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Vinx
Canada259 Posts
I am usually plat ranked. I let my gf play a couple dozen games while I was gone for work at the start of Season 4. She got me placed in bronze... no problem... I'll just game my way back up. I know I can.... apparently not. I'm 75-2 and the #4 Ranked Bronze Player IN THE WORLD!!! http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/bronze ... seriously... B.Net 0.2 | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
 Hopefully GM will become dynamic now... edit: Vinx, they are waiting until you start losing and stabilize your MMR to promote you. That part isn't bugged. (you might get promoted straight to plat) | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On November 02 2011 06:56 Excalibur_Z wrote: I don't want people thinking that just because an MMR cap exists that there are many players who have actually reached that cap. I would estimate that only about the top 20 or so GM players would ever reach the cap. This isn't an MMR cap issue, something else went wrong which allowed players to place directly into Grandmaster, which should never happen ever. The way Grandmaster is supposed to work is that out of all the players who have bonus pools below 90 (and I believe if you aren't placed, you don't receive a bonus pool and therefore don't count among these players), it surveys whoever has the top 200 MMR moving average and creates an entry threshold at the #200 marker. Whoever gets beyond this point by winning a game after GM league opens, gets in. I have 95 bonus pool on VTdesRow being 1-0 does that mean im going to get demoted the next game I play ? | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:29 desRow wrote: I have 95 bonus pool on VTdesRow being 1-0 does that mean im going to get demoted the next game I play ? He said that you need to have <90 bonus pool to get promoted to GM, not demoted. The cap for demotion is 180 or something, don't know for sure tho. | ||
Excalibur_Z
United States12235 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:29 desRow wrote: I have 95 bonus pool on VTdesRow being 1-0 does that mean im going to get demoted the next game I play ? Haha. That is interesting. Although you don't meet the entry conditions, you also don't meet the ejection conditions. 181 bonus pool is the ejection point. It's almost like GM is being treated like a regular league rather than requiring certain rules. I wonder if you bomb a bunch of matches if you get demoted while this bug is in effect. | ||
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ThisGS
Germany255 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:29 desRow wrote: I have 95 bonus pool on VTdesRow being 1-0 does that mean im going to get demoted the next game I play ? i dont think 90 is the real number. + Once youre in, you wont get demoted by losing anymore, just by inactivity which means something like 2xx bonuspool i believe? not an expert on this one. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
it still shows as I got points in my match history (+16 etc) but my points don't change on my ladder. | ||
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Djeez
543 Posts
Hes there now. Either I didnt look properly (as did some other people, as I read MajOr didnt get in somewhere else too) or people are actually getting demoted without getting their bonus pool at 200+ | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:24 birdkicker wrote: Just got home and GM is full... -.- Wait till you see the players that got in it ^^. | ||
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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:40 Excalibur_Z wrote: Haha. That is interesting. Although you don't meet the entry conditions, you also don't meet the ejection conditions. 181 bonus pool is the ejection point. It's almost like GM is being treated like a regular league rather than requiring certain rules. I wonder if you bomb a bunch of matches if you get demoted while this bug is in effect. well i probably didnt have more than 90 at noon EST today =P | ||
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RastaMonsta
304 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:42 LuckyFool wrote: hi guys there's bigger issues than just messed up GM assignment. I'm not getting wins or pts for my wins in my division and my league icon is missing in the score screen after games...o_O; it still shows as I got points in my match history (+16 etc) but my points don't change on my ladder. same for me. I was GM last season also and shows no icon and no points, somethings goin on for sure | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:27 Vinx wrote: I actually think things are bugged... here is my proof. I am usually plat ranked. I let my gf play a couple dozen games while I was gone for work at the start of Season 4. She got me placed in bronze... no problem... I'll just game my way back up. I know I can.... apparently not. I'm 75-2 and the #4 Ranked Bronze Player IN THE WORLD!!! http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/bronze ... seriously... B.Net 0.2 Completely unrelated issue. If you lose 24 games in a row of course your MMR is going to drop like a fly. I think that's normal. | ||
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The.Doctor
Canada333 Posts
When ladder is first reset, the MMR is really volatile. I noticed friends who were 1700+ pts facing people with less than 1400 pts. Sometimes you'd face a player that was wayy above you in skill. A 1400pt player can randomly take games off of GM or high masters player because, while not being terrible, they can have some random play that players have never seen before and throw others off. Before the reset, your MMR might look like a logarithmic curve. After the reset, it might look more like a sin curve (minus negatives) because you're randomly loosing to bad players that you wouldn't have ever faced before. Since Blizz takes moving avgs, players who would originally have had a high MMR pre-reset don't anymore because of losses to low MMR and bad players might be able to just get on a win streak and have a higher moving average. So, the top 200 reserved slots get replaced quickly. That would also explain why the GM league filled so quickly. I remember it took a couple of days before, now, it was filled before 3pm EST. that's my theory anyways | ||
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Tuxedo
United States134 Posts
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Champi
1422 Posts
160th arcMSIEdgE 110 3 11 Zerg just noticed that one. points, wins, losses. wtf archaic MSI EdgE is an amazing zerg, but he is australian and is therefore very quiet on the international scene, much like deth, YYJ, mafia, jazbas and rossi, all very talented players that are unknown because australians are segregated into a small private SEA server with a bad latency connection to any of the other servers. edge even had a smurf in GM on the korean server last season, everyone loses games, in random orders, he just happened to lose a few after he got into GM. he takes games off players such as bomber and sase, but remember ladder is not a competition to see who is the best, those are tournaments, the ladder is a tool for practice, and a tool for fun, so it really means nothing about whether or not he is a deserving player I realise the point u were trying to make, with an account having a negative win loss ratio being accepted into GM, but unfortunately you just chose a bad example lol. | ||
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Vinx
Canada259 Posts
On November 02 2011 07:51 FairForever wrote: Completely unrelated issue. If you lose 24 games in a row of course your MMR is going to drop like a fly. I think that's normal. Yeah.. Thank you captain obvious.. but why doesn't it go back up? I play nothing but plat players but no promotions? by your logic 24 > 75??? huh? | ||
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IMNotMvp
Korea (South)530 Posts
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Djeez
543 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:04 Vinx wrote: Yeah.. Thank you captain obvious.. but why doesn't it go back up? I play nothing but plat players but no promotions? by your logic 24 > 75??? huh? Because your MMR has not stabilized yet to anything because it keeps rising. | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
this blows >_< | ||
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-stOpSKY-
Canada498 Posts
On November 02 2011 08:04 Vinx wrote: Yeah.. Thank you captain obvious.. but why doesn't it go back up? I play nothing but plat players but no promotions? by your logic 24 > 75??? huh? I think what he was saying is that you will continue to not get promoted till you start to lose then it will know where to place you. IE to start losing to Diamonds you are platish and if you start losing to masters you are diamondish. | ||
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