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Rastasham
Thailand27 Posts
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sabas123
Netherlands3122 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:12 Dante08 wrote: Give SC2 a chance, it can be pretty exciting. Everytime I see a bunch of Colossus killing stuff or marauders kiting zealots I scream like a little girl. Massing roaches is quite fun to watch as well. hahaaha, sure brop, did you ever seen mines placed in the mineral line and running a dragoon near it ?? (mines only activate with attacking units) did you ever seen a reaverdrop and the scareb close to a scv? you never know if its going to hit, what about recalls on a mine? those are better than watching units be a moved in sc2 User was warned for this post | ||
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Quintum_
United States669 Posts
On October 30 2011 16:16 ninini wrote: SC2 will never get as big as BW was. If there comes a time when ppl think BW isn't relevant, then a transition to SC2 won't do any good. The scene would eventually implode because there will not be enough fans to support the salaries that the BW players are used to. MBC withdrew from the scene probably because they feared BW's future and because they didn't see a future in SC2. Because MBC Game was just a subsidiary they was able to drop out from the esports scene without any regrets. OGN and KESPA can't do that though. If they think that BW will not hold for much longer, they will do anything to make a transition to SC2 work. I don't think it will though. I think the only right thing they can do is to start a new SC2 league and keep it separate from the BW league. Trying to convert the BW scene into a SC2 scene will not work, because they won't have the fanbase to back it up. I would say SC2 is as big as BW was if not bigger as SC2 has a massive worldwide fanbase. I dont know how you can say sc2 has no future while the foreign fanbase is growing bigger by the day. The BW scene was limited to korea but the sc2 scene is not and it has the potential to eclipse the bw scene. There is plenty of money in sc2 to support the scene into whatever it may grow to be. | ||
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Silentness
United States2821 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:12 Dante08 wrote: Give SC2 a chance, it can be pretty exciting. Everytime I see a bunch of Colossus killing stuff or marauders kiting zealots I scream like a little girl. Massing roaches is quite fun to watch as well. How the hell is watching Marauders kiting zealots or Colossi killing stuff exciting? That's like the most least entertaining event to watch... Anyways on topic: I always look forward to seeing more BW pros converting over to SC2.  | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:12 Dante08 wrote: Give SC2 a chance, it can be pretty exciting. Everytime I see a bunch of Colossus killing stuff or marauders kiting zealots I scream like a little girl. Massing roaches is quite fun to watch as well. You see colossus killing stuff and you scream like a little girl. I'm sorry. That's got to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. I'll be the first to admit that SC2 has plenty of exciting and entertaining aspects going for it. But hell, that's the farthest thing from one of them. I think even in the SC2 community, there's a general consensus that colossi are pretty lame to watch. Note, I'm not talking about unit balance, only about spectator value. There are so many ways to implement the concept of fragile-huge-aoe-damage-dealer without resorting to a unit that involves relatively little micro and inevitably leads to massing a death ball and a-moving. Besides, colossi only kill stuff when the opponent fails to separate his army and clumps them off to be destroyed. Why would you want to watch bad play? Much more interesting would be a group of colossi getting shit on by a player who knows that clumping against AOE is stupid and snipes each and every one of them with his units spread out into many control groups with good micro. | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5644 Posts
On October 30 2011 10:08 renaissanceMAN wrote: i wouldn't say flash just came into BW and started raping, he spent a LOT of time perfecting his playstyle, and although he caused a stir when he started playing, he really didn't hit his stride until post 08 (despite his remarkable winning streak early in his career) Well, he got his progaming licence after a month of training. If someone was to start raping the scene immediately after switching, it's Flash. ;p | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:25 seraphe wrote: You see colossus killing stuff and you scream like a little girl. I'm sorry. That's got to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. I'll be the first to admit that SC2 has plenty of exciting and entertaining aspects going for it. But hell, that's the farthest thing from one of them. I think even in the SC2 community, there's a general consensus that colossi are pretty lame to watch. Note, I'm not talking about unit balance, only about spectator value. There are so many ways to implement the concept of fragile-huge-aoe-damage-dealer without resorting to a unit that involves relatively little micro and inevitably leads to massing a death ball and a-moving. Besides, colossi only kill stuff when the opponent fails to separate his army and balls them off to be destroyed. Why would you want to watch bad play? Much more interesting would be a group of colossi getting shit on by a player who knows that clumping against AOE is stupid and snipes each and every one of them with his units separated in many control groups. you mean like one of the Terran vs San games where san has his colossus hidden in a big ball and Terran keeps scaring them off with vikings so a stimmed group of maruaders can take then out one at a time until sans army has the retreat? that was a pretty exciting marauder vs collosus fight  probably the most exciting those two units can get.san eventually transitioned into archons and storm drops and won | ||
BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES50466 Posts
well except when mondragon masses roaches...he knows whats up. | ||
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howLiN
Portugal1676 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:20 sabas123 wrote: hahaaha, sure brop, did you ever seen mines placed in the mineral line and running a dragoon near it ?? (mines only activate with attacking units) did you ever seen a reaverdrop and the scareb close to a scv? you never know if its going to hit, what about recalls on a mine? those are better than watching units be a moved in sc2 User was warned for this post Stop patronizing other people, each game has its strenghts. | ||
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Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:34 BLinD-RawR wrote: I'm pretty sure Dante is being sarcastic,everyone knows those are the 3 most rage inducing things in SC2. God I hope so. But I'm also know that there are indeed people who actually would say that with a straight face. When I first got SC2, I was totally shocked that reavers had been removed. And one of my friends was like, "Who cares? Colossi are so much cooler!" :| | ||
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Raiznhell
Canada786 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:21 Quintum_ wrote: I would say SC2 is as big as BW was if not bigger as SC2 has a massive worldwide fanbase. I dont know how you can say sc2 has no future while the foreign fanbase is growing bigger by the day. The BW scene was limited to korea but the sc2 scene is not and it has the potential to eclipse the bw scene. There is plenty of money in sc2 to support the scene into whatever it may grow to be. I think the SC2 scene has already eclipsed the BW scene. No offense but look at how TL was before SC2 was even announced, then look at how much is started to grow since 2007 and now look at TL now... BW was only huge in korea alone, SC2 is worldwide. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:39 seraphe wrote: God I hope so. But I'm also know that there are indeed people who actually would say that with a straight face. When I first got SC2, I was totally shocked that reavers had been removed. And one of my friends was like, "Who cares? Colossi are so much cooler!" :| well colossi are cooler. but reavers are adorable wriggling worms of death. so they win automatically. plus they are more exciting and require more micro so they are better units. xD | ||
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iamke55
United States2806 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:20 sabas123 wrote: hahaaha, sure brop, did you ever seen mines placed in the mineral line and running a dragoon near it ?? (mines only activate with attacking units) did you ever seen a reaverdrop and the scareb close to a scv? you never know if its going to hit, what about recalls on a mine? those are better than watching units be a moved in sc2 User was warned for this post On October 30 2011 17:25 seraphe wrote: You see colossus killing stuff and you scream like a little girl. I'm sorry. That's got to be the funniest thing I've ever heard. I'll be the first to admit that SC2 has plenty of exciting and entertaining aspects going for it. But hell, that's the farthest thing from one of them. I think even in the SC2 community, there's a general consensus that colossi are pretty lame to watch. Note, I'm not talking about unit balance, only about spectator value. There are so many ways to implement the concept of fragile-huge-aoe-damage-dealer without resorting to a unit that involves relatively little micro and inevitably leads to massing a death ball and a-moving. Besides, colossi only kill stuff when the opponent fails to separate his army and clumps them off to be destroyed. Why would you want to watch bad play? Much more interesting would be a group of colossi getting shit on by a player who knows that clumping against AOE is stupid and snipes each and every one of them with his units spread out into many control groups with good micro. Both from Romania? | ||
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Adreme
United States5574 Posts
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Spidinko
Slovakia1174 Posts
SC2 fans: "Give sc2 a try. It's got a lot of potential plus there are many great things in the game such as .." BW fans: "Lol nope. BW is the best. SC2 sucks." I know people are emotional about it but this isn't really a place to flame the other game. If you don't like it, don't play it. You don't have to come to SC2 forum to tell SC2 players that your game is better. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10660 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:25 seraphe wrote: You see colossus killing stuff and you scream like a little girl. You gave me incredible insight into what he said there. And I just ROFLd so fcking hard. Thank you sir, I needed that. | ||
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
On October 30 2011 18:35 Spidinko wrote: This thread is looking sort of like this: SC2 fans: "Give sc2 a try. It's got a lot of potential plus there are many great things in the game such as .." BW fans: "Lol nope. BW is the best. SC2 sucks." I know people are emotional about it but this isn't really a place to flame the other game. If you don't like it, don't play it. You don't have to come to SC2 forum to tell SC2 players that your game is better. You are being a bit one-sided here. You say like BW fans won't do anything to accept SC2. And tell me, why should they? It's not like SC2 fans are all good and nice and try to explain to BW fans how awesome SC2 is. There are many of those who say BW is old, and crappy and they show no respect for big brother. I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers. It's a wonderful game so deep and so awesome. And the scene in Korea with all it's history is amazing. And same is with SC2. It's awesome game, although it has some flaws. | ||
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JJH777
United States4414 Posts
On October 30 2011 17:21 Quintum_ wrote: I would say SC2 is as big as BW was if not bigger as SC2 has a massive worldwide fanbase. I dont know how you can say sc2 has no future while the foreign fanbase is growing bigger by the day. The BW scene was limited to korea but the sc2 scene is not and it has the potential to eclipse the bw scene. There is plenty of money in sc2 to support the scene into whatever it may grow to be. I'm pretty sure you would be wrong. BW had a 100k live audience. Outside of MLG and GSL you don't even see that many total viewers for SC2. Also didn't the biggest finals get viewers in the millions? There's never been anything close to that for SC2. | ||
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SeinGalton
South Africa387 Posts
Vulture > Hellion Goliath > Thor Wraith > Banshee Science Vessel > Raven Firebat > Marauder Valkyrie > Viking BW Siege Tank > SC2 Siege Tank Corsair > Pheonix Reaver > Colossus Arbiter > Mothership BW Carrier > SC2 Carrier Dark Archon > High Templar + Replicant + Sentry ( )Lurker > Roach + Baneling Defiler > Infestor Scourge > (Banelings x Corruptors) BW Zergling > SC2 Zergling BW Hydra > SC2 Hydra BW Queen > SC2 Queen To be fair, there are tons of things that SC2 does better (Brood Lord > Guardian, Warp Prism > Shuttle, Medivac > Dropship, Stalker > Dragoon) I have no problem with SC2 becoming big and taking over the world - I want that - I just wish SC2 was more like Brood War. | ||
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Spidinko
Slovakia1174 Posts
On October 30 2011 18:43 thOr6136 wrote: You are being a bit one-sided here. You say like BW fans won't do anything to accept SC2. And tell me, why should they? It's not like SC2 fans are all good and nice and try to explain to BW fans how awesome SC2 is. There are many of those who say BW is old, and crappy and they show no respect for big brother. I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers. It's a wonderful game so deep and so awesome. And the scene in Korea with all it's history is amazing. And same is with SC2. It's awesome game, although it has some flaws. I'm not saying they should accept SC2. If they don't like it they shouldn't play/watch it. The thing is, this is SC2 forum. Are there sc2 fans in BW forum saying BW is old and should die without getting banned? I don't think so. "I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers." Well maybe they don't care about BW. It's not a crime nor is it against the rules of this forum. You shouldn't come here to convert SC2 players to like BW. I get you guys are upset but that has nothing to do with SC2 players here. | ||
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