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LighT.
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4501 Posts
November 03 2011 21:12 GMT
#3301
On November 04 2011 06:02 zyzq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 06:00 LighT. wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:55 0neder wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:52 Grumbels wrote:
Does Fantasy have good mechanics? I thought he was best at timing attacks, not so much at decision making, but I'm not super familiar with his play.

His claim to fame was executing weird builds with inconsistent success and amazing vulture micro. Something that doesn't exist in SC2. That said, he's one of the best BW terrans of the last few years. He beat Jaedong in the ProLeague Finals final set in an epic game to win the title for SKT.

What? Proleague finals? No SKT didnt win >: O!
The Final Boss beat BeSt in the ace match 4-3

You mean the STX masters Cup :\, one which KT didnt even participate in -.-


2009 proleague...

My mistake somehow I read that he was referring to the last Proleague finals that happened and I was like "WHAT"
kakaman
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1576 Posts
November 03 2011 21:13 GMT
#3302
Alright SKT and KT fanboys, you have another section for that lol
How2getMaster
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany124 Posts
November 03 2011 21:15 GMT
#3303
I hope they will bring new strats into SC2 because of their strong mechanical play.
:D
DiamondToss looking for a team :)
goneim
Profile Joined May 2010
China201 Posts
November 03 2011 21:20 GMT
#3304
Looking forward to KeSPA's next actions. BW pros transferring to SC2 is gonna definately help the game evolve <3
Day[9] Fan Club Member #516
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
November 03 2011 22:01 GMT
#3305
I feel that the release of HotS is really gonna propel the rise of these BW giants. The game becomes more like BW with this expansion and obviously there are untested builds and strat that these players can innovate
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
November 03 2011 22:19 GMT
#3306
Super super exciting. There is too much immature speculation in this thread though but I guess it can't be helped.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
November 03 2011 22:20 GMT
#3307
On November 04 2011 07:19 lynx.oblige wrote:
Super super exciting. There is too much immature speculation in this thread though but I guess it can't be helped.


Its really not that immature. It could be great for both the SC2 and the BW scene. More money circulating means growth, both BW and Sc2
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
November 03 2011 22:22 GMT
#3308
Immature speculation and you have been a large part of it, considering your lack of reading comprehension.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
November 03 2011 22:25 GMT
#3309
On November 04 2011 07:22 lynx.oblige wrote:
Immature speculation and you have been a large part of it, considering your lack of reading comprehension.


That's what i meant. The speculation isn't that immature at all. U don't have to attack me personally. I'm sorry if it seemed taht I understood immature to describe the ppl not the speculation.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 23:12:07
November 03 2011 23:08 GMT
#3310
fantasy's mechanics isn't his strong suit. he is inconsistent/volatile. he is liable to macro slipups and he is not that good at bio in t v z. bio control really shows mechanics well. still, he is on par with mvp at least in that area, with better multitask

now, light is someone known for having immaculate mechanics
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
riverkim09
Profile Joined November 2010
United States291 Posts
November 03 2011 23:10 GMT
#3311
On November 04 2011 08:08 oneofthem wrote:
fantasy's mechanics isn't his strong suit. he is liable to macro slipups and he is not that good at bio in t v z. bio control really shows mechanics well.

now, light is someone known for having immaculate mechanics


Yes. But in comparison to the current SC2 players, I think his mechanics will do fine.
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
November 04 2011 00:19 GMT
#3312
On November 04 2011 07:01 riverkim09 wrote:
I feel that the release of HotS is really gonna propel the rise of these BW giants. The game becomes more like BW with this expansion and obviously there are untested builds and strat that these players can innovate


Really? Its the complete opposite from my POV. Blizzard continues to shit on anything broodwar. There was a lot of noise about zerg needs lurkers, what do we get ? A nerfed broodlord. They know terran needs the goliath and they fucked up with the thor but they keep beating around the bush with stupid spinoffs of the unit. Battle helions? That's a firebat you fucks, why not just bring back firebats? And also carriers being replaced for a super corsair.

I'm a bit excited to see what broodwar pro's can do in sc2 but I kinda wish that they would just give blizz the finger for abandoning so much of broodwar.
dgwow
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1024 Posts
November 04 2011 00:23 GMT
#3313
On November 04 2011 09:19 DARKHYDRA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 07:01 riverkim09 wrote:
I feel that the release of HotS is really gonna propel the rise of these BW giants. The game becomes more like BW with this expansion and obviously there are untested builds and strat that these players can innovate


Really? Its the complete opposite from my POV. Blizzard continues to shit on anything broodwar. There was a lot of noise about zerg needs lurkers, what do we get ? A nerfed broodlord. They know terran needs the goliath and they fucked up with the thor but they keep beating around the bush with stupid spinoffs of the unit. Battle helions? That's a firebat you fucks, why not just bring back firebats? And also carriers being replaced for a super corsair.

I'm a bit excited to see what broodwar pro's can do in sc2 but I kinda wish that they would just give blizz the finger for abandoning so much of broodwar.


Blizz doesnt want SC2 to be just another broodwar, let them experiment and try to come up with better options than the original, jeez. The beta isn't even out yet!
Don't let those anti-cheese advocates tell you what to do. Rush to meet life head on!
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
November 04 2011 00:30 GMT
#3314
On November 04 2011 04:39 sopas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:31 riverkim09 wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:30 zyzq wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:17 riverkim09 wrote:
According insider sources (I'm Korean) Fantasy topped the korean ladder like twice already


Fantasy will be the best SC2 player if he switched. The guy's style is made for SC2. He's basically MMA on steroids.


That's funny since MMA was Fantasy's bitch when they were in SKT together. Now MMA thinks he's some big shit. LOL

i don't recall mma acting pompous.
only humble actually.

He seemed so for a long time. Until he betrayed poor Yugioh.
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SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
November 04 2011 00:40 GMT
#3315
On November 04 2011 08:08 oneofthem wrote:
fantasy's mechanics isn't his strong suit. he is inconsistent/volatile. he is liable to macro slipups and he is not that good at bio in t v z. bio control really shows mechanics well. still, he is on par with mvp at least in that area, with better multitask

now, light is someone known for having immaculate mechanics

Fantasy just stole Oov's builds and executed them inconsistently, which got him to multiple finals and even a couple of OSL finals and even up 2-0 against Jaedong in an OSL finals (but ended up losing 3-2) xd
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
November 04 2011 00:45 GMT
#3316
On November 04 2011 09:30 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:39 sopas wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:31 riverkim09 wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:30 zyzq wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:17 riverkim09 wrote:
According insider sources (I'm Korean) Fantasy topped the korean ladder like twice already


Fantasy will be the best SC2 player if he switched. The guy's style is made for SC2. He's basically MMA on steroids.


That's funny since MMA was Fantasy's bitch when they were in SKT together. Now MMA thinks he's some big shit. LOL

i don't recall mma acting pompous.
only humble actually.

He seemed so for a long time. Until he betrayed poor Yugioh.


He picked yugioh because he said that MVP was going to if he didn't.
DARKHYDRA
Profile Joined September 2006
United States303 Posts
November 04 2011 00:49 GMT
#3317
If you take broodwar and add new pathing, UI, macro mechanics and a new unit per race that's enough to make it completely different from broodwar without having to undo what's already part of the series.
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
November 04 2011 00:52 GMT
#3318
somehow i felt this change was inevitable... i mean... what else can kespa do?

i think that korean bw is losing popularity steadily and the best solution is to get attention by pushing the sc2 scene with BW players... BW leagues might get more attention if sc2 was added it seems like...

i can see BW players playing sc2 and BW at the same time actually... but it might decrease quality of BW pro scene.

It would also be uninteresting if the top 10 BW players didn't switch and everyone else played both BW and sc2 since those top 10 will forever be top 10.

But as far as rumors go, players here and there are switching, even the big guns.

on the sc2 vs bw side of this discussion...

battle hellion =/= hellbats. go back and play BW if you want lurkers and whatever other units in BW.
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zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
November 04 2011 00:57 GMT
#3319
On November 04 2011 05:47 Keone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 04:45 kakaman wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:34 riverkim09 wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:32 canikizu wrote:
Well maybe he got jealous because boxer thinks MMA is a better son.
sup son.

Man, it's so hard to be the emperor's sons.


LOL the moment Fantasy joins Slayers, MMA isn't gonna be Boxer's favorite son anymore. Fantasy is naturally better than MMA i feel like


Fantasy's GG timing is also naturally better than MMA's

LOL this was the one thing in the thread that cheered me up hahahahaha


lol

fuck fantasy and his gg timings

i hate that mofo with a passion
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 01:00:44
November 04 2011 00:59 GMT
#3320
On November 04 2011 09:45 arfyron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 09:30 pdd wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:39 sopas wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:31 riverkim09 wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:30 zyzq wrote:
On November 04 2011 04:17 riverkim09 wrote:
According insider sources (I'm Korean) Fantasy topped the korean ladder like twice already


Fantasy will be the best SC2 player if he switched. The guy's style is made for SC2. He's basically MMA on steroids.


That's funny since MMA was Fantasy's bitch when they were in SKT together. Now MMA thinks he's some big shit. LOL

i don't recall mma acting pompous.
only humble actually.

He seemed so for a long time. Until he betrayed poor Yugioh.


He picked yugioh because he said that MVP was going to if he didn't.

We're going off topic but, MMA suggested Yugioh to MVP. MVP was going to pick Yugioh on MMA's suggestion. Not the other way round. There's no denying it. He betrayed him.

EDIT: I still love MMA. But can't forgive him for what he did.
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