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On November 02 2011 08:09 LuckyFool wrote:
the ladder isnt broken for everyone I have a feeling players who are "supposed" to be GM are having issues because other #1 masters players are reporting the same issues I'm having...
this blows >_<
Just verified on some people I would qualify as grandmasters lock, and their point totals dont add up. Always short on dem pointz.
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I'm 15-1 in high masters this season and didn't get GM. Travesty.
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On November 02 2011 08:04 Vinx wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 07:51 FairForever wrote:On November 02 2011 07:27 Vinx wrote:I actually think things are bugged... here is my proof. I am usually plat ranked. I let my gf play a couple dozen games while I was gone for work at the start of Season 4. She got me placed in bronze... no problem... I'll just game my way back up. I know I can.... apparently not. I'm 75-2 and the #4 Ranked Bronze Player IN THE WORLD!!! http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/bronze... seriously... B.Net 0.2 Completely unrelated issue. If you lose 24 games in a row of course your MMR is going to drop like a fly. I think that's normal. Yeah.. Thank you captain obvious.. but why doesn't it go back up? I play nothing but plat players but no promotions? by your logic 24 > 75??? huh?
Because Blizzard has stated people who purposefully get demoted to newb bash will have extra hard time advancing back up the leagues.
Also you have to lose to get promoted
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On November 02 2011 08:19 Djeez wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 08:09 LuckyFool wrote:
the ladder isnt broken for everyone I have a feeling players who are "supposed" to be GM are having issues because other #1 masters players are reporting the same issues I'm having...
this blows >_< Just verified on some people I would qualify as grandmasters lock, and their point totals dont add up. Always short on dem pointz.
So, I can officially confirm some people that SHOULD be in Grandmasters (Ret, dKiller...) are not receiving their points for their wins. Not sure about losses. I also think the point system stopped working sometimes this afternoon, and not with the grandmaster opening (not 100% sure but it seems to be the case, implying Blizzard either noticed something, or an actual bug happened this afternoon).
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On November 02 2011 08:27 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 08:04 Vinx wrote:On November 02 2011 07:51 FairForever wrote:On November 02 2011 07:27 Vinx wrote:I actually think things are bugged... here is my proof. I am usually plat ranked. I let my gf play a couple dozen games while I was gone for work at the start of Season 4. She got me placed in bronze... no problem... I'll just game my way back up. I know I can.... apparently not. I'm 75-2 and the #4 Ranked Bronze Player IN THE WORLD!!! http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/bronze... seriously... B.Net 0.2 Completely unrelated issue. If you lose 24 games in a row of course your MMR is going to drop like a fly. I think that's normal. Yeah.. Thank you captain obvious.. but why doesn't it go back up? I play nothing but plat players but no promotions? by your logic 24 > 75??? huh? Also you have to lose to get promoted
No you don't
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150367
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On November 02 2011 08:34 Bizarro252 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 08:27 Sfydjklm wrote:On November 02 2011 08:04 Vinx wrote:On November 02 2011 07:51 FairForever wrote:On November 02 2011 07:27 Vinx wrote:I actually think things are bugged... here is my proof. I am usually plat ranked. I let my gf play a couple dozen games while I was gone for work at the start of Season 4. She got me placed in bronze... no problem... I'll just game my way back up. I know I can.... apparently not. I'm 75-2 and the #4 Ranked Bronze Player IN THE WORLD!!! http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/bronze... seriously... B.Net 0.2 Completely unrelated issue. If you lose 24 games in a row of course your MMR is going to drop like a fly. I think that's normal. Yeah.. Thank you captain obvious.. but why doesn't it go back up? I play nothing but plat players but no promotions? by your logic 24 > 75??? huh? Also you have to lose to get promoted No you don't http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150367
that guide is talking about CauthonLuck though. I doubt its uptodateness
I also doubt uptodateness of my knowledge however.
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On November 02 2011 08:37 Sfydjklm wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 08:34 Bizarro252 wrote:On November 02 2011 08:27 Sfydjklm wrote:On November 02 2011 08:04 Vinx wrote:On November 02 2011 07:51 FairForever wrote:On November 02 2011 07:27 Vinx wrote:I actually think things are bugged... here is my proof. I am usually plat ranked. I let my gf play a couple dozen games while I was gone for work at the start of Season 4. She got me placed in bronze... no problem... I'll just game my way back up. I know I can.... apparently not. I'm 75-2 and the #4 Ranked Bronze Player IN THE WORLD!!! http://www.sc2ranks.com/ranks/all/bronze... seriously... B.Net 0.2 Completely unrelated issue. If you lose 24 games in a row of course your MMR is going to drop like a fly. I think that's normal. Yeah.. Thank you captain obvious.. but why doesn't it go back up? I play nothing but plat players but no promotions? by your logic 24 > 75??? huh? Also you have to lose to get promoted No you don't http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=150367 that guide is talking about CauthonLuck though. I doubt its uptodateness I also doubt uptodateness of my knowledge however.
You don't have to lose to get promoted anymore.
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its accurate, any top player who didn't make it just didn't play, and odds are their mmr got passed or equaled? i know they lowered the cap or whatever. Stupid system though, lucky i had an 8 am class.
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I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre
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Why is everyone upset about not making GM? It's just another division that makes you feel like an elitist when you make it in, as to everyone who is currently crying now because 'they deserve' to be in there but didn't get in, this mentality just proves that it makes you think you're better then everyone else.
The only people who 'deserve' to be in there are pros that are easily a tier above ladder players. Examples are DDE, IdrA and Rain. That should be what GM means, people who are a tier above ladder standards.
Edit: I'm not saying the players currently who are in there should be in there, I'm just saying a lot of these post of people who aren't known that well outside of their clans are saying they should be in there instead of these other people.
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not about GM but I was top in my Diamond then the new season starts, i win the placement then I get shot down to Platinum and now I have to play my way just to get the top of plat
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ok so my match history says i won 17 pts for last game -_- but my ladder pts went up 2 pts =) i love u blizzard! my icon next to name is also missing at endgame screen -_-
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On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre
nope..
you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it.
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On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it.
I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion?
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On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion?
it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season  glhf !
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On November 02 2011 04:12 FairForever wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 04:11 -Illusion- wrote:
Grandmaster this season is going to be a joke; it's not very easy to drop out - you only have to play one game a day lmao. Not totally true though - if you're a low masters player, you're playing low masters even when you're in GM. Because your rank is so much higher than your opponent's MMR, you'll be gaining like 2 - 3 points per game won (if that). Still, they could theoretically stay in GM.
No, you can't be demoted out of GM. You can only be kicked out due to inactivity. You have to build up 2 weeks of bonus pool. Other than that, there's no way to drop from GM.
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On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf !
I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns.
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On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns.
Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there?
You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are?
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On November 02 2011 09:53 MonkSEA wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2011 09:44 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:35 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 09:32 Fyrepower wrote:On November 02 2011 09:25 desRow wrote:On November 02 2011 08:55 Fyrepower wrote:I was top 90 masters in NA when I went to sleep, figuring that I would be safe in my points and MMR until I would be able to play after school on the next day to get my promotion. Little did I know, when I logged on GM had already been completely filled with players that hadn't even played on the season... I know I'm not a pro but I think I'm more deserving than the majority of the last 50 in GM... http://sc2ranks.com/us/989883/bSunFyre nope.. you have to understand there's probably 89players ~ better than you and many pros who didnt play at all so lets say 30~40. then at least 50 of those people have a smurf who they laddered as well to get GM. That's how hard GM is to get if it didnt fuck up. Went to bed with 70th on desRow and i was skeptical i'd get it altho i had a sick mmr last season. with all the smurfs and the pros who dont play any game cus they know they have the mmr to get it, top50 in masters league will be the norm to have a shot at GM even higher than that VTdesRow was top10 in all masters last season and im sure i would have got it. I understand that there were 89 players that were either better or more active than I am, but the point of my argument is there are still at least 80 of those players that were ahead of me in masters yesterday are STILL listed as masters and didn't receive GM. And in response to your comment on MMR, I've been consistently beating current or last season GM's and many of the players in the lower portion of GM right now had match histories of playing low to mid masters and still managed to get in to GM. How does that mean that they are more qualified than I am for GM when they are playing lower ranked players and have less points, the two factors that determine league promotion? it's too easy to say that you deserved it. I guess we'll see next season glhf ! I have rankings and statistics to heavily support my argument. All you have in your argument is a system that only Blizzard knows about. You can hardly say you deserved it more when ALL you did for the season to get a GM rank on one account was play a 8 minute 4gate game on Xel'Naga Caverns. Why are you so upset about not making it? Why do you feel like you deserve to be in there? You don't deserve to be in there, that's the simple answer. Why do you feel like you deserve it more then the next 200 active top masters that are arguably better, if not as skilled as you are?
I don't deserve to be there because I wasn't there at the right time you mean. Before GM opened, I was in the top 100 masters for AM, and as GM hadn't been out yet, that made me top 100 overall in AM. That's why I feel I deserve it. The way the GM rankings were is that the first 200 masters players that played after the GM patch came in to effect received GM. How do they deserve it more than me and the other people that were higher ranked than me? All that they did was be decently high ranked and at the right place at the right time. I wouldn't be complaining if 200 players that were legitimately better than me got GM. I don't think I'm better than desRow, and this wasn't a personal attack on him. This is me asking why while I was ranked higher and facing tougher opponents than a good amount of people in lower GM why I didn't get it. I'm upset about not making it because it's a competition. The whole point of competition is the best prevail, or in GM's case the top 200, and that didn't happen for this season of GM. You can see this when players like IdrA, Minigun, Destiny, DeMuslim and many other pros aren't in GM but instead people that have never been there before and are likely not as good as the players listed above.
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