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jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
October 10 2011 18:58 GMT
#81
edit op?

he plans on going back to korea after couple of foreign tournaments.
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
October 10 2011 18:59 GMT
#82
maybe meant high masters? instead of high diamonds?
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
krisss
Profile Joined November 2010
Luxembourg305 Posts
October 10 2011 19:05 GMT
#83
On October 11 2011 03:11 Zic wrote:
I'm getting tired of foreigners coming to Korea for a single GSL season and then leaving right after.


Funny how fast a player owes the community something. I mean its not like they live with complete strangers all the time long, with language barriers, "bad" accomodation, etc. But hey, they get a cup of rice everyday and have a chance to win 1000 dollars once a month, when their proving that their better than all the koreans who train 14 hours a day.

Every single player going to Korea is doing this because he loves esports. I mean its a huge thing, and they deserve to get some respect for going to korea at the first place. So please dont fukkin blame them for coming back after 1 (2?) months..
life is like fighting a dinosaur.. it's pretty hard.
CookieMaker
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada880 Posts
October 10 2011 19:05 GMT
#84
On October 11 2011 03:13 StuartLove wrote:
was woundered why he even went there.

compared to naniwa and sase he seems pretty bad.


You're part of like the 95% of people who say that, then the next MLG rolls around and people are all like "OH RIGHT Sjow nerdstomps errrrrrday"

everybody's acting like they forgot about d- sjow


Micro your Macro
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
October 10 2011 19:06 GMT
#85
On October 11 2011 03:11 Zic wrote:
I'm getting tired of foreigners coming to Korea for a single GSL season and then leaving right after.


And they (foreigners) are probably tired of going to Korea to play only in GSL...
aka Wardo
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
October 10 2011 19:07 GMT
#86
I wish he would have stayed there for a little while more :[
But Sjow knows best! <3
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Hiroruby
Profile Joined November 2010
United States43 Posts
October 10 2011 19:07 GMT
#87
On October 11 2011 03:39 Alejandrisha wrote:
zzzzzz
what's the point of going for a month or 2?? prob wasn't happy so I understand that I guess :/


I think IdrA only plans on going for a month or two, alot of practice can be accomplished in that time. I think in that time you can get an adequate grasp of the Korean metagame, and then bring it back to the International scene and apply it inside of the tournaments here. From sjows point of view, I completely understand.

Even the top foreigners arn't going to Korea and expecting to win the GSL, so as soon as you feel you have learned enough to be successful, it is time to show off your new skills. On that note I don't think happiness has too much part in the decision, but even if it does, he will still retain everything he picked up while he was there.

Good luck Sjow.
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
October 10 2011 19:08 GMT
#88
I always like SjoW and his mindset, he learned some new good things over there that he will take home.
Flying, sOs, free, Light, Soulkey & ZerO
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
October 10 2011 19:09 GMT
#89
On October 11 2011 03:14 Zic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:11 Zic wrote:
I'm getting tired of foreigners coming to Korea for a single GSL season and then leaving right after.


It's almost as if travelling to a foreign country where you don't speak the language and living there is a hard transition or something.


But why even go in the first place if you're not going to stay for very long?

You definitely improve staying there. Think of Fenix and how much noticeably better he got from the beginning of his stay and more recently.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
October 10 2011 19:09 GMT
#90
I wouldn't blame GSL for eliminating foreigner spots for people who just bail at the last minute.
carloselcoco
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2302 Posts
October 10 2011 19:09 GMT
#91
Is anyone else anticipating the beta for this year? It is really surprising how they are teasing us like this with completed new units xD
http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/296431601 <------Suscribe! Casts in Spanish :) |||| http://www.twitch.tv/carloselcoco/b/300285215<----- CSL: Before Sunday! Episode 3!
BryanSC
Profile Joined October 2010
United States455 Posts
October 10 2011 19:10 GMT
#92
So I guess the Liquid guys and a few other foreigners are the only individuals who are really taking Korea seriously and not treating it like some vacation. It's a shame that Sjow wasted a Code A spot and makes the foreigner community look bad in the eyes of GSL. It's almost to the point where GSL should reconsider giving out Code A spots to foreigners because there just taking up space now. And for the people who say, "well why don't you do it and see how hard it is," being a progamer is not my livelihood and profession, and its a shame that people like Naniwa, Huk, and Jinro, no matter what you think of their skill, are the big minority who are willing to push and deal with the inconveniences and hardships that come with having to live in an entirely new country.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13010 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 19:12:03
October 10 2011 19:10 GMT
#93
On October 11 2011 04:05 krisss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:11 Zic wrote:
I'm getting tired of foreigners coming to Korea for a single GSL season and then leaving right after.


Funny how fast a player owes the community something. I mean its not like they live with complete strangers all the time long, with language barriers, "bad" accomodation, etc. But hey, they get a cup of rice everyday and have a chance to win 1000 dollars once a month, when their proving that their better than all the koreans who train 14 hours a day.

Every single player going to Korea is doing this because he loves esports. I mean its a huge thing, and they deserve to get some respect for going to korea at the first place. So please dont fukkin blame them for coming back after 1 (2?) months..

It's perfectly fine that you don't want to live in korea etc, the problem is that there are koreans training their heart out to even be in code A, and what when they see some non korean being top 12 in an MLG after being seeded in pool auto qualified in code A, leaving after winning his first match?
I think it's what people are uncomfortable with, it's obvious that not everybody will want to live in korea.
edit : I dunno which exact rank he was it was more of a random example
WriterMaru
Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
October 10 2011 19:13 GMT
#94
I think that is the correct decision for him. He was just too short compared to his level. Despite the fact that he beat Maka, he is just not on par.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
October 10 2011 19:15 GMT
#95
On October 11 2011 04:10 BryanSC wrote:
So I guess the Liquid guys and a few other foreigners are the only individuals who are really taking Korea seriously and not treating it like some vacation. It's a shame that Sjow wasted a Code A spot and makes the foreigner community look bad in the eyes of GSL. It's almost to the point where GSL should reconsider giving out Code A spots to foreigners because there just taking up space now. And for the people who say, "well why don't you do it and see how hard it is," being a progamer is not my livelihood and profession, and its a shame that people like Naniwa, Huk, and Jinro, no matter what you think of their skill, are the big minority who are willing to push and deal with the inconveniences and hardships that come with having to live in an entirely new country.


If you don't know what its like being a progamer, why do you assume that Korea is the best place to make your home. It seems to me that Destiny is a progamer from his own house, as is White-Ra, and Grubby, and countless other great foreigner professionals.

Living in Korea does not equal pro gaming status, some people aspire to travel there, others do not.
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koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
October 10 2011 19:16 GMT
#96
these guys are getting free tickets into gsl
something most koreans dream of getting into
then they just throw it away...
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
October 10 2011 19:17 GMT
#97
On October 11 2011 03:49 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:35 hipsterHobbit wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:16 cz wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:11 Zic wrote:
I'm getting tired of foreigners coming to Korea for a single GSL season and then leaving right after.


It's almost as if travelling to a foreign country where you don't speak the language and living there is a hard transition or something.


Transitional period should be over - he's been there awhile imo.

Yes, learning a completely new language shouldn't take more than a few weeks, even while you're employed in a non-social profession...........

obnoxious.

Sjow is the man he will do fine in whatever he does.


Doesn't have to do with learning the language, has to do with the giant transition from western to eastern society. the shock of it all, of not being near his parents and friends and so on. Sleeping in a new bed in a new country, eating new food, so on.

stupidity.


Well there's that, but Sjow's main problem I think is his low APM. The rest of his skills are good enough to throw down with, dare I say any korean? I mean he can go toe to toe with MMA and such with his slow hand speed.

I think he can improve almost just as well in Europe as in Korea to be honest, as his main concern should be mechanics.

Also the price for winning code A, which is probably as hard to do as to win MLG providence, is a pat on the back and like a 100 bucks. Not worth it.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
xajukx
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada325 Posts
October 10 2011 19:17 GMT
#98
On October 11 2011 03:14 Zic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 03:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On October 11 2011 03:11 Zic wrote:
I'm getting tired of foreigners coming to Korea for a single GSL season and then leaving right after.


It's almost as if travelling to a foreign country where you don't speak the language and living there is a hard transition or something.


But why even go in the first place if you're not going to stay for very long?


Agreed - People are saying "wtf do you think they're emotionless robots who don't get homesick"

- Do you not think that they consider that before going in the first place? It's safe to assume that they know they're going into a foreign culture with a different language before they go!
phisku
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Belgium864 Posts
October 10 2011 19:18 GMT
#99
he won the iesf or something, i guess he decided it was good enough.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
October 10 2011 19:23 GMT
#100
I don't think he ever intended to move to korea, he just went there to practice for a while. It's quite different.
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