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On October 30 2011 18:35 Spidinko wrote:
This thread is looking sort of like this:
SC2 fans: "Give sc2 a try. It's got a lot of potential plus there are many great things in the game such as .."
BW fans: "Lol nope. BW is the best. SC2 sucks."
I know people are emotional about it but this isn't really a place to flame the other game. If you don't like it, don't play it. You don't have to come to SC2 forum to tell SC2 players that your game is better.
I think its also a bit like
BW fans: Man I hope the thing I like watching doesnt die, because i dont want to watch something new and shiny
SC2 fans: lol i hope bw dies and players i never even watched working their art can transition over to my game
because my game has BETTER GRAPHICS!
BW Queen > SC2 Queen
Dude what? The sc1 queen was a pretty bad unit in most situations. The new queen design even looks better
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On October 30 2011 18:51 Spidinko wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 18:43 thOr6136 wrote:On October 30 2011 18:35 Spidinko wrote:
This thread is looking sort of like this:
SC2 fans: "Give sc2 a try. It's got a lot of potential plus there are many great things in the game such as .."
BW fans: "Lol nope. BW is the best. SC2 sucks."
I know people are emotional about it but this isn't really a place to flame the other game. If you don't like it, don't play it. You don't have to come to SC2 forum to tell SC2 players that your game is better. You are being a bit one-sided here. You say like BW fans won't do anything to accept SC2. And tell me, why should they? It's not like SC2 fans are all good and nice and try to explain to BW fans how awesome SC2 is. There are many of those who say BW is old, and crappy and they show no respect for big brother. I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers. It's a wonderful game so deep and so awesome. And the scene in Korea with all it's history is amazing. And same is with SC2. It's awesome game, although it has some flaws. I'm not saying they should accept SC2. If they don't like it they shouldn't play/watch it. The thing is, this is SC2 forum. Are there sc2 fans in BW forum saying BW is old and should die without getting banned? I don't think so. "I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers." Well maybe they don't care about BW. It's not a crime nor is it against the rules of this forum. You shouldn't come here to convert SC2 players to like BW. I get you guys are upset but that has nothing to do with SC2 players here.
The fact that this is SC2 forum does not mean BW fans shouldn't be here. After all, its about BW progamers switching over. They should care about it, because they are BW fans.
If SC2 fans don't care about BW but love SC2 then they are missing out a ton. And i am not trying to convert anyone. Maybe you could try to see how awesome BW really is as this guy is doing it right now. And i am not upset, i am just sad and on the other hand excited, to see what will BW progamers bring to SC2.
You see, I am not a die hard fan of BW nor SC2. I like both games and i can see how painful it is too see your favourite team switch just like that to the other game, the game that might not be as good as BW. But we will see, time will tell  .
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It couldn't be avoided forever..
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Well I think it's because it's a good news for SC2 players. New pro scene coming to their game, more storylines and everything. It's really good for SC2.
Let's take fanclub threads for example. You can go to Idra's thread and say I hope he wins/ I hope his opponent loses. Going there to say Idra is a rager/bad player/etc is wrong.
Imo there should be BW version of this thread in BW section and maybe then people will stop fighting each other.
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Too bad that it seems now that Blizzard will finally allow Kespa to run SC2 tournaments.
Blizzard's refusal to let Kespa do SC2 was what kept SC BW alive and did extreme damage to the SC2 esports scene in Korea.
I would have liked to see Blizzard keep down their own game (incompetence much?) so Kespa could continue with their game SC BW for a bit longer.
Now that Kespa teams start with SC2, SC BW will soon disappear and everything in SC2 will change. You thought you were on the no.1 SC2 team? Well, maybe now you are the no.5 best team.
It's going to take some time for them to catch up. Even more so if the Kespa teams can't recruit current top SC2 players and have to discover a lot of stuff on their own. But once they do they have the talent, the teamwork, the discipline and the infrastructure.
Big question is what will happen to tv ratings once SC BW gets phased out and the novelty of SC2 is over.
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On October 30 2011 19:19 thOr6136 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 18:51 Spidinko wrote:On October 30 2011 18:43 thOr6136 wrote:On October 30 2011 18:35 Spidinko wrote:
This thread is looking sort of like this:
SC2 fans: "Give sc2 a try. It's got a lot of potential plus there are many great things in the game such as .."
BW fans: "Lol nope. BW is the best. SC2 sucks."
I know people are emotional about it but this isn't really a place to flame the other game. If you don't like it, don't play it. You don't have to come to SC2 forum to tell SC2 players that your game is better. You are being a bit one-sided here. You say like BW fans won't do anything to accept SC2. And tell me, why should they? It's not like SC2 fans are all good and nice and try to explain to BW fans how awesome SC2 is. There are many of those who say BW is old, and crappy and they show no respect for big brother. I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers. It's a wonderful game so deep and so awesome. And the scene in Korea with all it's history is amazing. And same is with SC2. It's awesome game, although it has some flaws. I'm not saying they should accept SC2. If they don't like it they shouldn't play/watch it. The thing is, this is SC2 forum. Are there sc2 fans in BW forum saying BW is old and should die without getting banned? I don't think so. "I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers." Well maybe they don't care about BW. It's not a crime nor is it against the rules of this forum. You shouldn't come here to convert SC2 players to like BW. I get you guys are upset but that has nothing to do with SC2 players here. The fact that this is SC2 forum does not mean BW fans shouldn't be here. After all, its about BW progamers switching over. They should care about it, because they are BW fans. If SC2 fans don't care about BW but love SC2 then they are missing out a ton. And i am not trying to convert anyone. Maybe you could try to see how awesome BW really is as this guy is doing it right now. And i am not upset, i am just sad and on the other hand excited, to see what will BW progamers bring to SC2. You see, I am not a die hard fan of BW nor SC2. I like both games and i can see how painful it is too see your favourite team switch just like that to the other game, the game that might not be as good as BW. But we will see, time will tell .
Still I find it out of place and just provoking a knee jerk reaction to make sc2 fans defend their game. No one likes their game called bad.
Maybe they are missing out but it's up to them. Many people would say you're missing out on life by just playing PC games. You're not going to quit because of it now, are you?
I know BW. I played BW more than SC2, even though it was a long time ago.
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On October 30 2011 19:08 TheAntZ wrote:Dude what? The sc1 queen was a pretty bad unit in most situations. The new queen design even looks better
Sure, that's a contentious one, but just think of how BW Queens have been used to demolish mech based TvZ. Just from an entertainment perspective, seeing those queens come in and destry a tank line with lings, ultras and defiler swarming the terran is so much cooler than anything I can think of being done with SC2 queens. That said, creep tumors and transfuse are both pretty cool.
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It breaks my heart to see all of the BW fans shit all over Starcraft 2. 
It's like a toddler being manhandled by our older and wiser grandfather.
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Edit: stupidity strikes, iPad on one page, laptop on another and home PC on the third. My bad.
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Forum Index > StarCraft 2
What the hell are you talking about Kazius?
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On October 30 2011 19:48 Kazius wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 18:51 Spidinko wrote:On October 30 2011 18:43 thOr6136 wrote:On October 30 2011 18:35 Spidinko wrote:
This thread is looking sort of like this:
SC2 fans: "Give sc2 a try. It's got a lot of potential plus there are many great things in the game such as .."
BW fans: "Lol nope. BW is the best. SC2 sucks."
I know people are emotional about it but this isn't really a place to flame the other game. If you don't like it, don't play it. You don't have to come to SC2 forum to tell SC2 players that your game is better. You are being a bit one-sided here. You say like BW fans won't do anything to accept SC2. And tell me, why should they? It's not like SC2 fans are all good and nice and try to explain to BW fans how awesome SC2 is. There are many of those who say BW is old, and crappy and they show no respect for big brother. I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers. It's a wonderful game so deep and so awesome. And the scene in Korea with all it's history is amazing. And same is with SC2. It's awesome game, although it has some flaws. I'm not saying they should accept SC2. If they don't like it they shouldn't play/watch it. The thing is, this is SC2 forum. Are there sc2 fans in BW forum saying BW is old and should die without getting banned? I don't think so. "I would like for all to have some respect for BW and BW progamers." Well maybe they don't care about BW. It's not a crime nor is it against the rules of this forum. You shouldn't come here to convert SC2 players to like BW. I get you guys are upset but that has nothing to do with SC2 players here. Point 1: This is a Starcraft forum. Not a BW forum or an SC2 forum. I've been here since it was BW only. Point 2: This is the Broodwar section. Hence, if anything, this is closer to a BW forum than a SC2 forum. 1+2 = your opening is wrong. Point 3: This is the BW section. People who do not give respect to BW pros don't have a place here. Point 4: People who don't care about BW shouldn't go on a BW section to troll BW fans. That is against the rules of the forum. 3+4 = your second section is wrong. Point 5: BW fans come to the BW section to talk about BW, how awesome it is and how much they love everything about it since it is the best...RTS...ever. Talk of "converting" is really just a collection of people super-passionate about BW that have been following it for years, at their "e-home", talking like they usually do. Point 6: We loved TL before SC2. We didn't "come here" to convert SC2 players. We were here way before you. 5+6: your ending paragraph is wrong. ... Now, that we got that out of the way, I think SC2 should stay out of PL, it would be the new 2v2. While it would be cute and sometimes even awesome, it is not the point of the PL as a contest of BW greatness.
this is the SC2 section bro.
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@Kazius That's what I'm talking about. The gist of my comment was the same, although less harsh and without the hipster thing.
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On October 30 2011 19:23 Spidinko wrote:
Well I think it's because it's a good news for SC2 players. New pro scene coming to their game, more storylines and everything. It's really good for SC2.
Let's take fanclub threads for example. You can go to Idra's thread and say I hope he wins/ I hope his opponent loses. Going there to say Idra is a rager/bad player/etc is wrong.
Imo there should be BW version of this thread in BW section and maybe then people will stop fighting each other.
I think there is a thread in the BW section. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=277093
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On October 30 2011 19:28 Suisen wrote:
Too bad that it seems now that Blizzard will finally allow Kespa to run SC2 tournaments.
Blizzard's refusal to let Kespa do SC2 was what kept SC BW alive and did extreme damage to the SC2 esports scene in Korea.
I would have liked to see Blizzard keep down their own game (incompetence much?) so Kespa could continue with their game SC BW for a bit longer.
Now that Kespa teams start with SC2, SC BW will soon disappear and everything in SC2 will change. You thought you were on the no.1 SC2 team? Well, maybe now you are the no.5 best team.
It's going to take some time for them to catch up. Even more so if the Kespa teams can't recruit current top SC2 players and have to discover a lot of stuff on their own. But once they do they have the talent, the teamwork, the discipline and the infrastructure.
Big question is what will happen to tv ratings once SC BW gets phased out and the novelty of SC2 is over.
Why should the novelty of SC2 be over?
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On October 30 2011 17:12 Dante08 wrote:
Give SC2 a chance, it can be pretty exciting. Everytime I see a bunch of Colossus killing stuff or marauders kiting zealots I scream like a little girl. Massing roaches is quite fun to watch as well. I think this poster was being sarcastic and a bunch of replies didn't get it. If so, high 5 bro, wp.
edit: I disagree with the premise that the posters here are either "SC2 fans" or "BW fans". Some, if not the most TL'ers, like and enjoy both games.
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On October 30 2011 19:08 TheAntZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 18:35 Spidinko wrote:
This thread is looking sort of like this:
SC2 fans: "Give sc2 a try. It's got a lot of potential plus there are many great things in the game such as .."
BW fans: "Lol nope. BW is the best. SC2 sucks."
I know people are emotional about it but this isn't really a place to flame the other game. If you don't like it, don't play it. You don't have to come to SC2 forum to tell SC2 players that your game is better. I think its also a bit like BW fans: Man I hope the thing I like watching doesnt die, because i dont want to watch something new and shiny SC2 fans: lol i hope bw dies and players i never even watched working their art can transition over to my game because my game has BETTER GRAPHICS! Dude what? The sc1 queen was a pretty bad unit in most situations. The new queen design even looks better
I would just like it if the BW fans could not express their pain by posting BW>SC2, SC2 is just a-move, all sc2 units are worse than Bw units, SC2 requires no skill,... .
I am not saying all of the BW fans do this, but in this thread many did this.
I see few people attacking BW, many SC2 fans do not care about BW, but i see much fewer attacking it, except as a response to a posting where somebody attacks SC2. It could be my perspective that leads to this perception, but to me it seems this way.
Edit: Sorry, I read the posting below me.
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This is really a good thing in my book. I'm so sick of all the BW talk and whine on this site. Hopefully, in the near future, we'll all talk about Starcraf 2 together.
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On October 30 2011 20:56 SlaveboyZerg wrote:
This is really a good thing in my book. I'm so sick of all the BW talk and whine on this site. Hopefully, in the near future, we'll all talk about Starcraf 2 together.
Dude, what? Personally, I like playing SC2 more (because I'm bad), but BW is still probably a better game for competitive play at the moment. It takes more skill to play well, and is better balanced. BW came first, and is probably always going to have some place on this site, even if SC2 becomes a better competitive game with the expansions.
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On October 30 2011 19:28 Suisen wrote:
Blizzard's refusal to let Kespa do SC2 was what kept SC BW alive and did extreme damage to the SC2 esports scene in Korea.
I would have liked to see Blizzard keep down their own game (incompetence much?) so Kespa could continue with their game SC BW for a bit longer.
Now that Kespa teams start with SC2, SC BW will soon disappear and everything in SC2 will change. You thought you were on the no.1 SC2 team? Well, maybe now you are the no.5 best team.
How come people saying "boy I hope some of them come play SC2, it'll make this thing I love big and awesome with better players etc" get blasted by the BW community, who then have people who say "Boy I'm so glad SC2 has been doing so badly because I like BW more so I hope Blizzard continue to restrain SC2 from being popular" ? Double standards much?
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On October 30 2011 21:11 IMABUNNEH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 30 2011 19:28 Suisen wrote:
Blizzard's refusal to let Kespa do SC2 was what kept SC BW alive and did extreme damage to the SC2 esports scene in Korea.
I would have liked to see Blizzard keep down their own game (incompetence much?) so Kespa could continue with their game SC BW for a bit longer.
Now that Kespa teams start with SC2, SC BW will soon disappear and everything in SC2 will change. You thought you were on the no.1 SC2 team? Well, maybe now you are the no.5 best team.
How come people saying "boy I hope some of them come play SC2, it'll make this thing I love big and awesome with better players etc" get blasted by the BW community, who then have people who say "Boy I'm so glad SC2 has been doing so badly because I like BW more so I hope Blizzard continue to restrain SC2 from being popular" ? Double standards much?
But dude, SC2 is just riding the success of BW, the perfect game, designed purely to manipulate idiots into giving Activision money. Don't you know anything? Gosh.
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