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Elean
Profile Joined October 2010
689 Posts
October 27 2011 19:11 GMT
#281
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

No if you loose the Up& Downs, you go down to code B.

There are seeds for code A (probably MLG) and seed for Up & Downs.
pewpew444
Profile Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
October 27 2011 19:12 GMT
#282
Really confusing at first but I like how Code S won't be as stagnant anymore.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
October 27 2011 19:14 GMT
#283
On October 28 2011 03:48 Gamegene wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

awww, ic. that makes sense.

one concern i have still is that they are essentially qualifying for the next season of code s or a. so, how long do they have to stay in the country before they get the opportunity to make some real money?


tbh no foreigner has made any real money off GSL. they're in korea for korea, GSL is just a bonus.

apart from the chin right? he made a good amount of money (more than alot of the current Code S)
mewo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States221 Posts
October 27 2011 19:14 GMT
#284
I like the changes, and after understanding i feel more intelligent.

In retrospect, i should have solved world hunger with all the figuring shit out.
VirgilSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States6151 Posts
October 27 2011 19:16 GMT
#285
On October 28 2011 04:11 Elean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

No if you loose the Up& Downs, you go down to code B.

There are seeds for code A (probably MLG) and seed for Up & Downs.

Here, let me post an image so you can understand it properly.
[image loading]

If you lose in the Up & Downs you're in Code A next season.
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Rannasha
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2398 Posts
October 27 2011 19:16 GMT
#286
On October 28 2011 04:11 Elean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

No if you loose the Up& Downs, you go down to code B.

There are seeds for code A (probably MLG) and seed for Up & Downs.


Up&Downs have always been to decide between Code S and Code A. If you lose in the U&Ds, you drop down to Code A, if you win, you're in Code S.
Such flammable little insects!
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 27 2011 19:16 GMT
#287
On October 28 2011 04:11 Elean wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

No if you loose the Up& Downs, you go down to code B.

There are seeds for code A (probably MLG) and seed for Up & Downs.


No you don't. Only people who lose in the ro48 go down to code b.
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AJMcSpiffy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1154 Posts
October 27 2011 19:20 GMT
#288
This is a much better system I think. Gives the possibility for way more player turnover in Code S which is something that GSL has really needed for a while. Gonna make Code A even more exciting too, and put a ton more pressure on Code S players to really be the best of the best, which will hopefully result in even better games.
If the quarter was in your right hand, that would've been micro
GleaM
Profile Joined June 2011
United States207 Posts
October 27 2011 19:27 GMT
#289
I really like the fact that people can't just stay in Code S...

But I can't get behind the lack of Code A. I really liked Code A, and the top 8 was always a really great group of players that maybe aren't NesTea, or Terran for that matter (lulz). I don't know... I'm just gonna miss Code A.
crawlingchaos
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada2025 Posts
October 27 2011 19:32 GMT
#290
Very happy with these changes, even though it's all a little abstract at the moment. I like that it seems like the tournament is more "open," which accommodates the growing talent pool. Should also make for a lot of dramatic games, given the possibility of elimination for code S players now.

Also, that Choboo diagram just killed me LOL. He's probably not that far off either >.>
They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you've gotta ride it well, the world is full of kings and queens who blind your eyes and steal your dreams, it's heaven and hell, oh well.
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
October 27 2011 19:43 GMT
#291
Hopefully this will solve the issue that is GomTvT, and let other races in. With how the Code A qualifiers are going, we might actually get to see each race play every day instead of having some days of pure TvT.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
ImmortalTofu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1254 Posts
October 27 2011 19:47 GMT
#292
Hm... Like it but dislike the ro16 group stage :/
"Friendship ain't a business deal"
A x i o M
Profile Joined March 2011
United States78 Posts
October 27 2011 19:48 GMT
#293
Gomtv has outdone themselves. The new format should make it a lot less volatile. Less chances for someone to make one silly mistake and get kicked. I like it. ^^
"Get thee to a nunnery...dick." -Day[9] | "Sup son." -SelecT | “If anyone ever doubts your passion towards eSports, tell them you were here in 2011 at Blizzcon and watched the GSL Finals. Thank you very much. I love you all.” -Jun Kyu Park
grs
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany2339 Posts
October 27 2011 19:50 GMT
#294
Seems a pretty good change overall, The only thing I dislike is that there is no longer a Code A champion and Code A is just sort of a qualification for the next Code S.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
October 27 2011 19:54 GMT
#295
On October 28 2011 04:48 A x i o M wrote:
Gomtv has outdone themselves. The new format should make it a lot less volatile. Less chances for someone to make one silly mistake and get kicked. I like it. ^^


I actually think there is more of a chance of this happening, alot more Bo1 and small mistakes can add up.

Definitely enjoy the high turn over though, more chances for unknowns and up and comers to prove themselves. Will miss the old format but, change is nice
stupidhydro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States216 Posts
October 27 2011 19:55 GMT
#296
I like that code s is harder to retain but I don't like that in the course of one tournament you can go from code s to code b. I like the idea to get new blood into code s without up and down matches but getting fourth in your code s group and losing one best of three and you're suddenly in code b seems harsh.
croupier
Profile Joined July 2010
United States92 Posts
October 27 2011 20:08 GMT
#297
I don't see anything about how the payout will be now with this new system. Is that information available somewhere? I'd be interested to see it.
Fighter
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1531 Posts
October 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#298
How will the group stages work exactly? Historically, the ro32 group stages in Code S were bo1 between each player. Will it still be like that?

I don't mind that so much for the first round in code S, but it feels too volatile for the ro16.
For Aiur???
LXR
Profile Joined June 2011
357 Posts
October 27 2011 20:11 GMT
#299
Hmm it's kind of like MLG. The better you do in Codes S. before you lose determines how far in the bracket you are for Code A. Then the better you do in code A the higher your chances are to make it into code S though up/down or just straight advancing. Code A is like the loser bracket of the championship bracket.
MerlinAthrawes
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 22:19:28
October 27 2011 20:12 GMT
#300
So is this what we are all assuming for the play format? I could see the Round of 24 Code S Qualification being a best of 5 I suppose.

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