21:33:43
December 02 2011 21:28 GMT
#288
Im sorry, i know it is not NASL's fault...but Gretorp has always been soooooo quiet and i have to turn my volume full blast just to understand him...then i get a Wyoming commercial (which i realize they have no control over) that is INSANELY LOUD and i just go deaf....sorry, but not going to watch until there are players on that i want to watch....unfortunate, but it is ridiculous how large of a difference in volume when no settings change

EDIT: please raise casters volume so i don't have to go deaf to listen to cast
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iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
December 02 2011 21:28 GMT
#289
Thanks for the article, so stoked!
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gCgCrypto
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany297 Posts
December 02 2011 21:51 GMT
#290
i hope like i have never ever hoped before that NASL gets thair shit together cuz that what they are showing now is crap and i really wish for more people to show up so the players and casters have fun and i wish for a good and smoth production so the ones that are there dont regret it .

pls dear god =S
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 02 2011 22:05 GMT
#291
i hope people didnt thinkthered be a huge turnout thwn its the middle of the afternoon on a friday
xlava
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States676 Posts
December 02 2011 22:22 GMT
#292
Yikes theres nobody there

There are like 25k people watching though, so thats good I suppose. But wtf is with 2 PvP's in a row? -_-
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
December 02 2011 22:55 GMT
#293
On December 03 2011 06:27 MavivaM wrote:
It' feels like Nasl is paying everything that happened in the previous season with the interests...
Mountains of money means nothing when they aren't paired with solid planning and common sense.

Guess they started too ambitiously instead of building a fanbase.

Well, I hope the games will make up for everything... after all it all comes down to that.


are you implying they actually have the money available something like dreamhack has? just curious, would like a source.
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MavivaM
Profile Joined November 2011
1535 Posts
December 02 2011 23:04 GMT
#294
On December 03 2011 07:55 green.at wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 06:27 MavivaM wrote:
It' feels like Nasl is paying everything that happened in the previous season with the interests...
Mountains of money means nothing when they aren't paired with solid planning and common sense.

Guess they started too ambitiously instead of building a fanbase.

Well, I hope the games will make up for everything... after all it all comes down to that.


are you implying they actually have the money available something like dreamhack has? just curious, would like a source.


Sorry, I'm not english and I have troubles to understand what you are asking ^^
If you are asking if they have the money I'd say yes: players from NASL season 1 have already been paid (at least Darkforce, according to one of his past posts) and that prizepool was huge.

You don't plan another tournament like that without having the money.
If you are talking about how DH and NASL are different at spending their money, well...

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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
December 02 2011 23:24 GMT
#295
On December 03 2011 08:04 MavivaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 07:55 green.at wrote:
On December 03 2011 06:27 MavivaM wrote:
It' feels like Nasl is paying everything that happened in the previous season with the interests...
Mountains of money means nothing when they aren't paired with solid planning and common sense.

Guess they started too ambitiously instead of building a fanbase.

Well, I hope the games will make up for everything... after all it all comes down to that.


are you implying they actually have the money available something like dreamhack has? just curious, would like a source.


Sorry, I'm not english and I have troubles to understand what you are asking ^^
If you are asking if they have the money I'd say yes: players from NASL season 1 have already been paid (at least Darkforce, according to one of his past posts) and that prizepool was huge.

You don't plan another tournament like that without having the money.
If you are talking about how DH and NASL are different at spending their money, well...


as far as i know the prize pool was donated

NASL is pretty strapped for cash
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
December 02 2011 23:26 GMT
#296
On December 03 2011 03:17 Doodsmack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2011 03:09 xBillehx wrote:
I'm actually glad TL is able to be critical and brutally honest in writeups. No reason for fluffy posts pretending everything's amazing as we preview the upcoming finals and as it turns out I feel the exact same way about NASL so hopefully they have a great finals to make up for another poorly done season.

Hoping for a Hero vs Puma Finals! :D



The issue isn't whether TL is "able" to be critical in writeups in general. The issue is that it purported to be a finals preview when it actually just bashed the NASL regular season. It barely even mentioned the finals.


Every finals preview will talk about what came before. There will be lots of people watching the finals that didn't watch a single game from the regular season. So it's appropriate.

But generally speaking you would talk about the games more than the production/organization, so it was a little odd. But on the other hand for a big chunk of people who skipped over NASL S2, all they knew was how many technical difficulties S1 had and the entire PR-fail with the Koreans pulling out (accusing the wrong people for starters...).

I guess it's unfortunately that NASL has been getting more press about NASL than the games even from the start (those application videos, select drama, ect), but it's oddly appropriate that the finals article would talk more about NASL the organization than NASL the event...

I do agree that even a simple road to the finals or cursory analysis of who was favored to finish where should be mandatory in these kinds of articles though.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
December 03 2011 00:10 GMT
#297
-.- Well, we shall see if we can get a royal flush, a two pair, or absolutely nothing...

hope for the best
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Pirat6662001
Profile Joined January 2011
Russian Federation949 Posts
December 03 2011 00:13 GMT
#298
So sad that the venue is empty
So.. this Earth, nice planet you might say- WRONG!!
ilikeredheads
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1995 Posts
December 03 2011 00:22 GMT
#299
i dont know if it's just me but I have to max out the volume to hear anything.
Prplppleatr
Profile Joined May 2011
United States1518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-03 00:49:46
December 03 2011 00:22 GMT
#300
Ok, i no longer blame Gretorp for the lack of volume (though he does speak way too soft), but now MrBitters mic volume is way off too...grr, never seem to get the sound right

EDIT: Gunrun came on and made the sounds 10X better and much more even, though still not even volume for the 2 casters...and now someone has changed it back W T F....this is really irritating
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