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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3752 Posts
October 27 2011 18:37 GMT
#261
On October 28 2011 03:30 Leifish wrote:
Wow, 2 Code S spots for MLG now?

Providence is going to get pretty intense.

Not really
Fanatic-Templar
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada5819 Posts
October 27 2011 18:38 GMT
#262
Sounds cool and promising, my only regret is that we have more group stages in Code S. Overall a good change, I think.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 27 2011 18:39 GMT
#263
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
October 27 2011 18:40 GMT
#264
What exactly is the idea of seeding foreigners into the up and downs already? It doesn't seem right at all. Give them code A seeds sure but to let them essentially skip the first round is just catering too much to them.
Lamphead
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada241 Posts
October 27 2011 18:41 GMT
#265
this might be TOO much turnover, a bad pool and a bad matchup means you go from code S to code B..
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Vehemus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States586 Posts
October 27 2011 18:42 GMT
#266
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.
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DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
October 27 2011 18:42 GMT
#267
Group Stage being BO3, that's a LOT of matches.

Somehow Code A became some sort of "loser bracket" for Code S wich helps to really define those from Code A that deserve to go right away to Code S and solves many unfair situations.

Now it's going to be hard to stay in Code S since there are 22 chances to get there from Code A + Up/Down Matches.

What about the prices for the new season ?
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tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
October 27 2011 18:45 GMT
#268
Holy crap I just realized that Code S will be played at an earlier time...no more staying up until 4am !!! :DDD
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
October 27 2011 18:46 GMT
#269
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

awww, ic. that makes sense.

one concern i have still is that they are essentially qualifying for the next season of code s or a. so, how long do they have to stay in the country before they get the opportunity to make some real money?
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
October 27 2011 18:47 GMT
#270
Inspired by MLG :D Losers bracket yo! :D
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Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 27 2011 18:48 GMT
#271
On October 28 2011 03:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

awww, ic. that makes sense.

one concern i have still is that they are essentially qualifying for the next season of code s or a. so, how long do they have to stay in the country before they get the opportunity to make some real money?


tbh no foreigner has made any real money off GSL. they're in korea for korea, GSL is just a bonus.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
darkcloud8282
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada776 Posts
October 27 2011 18:49 GMT
#272
On October 28 2011 03:41 Lamphead wrote:
this might be TOO much turnover, a bad pool and a bad matchup means you go from code S to code B..

Considering it's group play with a BO3, you can't really blame luck if you can't even place 3rd in the group..
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
October 27 2011 18:49 GMT
#273
Op should put in bold letters at the top that group play is still bo1 for this season and might change next year.
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Tuskon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States86 Posts
October 27 2011 18:52 GMT
#274
I like the new system, but they really should get rid of the whole "Code A" "Code S" thing, since it doesn't mean squat anymore.
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 18:57:21
October 27 2011 18:55 GMT
#275
On October 28 2011 03:46 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 03:42 Vehemus wrote:
On October 28 2011 03:39 dAPhREAk wrote:
am i reading this correctly?

for foreigners qualifying through MLG, etc., they are no longer offered a spot in the tournament, but rather have to qualify through the up and down matches? so, if you get a spot through MLG, go to Korea and lose in the up and downs, you never even get the opportunity to play in the real tournament? is that correct?

thats pretty jacked up in my opinion. korean invites auto get put in group stages for MLG, but foreigners only get the opportunity to qualify for GSL. seems to me that there will be even less incentive for foreigners going to korea.

also, how long between up and down matches and the next code s? if foreigner wins the up and down, does he then have to stay X weeks before he gets to play in the next tournament?

seems like koreans are getting the better bargain on the MLG-GSL exchange.


No. If you lose in the Up & Downs you go down to Code A.

The only thing that's changed is that instead of automatically playing in Code A, you play a few matches to determine whether you get to play in Code S or Code A.

awww, ic. that makes sense.

one concern i have still is that they are essentially qualifying for the next season of code s or a. so, how long do they have to stay in the country before they get the opportunity to make some real money?


Just the pre-season. Now The Up&Down are the week after the Code S finals, so one or two weeks before next GSL.
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
October 27 2011 18:55 GMT
#276
This seems like a pretty cool new format, I like it.

Oh, and thanks for the explanation.
QNdie
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland210 Posts
October 27 2011 18:59 GMT
#277
I'm not sure I like it... It's even more unforgiving than the previous seasons.
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
October 27 2011 19:02 GMT
#278
Interesting.. Was pretty confused about this... but thanks for clearing it up!
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Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 19:08:12
October 27 2011 19:06 GMT
#279
I like it, i'm just sad that Code A doesnt have a Final anymore, i have always enjoyed it thus far!
it wouldn't hurt anybody to have the Code A Bracket be played out till the end and have some Prizes for it...


edit: oh, and its pretty harsh that you can be kicked out by having a tough group and a bad matchup or bad Luck on your opponent, and then be stuck in Code B... but on the other hand that guarantees more player rotation (i hope)
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
October 27 2011 19:09 GMT
#280
Let's hope for a good GSL finals now.
MMA vs MVP was nice but almost every Code A finals has been better.
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