I can't really say I like the change since I feel it is too easy to drop out of code-S now, and code-A isn't really a separate tournament to be won anymore. However, my mind can still be changed depending on how the next GSL works out, and I know I'm in the minority~ I know most people want this, so I guess I'm happy they gave people what they wanted. GomTV has been awesome like that, kudos to them!

MaV_gGSC

Canada1345 Posts

October 27 2011 22:47 GMT

#345

Thanks for this. Makes a lot of sense now

LuciferSC

Canada535 Posts

October 27 2011 22:47 GMT

#346

Code S/Code A is going to become a lot more turbulent now. I like it =)

At the same time though, I really hope MBC Game or other stations will get involved & create more major tournies for SC2. (like how they had MSL, OSL, etc for BW)

That'll create more opportunities for more players to show off what they have, w/o getting stuck in that advancement stuff.

Onox

United States1072 Posts

October 27 2011 22:55 GMT

#347

On October 28 2011 07:47 LuciferSC wrote:
Code S/Code A is going to become a lot more turbulent now. I like it =)

At the same time though, I really hope MBC Game or other stations will get involved & create more major tournies for SC2. (like how they had MSL, OSL, etc for BW)

That'll create more opportunities for more players to show off what they have, w/o getting stuck in that advancement stuff.

MBC what? @_@ lol.

tns

1054 Posts

October 27 2011 23:05 GMT

#348

how sase and naniwa managed to get MLG seed?

SeeDLiNg

United States690 Posts

October 27 2011 23:06 GMT

#349

On October 27 2011 18:32 Rannasha wrote:

Even more simplified explanation thanks to Choboo (Warning: sarcasm alert!)
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This made me laugh so hard I got kicked out of class
thank you

amazingoopah

United States1925 Posts

October 27 2011 23:06 GMT

#350

now I wonder GOM will handle the MLG slots... as far as I can see, they've said nothing about them regarding this change in format. That code A slot will be nearly worthless now if they are only seeded into the new up/down matches (not that they were worth that much to begin with, since Code A is hella tough and will be more so after this)

Overall, I applaud this attempt by GOM to try to shake up the sclerotic nature of Code S where going 1-2 could keep you in code S forever (looking at you ensnare...). This will give up and comers a shot at coming up further up the ranks. Only thing I hate is that they refuse to include bo3 in Code S. I know they have included it for Code A but would much rather see it in code S to be honest. I like the possibility of turnover but at least it shouldn't be dependent on fewer games.

Adreme

United States5574 Posts

October 27 2011 23:11 GMT

#351

On October 28 2011 07:45 Stijx wrote:

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That option is there... just don't press anything.
Also, Code S being Bo1? I can't even find words to describe how against that I am...

If the group stages were Bo3 that would be 10 Bo3 a night. That is an obscene amount of games to watch and commentate.

Packawana

United States1081 Posts

October 27 2011 23:14 GMT

#352

Wait, so what are these foreigner Up and Down seeds? That's the only part that seems to confuse me.

j0ker

275 Posts

October 27 2011 23:16 GMT

#353

this looks good except for the fact that the ro32 is still bo1 and incredibly volatile.

Fig

United States1324 Posts

October 27 2011 23:19 GMT

#354

This is amazing! What a great way to shake things up! The only thing I would change is to get rid of the second code S group stage and keep it as a 1v1 BO3. There is no need to make it a group, since the 3rd and 4th place players end up in the same place. Why not just do BO3s and losers go down?

Ouga

Finland645 Posts

October 27 2011 23:36 GMT

#355

At first looked terrible, but now I start to like it a lot. If indeed code S ro32 (and ro16?) are bo3s, this should be awesome. I wonder where the time comes from, doesn't this make tons more games? Is season going to last longer, or more casting days or what?

RaiKageRyu

Canada4773 Posts

October 27 2011 23:37 GMT

#356

Wow, it seems like they thought really hard on how to produce a fast turnover rate system that rewards the higher skilled player. Complicated enough to rival MLG.

Overall I like it, but the one main aspect I don't like is the second tier group stage of Code S. Group stages are nice in the beginning but I don't want to see those who come out of groups to be thrown into another group. I like to see brackets matched up instantly when they come out of a bracket. Remember the BEST GSL DAY that occurred in this last GSL in the first part of the Ro16? Bo3 between Code S players are more fun to watch than another group stage.

I think I understand why perhaps. It's not cause to save time as both Ro16 group or Bo3 takes the same amount of time but it does avoid a player getting eliminated in Ro16 by meeting their bad matchup or nemesis. e.g. Polt>MMA

Another aspect I don't like is opening another seed for international players. Sorry, I didn't like the single seed from previous seasons. It feels too much like a shortcut. I don't think foreigners deserve being seeded into Code S no matter what tournament they win and I feel it's almost cheating for a Korean to bypass the hells of up and down into Code S.

amazingoopah

United States1925 Posts

October 27 2011 23:40 GMT

#357

On October 28 2011 08:36 Ouga wrote:
At first looked terrible, but now I start to like it a lot. If indeed code S ro32 (and ro16?) are bo3s, this should be awesome. I wonder where the time comes from, doesn't this make tons more games? Is season going to last longer, or more casting days or what?

mr chae has already said in twitter code S will remain best of 1.

kiniko

Canada163 Posts

October 27 2011 23:51 GMT

#358

now even ro16 is bo1, that is just stupid imo. I was getting bored of the TvT finals so i had already decided not to get a code s pass this season even though I have gotten a pass for everything gom had to offer until now, and this change just reinforces my previous decision of taking a break from gom until HOTS.

Wren

United States745 Posts

October 27 2011 23:55 GMT

#359

On October 28 2011 03:06 Clefairy wrote:
Code A Bracket:
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Code S Group A 4th vs IM_MinSeok

MVPKeen vs TSLRevival

iSCrazymoving vs Liquid`Hero

Code S Group B 4th vs MVPGuineaPig

ST_Superstar vs SlayerSBrown

ST_Fruitdealer vs SlayerSAlicia

Code S Group C 4th vs CreatorPrime

oGsTOP vs ST_Parting

NsHsTassadar vs DignitasSelect

Code S Group D 4th vs oGsCezanne

MVPGenius vs TSLSymbol

NsHsSage vs oGsFin (fOrGG)

Code S Group E 4th vs ST_Rainbow

TSL_JYP vs Quantic Sase

FXOLucky vs DignitasNaniwa

Code S Group F 4th vs Soccer

HongunPrime vs oGsLuvsic

MVPNoblesse vs oGsInca

Code S Group G 4th vs oGsVines

CheckPrime vs ST_Squirtle

MVPMonster vs oGsJookto

Code S Group H 4th vs oGsTheSTC

MVPDream vs SlayerSBoxer

oGsZenio vs (Teamless) Jung Min Ho

Brackets now posted on Liquipedia: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_November/Code_A#Full_Bracket

Huge props to Pholon for creating bracket templates on the fly!