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desRow
Canada2654 Posts
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
HMMMMMM | ||
zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
now i can support KT in both bw and sc2. yes! | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:24 zeehar wrote: oooh yaah now i can support KT in both bw and sc2. yes! this is the only thing I actually look forward to in this whole thing really. Chill can I have my KT tag on the SC2 section too? | ||
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:23 DoomsVille wrote: I've noticed there hasn't been an official GSTL announcement... HMMMMMM That's because this has nothing to do with GSTL, or GOM. If the BW players switch, they'll play in Kespa/OGN leagues only. | ||
VPCursed
1044 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES49496 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:26 seraphe wrote: That's because this has nothing to do with GSTL, or GOM. If the BW players switch, they'll play in Kespa/OGN leagues only. unless, you know, these poor SC2 teams(in terms of sponsors they are..)are bought out by BW team sponsors. | ||
McFeser
United States2458 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:26 seraphe wrote: That's because this has nothing to do with GSTL, or GOM. If the BW players switch, they'll play in Kespa/OGN leagues only. So if they do switch, is this going to be really bad news for GOM? | ||
ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:18 tyCe wrote: Mechanical and technical skill is an aspect that is becoming increasingly dismissed as unimportant by SC2 fans. I think this is the wrong way to think about it if you are actually serious about SC2 becoming a fully-fledged sport. Football (not handegg) is very much a strategical contest between coaches, and yet the technique and mechanical skill of the players is what is actually visible on the TV. It is technical and mechanical skill that is actually exciting to the audience. Perhaps 5% of the SC2 viewing audience may have nerdgasms at Artosis' analysis of the beautiful strategy being deployed, but you can bet the other 95% will fall asleep if the mechanical skill required to pull it off is so minimal that the average viewer could do it with enough practice. People need to understand that mechanical skill is EXACTLY what makes a game interesting. You may think BW being mechanically demanding detracts from it being a strategy game, but the mechanical difficulty of the game is precisely what makes it a good esport, and arguably a better esport than SC2. By mechanics, I mean macro, micro and multi-tasking. The step away from macro that SC2 has taken has not corresponded to an increase in emphasis on micro. The fact that there are more viable spellcasters in the game does not increase the micro required. Indeed, Bisu has notoriously bad Carrier control and prefers Arbiters because, according to him, you can click on stasis and/or recall and you've gotten the use out of the Arbiter (or other spellcaster unit like the Defiler or Science Vessel). On the other hand, to increase the efficiency of non-spellcaster combat units, you must babysit them and that consumers a lot of your mechanical actions and focus. What is most disappointing about the state of SC2 progaming today is the lack of multi-tasking employed by the current top players, because with the easier macro AND micro, one would expect some godly multi-tasking at the least. Sadly, this isn't the case, and even if the multi-tasking of top players has improved dramatically over the last 6 months, they are still far worse than the multi-tasking of the top players in BW, and BW is a game with far, far, faaaar more demanding mechanical needs. TLDR: Mechanical difficulty is needed in esports. Dismissing it as adding no value to the strategical aspect of the game is an insular view that does not consider the viewing audience. SC2 requires far less mechanical skill than BW, with multi-tasking being the only aspect of mechanical skill able to truly "wow" an audience compared to BW. Despite this, current top SC2 players demonstrate weaker multi-tasking than top BW players. Therefore, BW players would re-energise SC2 as an esport, but I am not sure whether SC2 has what it takes to be a more entertaining esport than BW, ever. I understand what you are saying and respectfully disagree. I wouldn't equate the user-unfriendliness and thus higher mechanincal skill required to some kind of higher watchability...but maybe I just count to the 5% with nerdgasms at good strategical analysis. I completely agree though that what we see today is far from refined; in every single game even top-SC2 pros make glaring mistakes, lack multitasking etc. There is alot of room to improve. Can't both communities instead of flaming each other look forward? Maybe the awesome BW Pros will surpise us all and show us that even the "inferior" SC2 has unwakened potential ![]() Cheer up folks! | ||
MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
BRACE YOURSELVES Flash is coming. | ||
SeeDLiNg
United States690 Posts
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Deezl
United States355 Posts
Also, no KESPA in SC2. | ||
TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:28 McFeser wrote: So if they do switch, is this going to be really bad news for GOM? since GOM still holds for another year (dont quote me for this, but I think this is true, not 100% sure though) the rights for sc2 in korea I don't think so. Maybe gom and ogn will work together _IF_ this really happens? or am i just dreaming too much?^^ | ||
zul
Germany5427 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:26 seraphe wrote: That's because this has nothing to do with GSTL, or GOM. If the BW players switch, they'll play in Kespa/OGN leagues only. you can`t be sure about this, because it all depends on what`s written in the license contract. | ||
Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
On October 29 2011 01:26 BLinD-RawR wrote: this is the only thing I actually look forward to in this whole thing really. Chill can I have my KT tag on the SC2 section too? I support this so much. But... Do I go with STX or do I stick with Startale? The choices... | ||
ImmortalTofu
United States1254 Posts
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LayZRR
Germany449 Posts
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
could this actually hurt the GSL ? I don't know a lot about Kespa ... but is it possible they will create there own league and try to get GSL out of the picture? or is this a dumb question ? edit: sorry seems to have been discussed | ||
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