• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 21:37
CET 03:37
KST 11:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
[D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Username Change Request - Toxickej Kapr Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
Starcraft 2 Advance [D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
SC4ALL II Brood War Complete Invited Player Lineup Rollback Netcode in Brood War BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Sagi.gg Launcher Released Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings)
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [Mixed-Gender CK] Rush+4 vs Best+4 [BSL23] RO24 Group F - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Deus Ex 3!? Nintendo Switch Thread Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 23671 users

The New GSL Format Explained - Page 17

Forum Index > SC2 General
465 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 24 Next All
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
October 27 2011 21:34 GMT
#321
-.- Wow that just hurt my brain to read lawl... I think I like it, but time will tell if it works well
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
October 27 2011 21:37 GMT
#322
I'm surprised so many people are in love with the idea of people being completely washed out of televised GSL matches, even when starting from Code A, and yet they still maintain the bo1 format in early stages of Code S. If there are some wonky matchups, there is no doubt that some fantastic players will get wiped out quite quickly. Players like Nestea and MVP have lost in the group stages before.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
October 27 2011 21:38 GMT
#323
HAHAHA! I loved the spoiler at the end! Pretty hilarious, yet so true.

I'm liking the new GSL format. It integrates Code S and Code A a little bit better.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 27 2011 21:45 GMT
#324
So the twitter post says "code s group matches Bo1". That includes the second stage of group matches as well, the Ro16? With only 4 groups instead of 8 I hope they do Bo3 at that point.
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
October 27 2011 21:46 GMT
#325
On October 28 2011 01:59 Infenwe wrote:
My problem with the GSL format has always been that someone who gets knocked out of Code A is with overwhelming probability never heard from again because qualifying is (a) hard as nails and (b) subject to huge amounts of variance.


The same people go far in the code B qualifiers over and over again. (Z)JookTo is an example of how your claim is wrong; he's in code A now. A while ago, he was the lowest code S seed coming out of the 2010 opens and subsequently embarrassed out of the GSL. So it's possible to come back.
blackbrrd
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway477 Posts
October 27 2011 21:51 GMT
#326
Looking at Code A there is some interesting parts.

RO32 - 24 from Code A, 8 from Code S. At least 16 Code A players can get to the next round without meeting a Code S player.

RO24 - 16 players from Code A/S. At least 8 players from Code A/S don't have to meet a Code S player.

I wonder how they will pick who plays a Code S player. :p
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 27 2011 21:53 GMT
#327
On October 28 2011 06:46 andrea20 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 01:59 Infenwe wrote:
My problem with the GSL format has always been that someone who gets knocked out of Code A is with overwhelming probability never heard from again because qualifying is (a) hard as nails and (b) subject to huge amounts of variance.


The same people go far in the code B qualifiers over and over again. (Z)JookTo is an example of how your claim is wrong; he's in code A now. A while ago, he was the lowest code S seed coming out of the 2010 opens and subsequently embarrassed out of the GSL. So it's possible to come back.


MC coming back straight into code S? Boxer coming back as well? Yeah it's hard, but so was passing a courage tournament and getting into BW. Nobody ever said it should be easy to be a progamer and variance is a good thing so we don't have the race spread like we do.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 27 2011 21:55 GMT
#328
On October 28 2011 06:53 Lunares wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 06:46 andrea20 wrote:
On October 28 2011 01:59 Infenwe wrote:
My problem with the GSL format has always been that someone who gets knocked out of Code A is with overwhelming probability never heard from again because qualifying is (a) hard as nails and (b) subject to huge amounts of variance.


The same people go far in the code B qualifiers over and over again. (Z)JookTo is an example of how your claim is wrong; he's in code A now. A while ago, he was the lowest code S seed coming out of the 2010 opens and subsequently embarrassed out of the GSL. So it's possible to come back.


MC coming back straight into code S? Boxer coming back as well? Yeah it's hard, but so was passing a courage tournament and getting into BW. Nobody ever said it should be easy to be a progamer and variance is a good thing so we don't have the race spread like we do.


MC coming back had nothing to do with qualifiers. He won (came in 2nd) the code S seed at MLG and took it.
Lunares
Profile Joined May 2010
United States909 Posts
October 27 2011 21:57 GMT
#329
On October 28 2011 06:55 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 06:53 Lunares wrote:
On October 28 2011 06:46 andrea20 wrote:
On October 28 2011 01:59 Infenwe wrote:
My problem with the GSL format has always been that someone who gets knocked out of Code A is with overwhelming probability never heard from again because qualifying is (a) hard as nails and (b) subject to huge amounts of variance.


The same people go far in the code B qualifiers over and over again. (Z)JookTo is an example of how your claim is wrong; he's in code A now. A while ago, he was the lowest code S seed coming out of the 2010 opens and subsequently embarrassed out of the GSL. So it's possible to come back.


MC coming back straight into code S? Boxer coming back as well? Yeah it's hard, but so was passing a courage tournament and getting into BW. Nobody ever said it should be easy to be a progamer and variance is a good thing so we don't have the race spread like we do.


MC coming back had nothing to do with qualifiers. He won (came in 2nd) the code S seed at MLG and took it.


Having multiple ways to come back into Code S/A is exactly my point. Yes the qualifiers are hard. But there are other ways (That are equally hard imo) that people can go do, e.g. the ESV korean weeklies and MLG.
andrea20
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada441 Posts
October 27 2011 21:59 GMT
#330
On October 28 2011 06:45 Lunares wrote:
So the twitter post says "code s group matches Bo1". That includes the second stage of group matches as well, the Ro16? With only 4 groups instead of 8 I hope they do Bo3 at that point.


When you really think about it, the group stages ARE Bo3, just with different players and less preparation. 2 wins before 2 losses advances a player, just like a regular Bo3.
theBOOCH
Profile Joined November 2010
United States832 Posts
October 27 2011 22:06 GMT
#331
I like some aspects of it, like how the seeding into code a works, but I still don't think it addresses the fundamental flaws in the code a/code a qualification process.
If all you're offering is Dos Equis, I will stay thirsty thank you very much.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
October 27 2011 22:09 GMT
#332
I like the way that in a sense Code A works as a losers bracket and the possibility of a higher turn over rate in Code S
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
October 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#333
On October 28 2011 03:06 Clefairy wrote:
Code A Bracket:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]

[image loading]


Code S Group A 4th vs IM_MinSeok

MVPKeen vs TSLRevival

iSCrazymoving vs Liquid`Hero

Code S Group B 4th vs MVPGuineaPig

ST_Superstar vs SlayerSBrown

ST_Fruitdealer vs SlayerSAlicia

Code S Group C 4th vs CreatorPrime

oGsTOP vs ST_Parting

NsHsTassadar vs DignitasSelect

Code S Group D 4th vs oGsCezanne

MVPGenius vs TSLSymbol

NsHsSage vs oGsFin (fOrGG)

Code S Group E 4th vs ST_Rainbow

TSL_JYP vs Quantic Sase

FXOLucky vs DignitasNaniwa

Code S Group F 4th vs Soccer

HongunPrime vs oGsLuvsic

MVPNoblesse vs oGsInca

Code S Group G 4th vs oGsVines

CheckPrime vs ST_Squirtle

MVPMonster vs oGsJookto

Code S Group H 4th vs oGsTheSTC

MVPDream vs SlayerSBoxer

oGsZenio vs (Teamless) Jung Min Ho

Poor Sage. (or ForGG). Also didn't Naniwa play Lucky last season as well?
TI4 Champions: EE-Sama | B7-God | A-God_2000 | Kappa Lord | pieliedie
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 27 2011 22:14 GMT
#334
Nooooo, ForGG is against Sage during the first round of Code A

My heart is torn asunder like the lands of Azeroth during the Cataclysm.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
October 27 2011 22:18 GMT
#335
Finally, GSL's format is getting sufficiently confusing for it to deserve the title of the premier tournament for it's game. Now it truly can stand on par with the 2007-2008 OSL system w/OSC, ODT, and OSL.

And as in the old days, like 10 of us will actually understand it.
Moderator
Wuster
Profile Joined May 2011
1974 Posts
October 27 2011 22:19 GMT
#336
On October 28 2011 06:37 Corrupted wrote:
I'm surprised so many people are in love with the idea of people being completely washed out of televised GSL matches, even when starting from Code A, and yet they still maintain the bo1 format in early stages of Code S. If there are some wonky matchups, there is no doubt that some fantastic players will get wiped out quite quickly. Players like Nestea and MVP have lost in the group stages before.


I'm mixed on the new format; I like it in principle, but this is a big sticking point for me as well.

Pros
Code S dregs get filtered out even faster
Code A players have more ways into Code S
In turn this means unlucky Code S players have an easier chance getting back in (unlike Leenock)
Code A expanded, which means Code B is less brutal

Cons
Code A isn't a real tournament anymore...
Code A bracket draws are even more variable with a small percentage of Code S players being thrown in the first 2 rounds
Code S group stages are still a Bo1 (or homeless man's Bo3 if you prefer)

I really don't now what I think yet, will have to wait until GSL November is over to decide.
Jacob666
Profile Joined January 2011
United States285 Posts
October 27 2011 22:21 GMT
#337
How is the money going to be distributed? Now instead of paying 32 to finals of code s and code a it's 3 rounds of code a and Ro8 and on in code s. Any word on this?
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
October 27 2011 22:24 GMT
#338
This is far better. Now maintaining Code S actually means something.
Broodwar and Stork forever! List of BW players with most Ro16, Ro8: http://tinyurl.com/BWRo16-Ro8
MerlinAthrawes
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3 Posts
October 27 2011 22:35 GMT
#339
Poll: Would you prefer to see Code S group play Best of 3s?

Yes (38)
 
93%

No (3)
 
7%

41 total votes

Your vote: Would you prefer to see Code S group play Best of 3s?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No

Remfire
Profile Joined October 2010
492 Posts
October 27 2011 22:37 GMT
#340
I really like the code S play before code A I think this ads a lot of diversity and as stated previously it helps cycle players for I feel so players whom are not preforming will be take out rather then taking a long time.
Prev 1 15 16 17 18 19 24 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
08:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #21
CranKy Ducklings51
CranKy Ducklings SOOP28
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RuFF_SC2 135
EnDerr 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Rain 3362
GuemChi 2015
Artosis 550
Leta 194
ProTech162
Force[name] 7
Dota 2
monkeys_forever633
PGG 358
League of Legends
Doublelift5592
Counter-Strike
taco 619
Other Games
summit1g8646
singsing1314
Day[9].tv931
Coldzera 869
fl0m768
JimRising 564
XaKoH 294
C9.Mang0256
Maynarde105
ViBE73
NeuroSwarm66
Fuzer 24
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV144
Counter-Strike
PGL117
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 12
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta34
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• Day9tv931
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 8h
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
1d 14h
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
1d 16h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
IPSL
2 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-04
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026

Upcoming

Sector 951
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.