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Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
October 28 2011 16:54 GMT
#741
When I read that Flash was practicing SC2, I instantly soiled myself.
Wishing you well.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51702 Posts
October 28 2011 16:57 GMT
#742
On October 29 2011 01:54 Kyhol wrote:
When I read that Flash was practicing SC2, I instantly soiled myself.


that is from rumor territory, it should really not be discussed until confirmed.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Lynkilen
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway211 Posts
October 28 2011 16:58 GMT
#743
This is pretty fun to hear should be awesome. Hopefully it all goes well <3
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
October 28 2011 16:58 GMT
#744
If this all turns out to be true, I will probably start watching SC2 again (aside from the occasional foreigner tourney).
flanksteak
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada246 Posts
October 28 2011 16:59 GMT
#745
On October 29 2011 01:36 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 00:39 jj33 wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:35 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:31 JinDesu wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:29 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:10 Zaurus wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:08 rasers wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling.

wow. can u write even more bullshit??


what the! if you have 400 APM and you are still on PAR with a guy with 100 APM, then the game is screwed. It will be like any ordinary crap RTS games in which practising more has no effect.


Go play Spam Click v3 then.
400 APM were needed because the game was stupidly user unfriendly. It is not anymore, allowing more people without nerdy skills and time to express their strategical abilities. In a strategy game, that is what is important.


When watching pro-games and seeing them hit 200-300APM and STILL not doing everything that's needed in SC2, then that goes to show you are still wrong. APM is needed.


APM means, I can click fast. I does not mean I can click where it matters all the time.
Click fast can be achieve by any monkey, clicking where is matters have to though. Their is still ways to improve in this domain.
Look at EAPM. Their removed the spam, they fall to 60-100, maybe 200 in fights. So the standard 400 APM in BW, means 60 useful actions in reality. Hugh? What?



with every post, you show how little you know.

the top bw pros make meaningful clicks, they can multi task like monsters with multi pronged battles on the map while macroing and managing their bases.


allow me with an example:



Amazing to watch, really makes me want to clean up my play/mechanics.
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
October 28 2011 17:00 GMT
#746
On October 29 2011 01:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 01:54 Kyhol wrote:
When I read that Flash was practicing SC2, I instantly soiled myself.
that is from rumor territory, it should really not be discussed until confirmed.

Anything and everything gets discussed anyway. There are so many rumor based discussions on sc2 forums as is.
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
October 28 2011 17:00 GMT
#747
Cool news, it just worries me a little that there are still 2 new expansions to go. One of the awesome things about BW was that while the game was/is constantly evolving, new units/balances were not being constantly introduced, it was just new inovative play.

Really hoping that GreTech and KesPa also work things out without lawsuits.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
October 28 2011 17:00 GMT
#748
On October 29 2011 01:43 ReachTheSky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 01:36 konadora wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:39 jj33 wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:35 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:31 JinDesu wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:29 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:10 Zaurus wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:08 rasers wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling.

wow. can u write even more bullshit??


what the! if you have 400 APM and you are still on PAR with a guy with 100 APM, then the game is screwed. It will be like any ordinary crap RTS games in which practising more has no effect.


Go play Spam Click v3 then.
400 APM were needed because the game was stupidly user unfriendly. It is not anymore, allowing more people without nerdy skills and time to express their strategical abilities. In a strategy game, that is what is important.


When watching pro-games and seeing them hit 200-300APM and STILL not doing everything that's needed in SC2, then that goes to show you are still wrong. APM is needed.


APM means, I can click fast. I does not mean I can click where it matters all the time.
Click fast can be achieve by any monkey, clicking where is matters have to though. Their is still ways to improve in this domain.
Look at EAPM. Their removed the spam, they fall to 60-100, maybe 200 in fights. So the standard 400 APM in BW, means 60 useful actions in reality. Hugh? What?



with every post, you show how little you know.

the top bw pros make meaningful clicks, they can multi task like monsters with multi pronged battles on the map while macroing and managing their bases.


allow me with an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJbJpXirTLs#t=31m00s


I've been a bw player/fan since vanilla and i've never gotten a chance to see a full game of fpview of a progamer. This was super sick. Very inspirational. Every click was precise and he seemed to be in complete control of the game. Thank you for sharing.

Well that wasn't even a real game, it was for MBC attack so Bisu wasn't even trying his best.
Go look on Nevake, the newly uploaded ShowMeTheMSL has a ton of FPVODs.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 28 2011 17:00 GMT
#749
LEESSANGROK! LEESSANGROK! LEESSANGROK!!!!!!!!

If I can chant that one more time in my life I'm pretty sure I'll die happy. BW or SC2, doesn't matter. As a fan of both games I follow the players more than the games themselves.

JAEDONG FIGHTINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
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Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 28 2011 17:01 GMT
#750
On October 29 2011 02:00 SenorChang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 01:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 29 2011 01:54 Kyhol wrote:
When I read that Flash was practicing SC2, I instantly soiled myself.
that is from rumor territory, it should really not be discussed until confirmed.

Anything and everything gets discussed anyway. There are so many rumor based discussions on sc2 forums as is.

Fewer witch hunts than Reddit, at least?
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
ReachTheSky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3294 Posts
October 28 2011 17:02 GMT
#751
On October 29 2011 02:00 Condor Hero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 01:43 ReachTheSky wrote:
On October 29 2011 01:36 konadora wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:39 jj33 wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:35 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:31 JinDesu wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:29 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:10 Zaurus wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:08 rasers wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling.

wow. can u write even more bullshit??


what the! if you have 400 APM and you are still on PAR with a guy with 100 APM, then the game is screwed. It will be like any ordinary crap RTS games in which practising more has no effect.


Go play Spam Click v3 then.
400 APM were needed because the game was stupidly user unfriendly. It is not anymore, allowing more people without nerdy skills and time to express their strategical abilities. In a strategy game, that is what is important.


When watching pro-games and seeing them hit 200-300APM and STILL not doing everything that's needed in SC2, then that goes to show you are still wrong. APM is needed.


APM means, I can click fast. I does not mean I can click where it matters all the time.
Click fast can be achieve by any monkey, clicking where is matters have to though. Their is still ways to improve in this domain.
Look at EAPM. Their removed the spam, they fall to 60-100, maybe 200 in fights. So the standard 400 APM in BW, means 60 useful actions in reality. Hugh? What?



with every post, you show how little you know.

the top bw pros make meaningful clicks, they can multi task like monsters with multi pronged battles on the map while macroing and managing their bases.


allow me with an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJbJpXirTLs#t=31m00s


I've been a bw player/fan since vanilla and i've never gotten a chance to see a full game of fpview of a progamer. This was super sick. Very inspirational. Every click was precise and he seemed to be in complete control of the game. Thank you for sharing.

Well that wasn't even a real game, it was for MBC attack so Bisu wasn't even trying his best.
Go look on Nevake, the newly uploaded ShowMeTheMSL has a ton of FPVODs.


Ooooo awesome thank you ! ^^
TL+ Member
Raiznhell
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada786 Posts
October 28 2011 17:02 GMT
#752
On October 29 2011 01:36 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 00:39 jj33 wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:35 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:31 JinDesu wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:29 Merlimoo wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:10 Zaurus wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:08 rasers wrote:
On October 29 2011 00:01 GTLAllDayEveryDay wrote:
I cant wait for the BW pros to switch over so they can get man handled. It doesnt take too much talent to be the top player at a game that only a handful of players play. SC2 increased the player count many times over. It's funny to see all these BW fanboys speaking hypothetical about their heroes dominating the SC2, but you damn well know in their hearts they're hoping they don't switch because then if players like FlaSh, Jaedong, Bisu switch and become good, but don't reach the mind boggling heights of their BW glory, it just proves that they're not RTS gods, just exceptional BW players that were able to excel in a mechanically difficult game -- remember this is a strategy game, it shouldn't take 400 APM to execute a strategy. Also BW became a very niche thing over the years, like curling.

wow. can u write even more bullshit??


what the! if you have 400 APM and you are still on PAR with a guy with 100 APM, then the game is screwed. It will be like any ordinary crap RTS games in which practising more has no effect.


Go play Spam Click v3 then.
400 APM were needed because the game was stupidly user unfriendly. It is not anymore, allowing more people without nerdy skills and time to express their strategical abilities. In a strategy game, that is what is important.


When watching pro-games and seeing them hit 200-300APM and STILL not doing everything that's needed in SC2, then that goes to show you are still wrong. APM is needed.


APM means, I can click fast. I does not mean I can click where it matters all the time.
Click fast can be achieve by any monkey, clicking where is matters have to though. Their is still ways to improve in this domain.
Look at EAPM. Their removed the spam, they fall to 60-100, maybe 200 in fights. So the standard 400 APM in BW, means 60 useful actions in reality. Hugh? What?



with every post, you show how little you know.

the top bw pros make meaningful clicks, they can multi task like monsters with multi pronged battles on the map while macroing and managing their bases.


allow me with an example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJbJpXirTLs#t=31m00s


It's more than just APM or being able to multitask well it's that BW is by far a HARDER game than SCII. You take anyone from low masters and down and they would be a C- level in BW at best.
I myself was a cruddy D player and I'm low master high diamond in SCII.

You think about just how bad all our current top tiers were at BW and you can see that any A-team regular in Proleague would dominate with enough adaptation to SCII. Obviously it wouldn't happen right away but you take their game experience, on-stage experience, confidence and high level in skill at a harder game than SCII you get someone who is definitely going to impact the scene.

Look at forGG, qualified for Code A his first try wasn't it? Not to mention I think being the highest placing Terran in the Korean weekly tournament.
Cake or Death?
JLew
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada353 Posts
October 28 2011 17:02 GMT
#753
This is extremely exciting, while I have the greatest respect for the BW scene and it's followers, I think it is/was just a matter of time before this transition started happening. It will be incredible to watch these world class gamers come into our game, it is likely that some of them will make revolutionary changes.
@Triumph_eSports . www.Triumph-eSports.com
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11111 Posts
October 28 2011 17:05 GMT
#754
On October 29 2011 01:57 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 01:54 Kyhol wrote:
When I read that Flash was practicing SC2, I instantly soiled myself.


that is from rumor territory, it should really not be discussed until confirmed.


He'll kill sc2. If flash ever plays he's too intelligent and too mechanically good for a game still as rough and questionably designed as SC2. Flash will never lose if he plays sc2 terran. I 'm not even exaggerating. I can't think of what kind of allin or cheese is going to work on him with super repair bunkers and mules.


Don't know how to feel with the lack of news about Khan. ;_; I don't want Jangbi and stork to switch, but but if there's anyone I want to keep supporting it's them.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Havefa1th
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States245 Posts
October 28 2011 17:06 GMT
#755
I fucking love Esports. Everyone here fucking loves Esports. So why so much hate?
"Apparently I just needed to play the way I did... and realize he killed his own command center." - Idra
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 28 2011 17:07 GMT
#756
On October 29 2011 02:06 Havefa1th wrote:
I fucking love Esports. Everyone here fucking loves Esports. So why so much hate?

Because even if you love Esports, you will have games you love more than others.
Ofc people will get passionnate about a news like this one, it is a very important moment for BW.
Seiferz
Profile Joined May 2011
United States640 Posts
October 28 2011 17:07 GMT
#757
Would they all use their BW races if they switched?
rysecake
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2632 Posts
October 28 2011 17:08 GMT
#758
On October 29 2011 02:07 Seiferz wrote:
Would they all use their BW races if they switched?


Not necessarily. But I personally think the top top players will stick to their roots. Lesser players may switch.
The Notorious Winkles
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
October 28 2011 17:09 GMT
#759
On October 29 2011 02:08 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 02:07 Seiferz wrote:
Would they all use their BW races if they switched?


Not necessarily. But I personally think the top top players will stick to their roots. Lesser players may switch.

I predict that a lot of them will pick terran, because it is the most "complete" race atm and the most successful.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 28 2011 17:10 GMT
#760
I can't wait till these awesome players swith over. They will help push the limits of the current players and the result will be amazing games :D
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