While I'm sure that's all it takes, you've got to put into perspective studio costs & staff costs for those extra 2 days a week, and from what I understand from the Korean SC2 scene, it's not exactly bustling like it should be.

Elurie

4716 Posts

October 28 2011 06:15 GMT

#402

On October 28 2011 13:18 Cel.erity wrote:
So please, GOM, please at least allow Tastosis to cast the Up & Down Matches (which will still give them less airtime than the Code A casters in the current format), if not also the Code A Ro24. Tastosis should be casting around 66% of the games in GSL, not 25% as they are set up to do currently.

Are you sure they are not allowed to cast Up/Downs?

Falling

Canada11363 Posts

October 28 2011 06:16 GMT

#403

On October 28 2011 08:11 Adreme wrote:

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If the group stages were Bo3 that would be 10 Bo3 a night. That is an obscene amount of games to watch and commentate.

Well the obvious solution to that is to spread out the GSL tournament itself so that you're not doing that many Bo3, but I can understand that they can't do that right away. however, I'm afraid we're going to see a bunch of terrible upsets until they can implement Best of 3's all along the Code S.

Drake

Germany6146 Posts

October 28 2011 06:22 GMT

#404

On October 28 2011 11:10 Ownos wrote:
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

too complicated.

This could easily be simplified if they just wanted to freshen up the murkey waters of Code S (yaaay no more people like FD/Tester/HongUn clinging to their spots FOREVER).

i cant understand all this posts

its like the easiest system i ever see after i look at picture
you see arrows where player go and can go to

why simplify that ? simply would only be like 64 player go top32 next last 32 out etc

thats boring

this system is really easy to understand i think and seeing poll over 9/10 people understand it, thats nice

you guys tend to crit everything new of fresh, instead of test and like it !
more drama more pressure more FUN!

Cel.erity

United States4890 Posts

October 28 2011 06:23 GMT

#405

On October 28 2011 15:15 Elurie wrote:

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Are you sure they are not allowed to cast Up/Downs?

GOM makes the schedule and they just follow it. GOM pays Tastosis more, so they try to use the Code A casters whenever possible to save money. I believe that is the primary reason, but obviously I don't have all the facts. All I know is less Tastosis is bad for the GSL in terms of viewership and ticket purchases.

Edit: If you mean, am I sure they're not casting up/downs, no, I have no idea. I'm just making the plea.

Sea_Food

Finland1612 Posts

October 28 2011 06:27 GMT

#406

I dislike how it takes a shit load of work to get into code-S, then you loose 4 games out of your next 5, and you are in code B.

MonkSEA

Australia1227 Posts

October 28 2011 06:37 GMT

#407

On October 28 2011 15:27 Sea_Food wrote:
I dislike how it takes a shit load of work to get into code-S, then you loose 4 games out of your next 5, and you are in code B.

I like it, it punishes players for taking a casual approach to the game. Now Code S "since november" or whatever actually means something since it's easy to fall in/out of it.

Sigz

Canada86 Posts

October 28 2011 06:43 GMT

#408

Who got the spot that Sjow left or did they just get another player from the qualifier?

BrosephBrostar

United States445 Posts

October 28 2011 07:29 GMT

#409

This seems way more complicated than it needs to be. It also basically invalidates the tier structure they had set up. Code A is no longer a complete tournament and the Up/Down matches don't have players dropping down from Code S against those coming up from Code A anymore. If they want to keep this format they should at least change the names for everything.

Fubi

2228 Posts

October 28 2011 08:06 GMT

#410

On October 28 2011 15:11 MonkSEA wrote:

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It would only be for 2 weeks since only the group stages need those extra days. They can easily fit it around GSTL (or lack of it atm)

Hierarch

United States2197 Posts

October 28 2011 08:25 GMT

#411

I really dislike the Bo1 for "all" group stages

andrea20

Canada441 Posts

October 28 2011 08:45 GMT

#412

I made up a super-simplified version of the chart. Feel free to add it to the OP if you want.

[image loading]

Now people shouldn't be scared of the format anymore. :p

Kanil

United States1713 Posts

October 28 2011 08:50 GMT

#413

It seems a little odd to run what is effectively next seasons's dual/survivor tournament alongside this season's main tournament, but it's nice to see all the code S slots gone.

Still, cool.

Kahuna_5-0

Mexico14 Posts

October 28 2011 08:53 GMT

#414

This is gonna be nice, more dinamic and more fun :D

vertical101

Hong Kong311 Posts

October 28 2011 09:08 GMT

#415

i like the new format. even if you lose on the CodeA ro32 you have another chance to get in to the up&down, same for CodeA ro24.

Corrik

United States1416 Posts

October 28 2011 09:10 GMT

#416

Again, I wonder how this affects the prize pool. Theoretically this cuts the GSLs in half since it takes 2 months instead of 1 month now. Plus, Code S players getting top 32 obviously won't be getting paid. It is no wonder Code S players don't like the new format. They get paid potentially half as much due to the length of the tournaments and some would lose guaranteed money just for being in Code S.

firehand101

Australia3152 Posts

October 28 2011 09:16 GMT

#417

Has anyone seen the GSL fixed version, its so funny

Tsubbi

Germany7996 Posts

October 28 2011 09:28 GMT

#418

there is so much thought put into this, sounds like a very good format, only thing i would really like is if one code a guy got a shot at winning the whole thing, could make for some epic stories

VegaNZ

New Zealand317 Posts

October 28 2011 09:35 GMT

#419

I like the changes in principle, though think they are selling it short by cutting off code A early and not having a "champion".

My biggest fear is the R32 and R16 of code S, as the pressure is now going to be even more intense, we're going to see even more 1 base all-ins and I think the quality of the games is just generally bad.

Just don't want to see good players cheesed out. Sure, they'll get a bo3 chance in the R48 of Code A, but always makes me a bit sad when cheese/all-in strategies can decide it, rather than being part of a calculated risk in Bo3.

Anyway, interested to see it play out, it's certainly going to be a tense R32 in Code S!!

seiferoth10

3362 Posts

October 28 2011 09:36 GMT

#420

I like that it's more volatile, but I hate that you can go from S to B in one GSL. Potentially 8 Code S players have the chance to be knocked out in one GSL? That's TOO volatile imo.