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On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season  glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above.
Top 100 masters =/= Top 100 MMR. MMR carries over from season to season and the players who got in had high enough MMR to get into GM. The system has nothing to do with ladder points. If it was then you would be in GM. It's been like that since GM came out.
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On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above.
mans gotta point, GM ladder glitched or something
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On November 02 2011 10:23 memcpy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above. Top 100 masters =/= Top 100 MMR. MMR carries over from season to season and the players who got in had high enough MMR to get into GM. The system has nothing to do with ladder points. If it was then you would be in GM. It's been like that since GM came out.
How does your post explain what I said about IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim, Kiwi and others? Do they not have incredibly high MMR?
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On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above.
I was top100 in masters before GM last season and I didn't make it in. All I'm saying is with the amountof smurfs and pros that dont play inbetween the reset and when GM start, top100 is not enough you need top50 or even top30 to be guaranteed a spot so saying i was rank 90 i deserve to be there is not accurate
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Anyone claiming that their wasn't a glitch is clearly daft. If your argument is that someone didn't get in because its mmr based your just wrong because plenty of people with gigantic mmrs didn't get in. Blizzard made some sort of mistake. If they will fix it or not is the real question because to do so would rob some ppl of their gm spots even if they were unjustly earned and i have a feeling blizzard wont do that from a customer service standpoint, However on the other hand you have other ppl that deserve to be in gm not getting in also getting ripped off so whatever blizzard does someone will end up with the short end of the stick. But all the arguing about i should have got in or you shouldn't have is pointless. In my opinion you should never be guaranteed a spot based on last seasons performance but it should be a set number of games (50 during 1st week imo) coupled with your mmr. Thus the most active / skilled people would be the ones getting the gm slots. It baffles me to think that anyone could get in to the most prestigious league in sc2 with an 0-1 record. It just makes no sense, if you want to be in gm you should have to put in the time during the first week like everyone else.
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normally during a season when a gm spot opens up, it usualy takes the next highest mmr in the masters league, meaning its in a way reserved, assuming you are active, and not open to whoever just masses games. So this season gm when you look at it and some pros havn't gone in, the spots weren't reserved for those with high mmr. (eg dde) So obv its broken and should be fixed soon...
You look at some of the past season for gm players? 1 of them was diamond ffs... Bottom gm mostly mid master last season.
zzz, either way just play
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On November 02 2011 10:45 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above. I was top100 in masters before GM last season and I didn't make it in. All I'm saying is with the amountof smurfs and pros that dont play inbetween the reset and when GM start, top100 is not enough you need top50 or even top30 to be guaranteed a spot so saying i was rank 90 i deserve to be there is not accurate
I can understand that then, I think we both just communicated a little bit off and it led to a misunderstanding. GLHF to you as well. 
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On November 02 2011 10:23 memcpy wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above. Top 100 masters =/= Top 100 MMR. MMR carries over from season to season and the players who got in had high enough MMR to get into GM. The system has nothing to do with ladder points. If it was then you would be in GM. It's been like that since GM came out.
thanks, many people do not understand this...
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Everything with MMR/favored seems to be glitched right now.
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I don't see the issue?
A number of pros stop being incredibly active on ladder in preference of practicing in custom games and because they don't make grandmaster it must be bugged right?
The league placements work based on MMR, if someone is winning consistently to get a large MMR putting them near the top then they've earned their spot in GM league, even if they are a no-name.
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On November 02 2011 10:44 Fyrepower wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 10:23 memcpy wrote:On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above. Top 100 masters =/= Top 100 MMR. MMR carries over from season to season and the players who got in had high enough MMR to get into GM. The system has nothing to do with ladder points. If it was then you would be in GM. It's been like that since GM came out. How does your post explain what I said about IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim, Kiwi and others? Do they not have incredibly high MMR?
Because the ladder was truly bugged this season as opposed to previous seasons. Generally when someone with super high MMR doesn't play and doesn't claim their GM spot, it will still be in a sense "reserved" for them during a period of time. Now GM will still eventually fill up without these pros because a variety of players drop in and out of top 200 MMR during the placement period (while those who are in GM and might've dropped out of top 200 MMR remain in GM). I'm not 100% sure it works exactly the way I described, or that blizzard's acceptance range necessarily isn't wider than merely the top200 MMR. Excalibur_z surely knows better. But it's a good enough explanation to show why being #90 master in ladder points has no bearing on GM.
*Edit: I'm not gaining any ladder points from wins either. Only losing them after losses. The post match window doesn't show a masters icon next to my nickname. It's just empty.
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Wow this is very weird, you should fix it soon ASAP. Major people like IdrA, DeMuslim, and all the progamers are going to be upset T_T
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A lot of people in denial about the ladder glitching it seems. lol
Give the "Points don't = MMR" a rest, you're actually arguing in favor of the glitch... does nobody know what MMR even means?
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On November 02 2011 11:38 T.Enex wrote:
Wow this is very weird, you should fix it soon ASAP. Major people like IdrA, DeMuslim, and all the progamers are going to be upset T_T
No Idra/demuslim won't care everyone know's how good they are and ladder is meaningless to them tournaments are their main focus.
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Must be a bug in the coding of how the automation grabs Master players and inserts them into the Grandmaster league. I don't know if they might change it but it seems off that people like Idra, Incontrol, KiWiKaKi aren't in the league. Oh well, they express their opinion as not caring so maybe we should not too.
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On November 02 2011 11:41 ThaZenith wrote:
A lot of people in denial about the ladder glitching it seems. lol
Give the "Points don't = MMR" a rest, you're actually arguing in favor of the glitch... does nobody know what MMR even means?
It means it's hidden and you can't see it, and it varies from what the actual points awarded are. You can have a very high MMR and a bad record/point total while someone with a lower MMR has a great record and more points.
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Heh, I hope this gets fixed asap, I heard from someone that they are gonna reset it so hopefully thats what happens, if I got GM just because of a bug then I don't want it, it doesn't mean anything so gogogo blizzard do something!!!.
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On November 02 2011 11:35 LaLuSh wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 10:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 10:23 memcpy wrote:On November 02 2011 10:11 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are? I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above. Top 100 masters =/= Top 100 MMR. MMR carries over from season to season and the players who got in had high enough MMR to get into GM. The system has nothing to do with ladder points. If it was then you would be in GM. It's been like that since GM came out. How does your post explain what I said about IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim, Kiwi and others? Do they not have incredibly high MMR? Because the ladder was truly bugged this season as opposed to previous seasons. Generally when someone with super high MMR doesn't play and doesn't claim their GM spot, it will still be in a sense "reserved" for them during a period of time. Now GM will still eventually fill up without these pros because a variety of players drop in and out of top 200 MMR during the placement period (while those who are in GM and might've dropped out of top 200 MMR remain in GM). I'm not 100% sure it works exactly the way I described, or that blizzard's acceptance range necessarily isn't wider than merely the top200 MMR. Excalibur_z surely knows better. But it's a good enough explanation to show why being #90 master in ladder points has no bearing on GM. *Edit: I'm not gaining any ladder points from wins either. Only losing them after losses. The post match window doesn't show a masters icon next to my nickname. It's just empty.
I am having the exact same issue...just that I only won 2 games which appear on history but not when i press view ladder.
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Coming from someone that has always had 2 Acc in GM, I really hope they reset GM and fix this because GM league becomes an utterly useless tool if i cant compare myself to people that actually belong there.
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