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nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
October 10 2011 22:08 GMT
#1041
On October 11 2011 06:56 CaptainCharisma wrote:
I see a lot of people calling for a Lurker. I didn't play much SC1, but as far as I could tell a Lurker was just a unit that burrowed and lifted spikes up from the ground, right? Can someone tell me why these units get so much hype? It seems like they would be cannon fodder once Terran scans and Protoss just needs an obs with it's army.

Could someone please explain why a Lurker seems to be a particularly desirable unit? It seemed bad to me in my eeexxtremely limited SC1 experience.


Brings the concept of map control and positioning to the forefront again. They are also awesome against unmicro'd 1-a clumps of units, which we see too much of in SC2.
KneeDeeP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States256 Posts
October 10 2011 22:10 GMT
#1042
I wonder if this is the unit that comes from infesting a bunker, I think it was shown at last blizzcon
"the virtuous man is content to dream what a wicked man really does"
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
October 10 2011 22:10 GMT
#1043
On October 11 2011 07:01 MrSexington wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 06:56 CaptainCharisma wrote:
I see a lot of people calling for a Lurker. I didn't play much SC1, but as far as I could tell a Lurker was just a unit that burrowed and lifted spikes up from the ground, right? Can someone tell me why these units get so much hype? It seems like they would be cannon fodder once Terran scans and Protoss just needs an obs with it's army.

Could someone please explain why a Lurker seems to be a particularly desirable unit? It seemed bad to me in my eeexxtremely limited SC1 experience.


I don't even...

Yes, it burrows and shoots a line of spikes. I suggest looking up Youtube videos. Not sure where to start.


Lurkers were very tanky(ish). They also did a LOT of damage to unsuspecting marines and medics (there were no medivacs), so a lot of squads got picked apart in small chokes due to the pathing being more manual. Imagine 10-12 marines and 2-3 medics walking in a single file line and being disrupted and taking a lot of damage, without the medics being able to heal properly, because ALL the units would be taking damage. Scans used to be a lot more viable before too, because there were no mules as an option. Now terran would have to stock a lot of scans or get a Raven to push out safely, only to scan the area, and have the lurker unburrow and run (those things used to be pretty fast at that too).

Hope that helped, but I don´t think this new unit will be anywhere close to the lurker.
FrogOfWar
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1406 Posts
October 10 2011 22:11 GMT
#1044
It makes sense to introduce a unit that's morphed from a hydralisk since hydras are underwhelming atm but also needed for aa.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
October 10 2011 22:12 GMT
#1045
On October 11 2011 07:07 MageWarden wrote:
Its definately a roach morph. the legs are IDENTICAL. the shell is so SIMILAR. the face looks like the seperated jaws of a ROACH. Its also a seige unit (what blizzard promised zerg in HoTS)

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/roach (look at the gif)


The crown of the head is a hydralisk though, just look at the OP....you can see how the hydra is the head and the back is more armored and roach like.
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AXygnus
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Portugal1008 Posts
October 10 2011 22:13 GMT
#1046
On October 11 2011 06:55 wildstyle1337 wrote:
[image loading]

[image loading]

it is some kond of Immortal unit, morphed from Hydralisk


It seems so shield-like now, wow. Starting to think that's it.
"To create, to recreate. To create, to recreate. Down to the last seed, I stand with a dark stare. Still silent. Still frighteningly silent."
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
October 10 2011 22:13 GMT
#1047
i really hope its roach mutation and not hydra mutation, because going to lair tech for hydras THEN getting mutation building/research would be kinda ridiculous.

hope its tier 1 roach warren, get lair, mutate roach warren
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
October 10 2011 22:13 GMT
#1048
On October 11 2011 07:07 MageWarden wrote:
Its definately a roach morph. the legs are IDENTICAL. the shell is so SIMILAR. the face looks like the seperated jaws of a ROACH. Its also a seige unit (what blizzard promised zerg in HoTS)

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/roach (look at the gif)

The face is definitely more similar to a Hydra than a Roach. Also, Roaches have six legs, this thing only has four.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
October 10 2011 22:15 GMT
#1049
On October 11 2011 07:13 ZAiNs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 07:07 MageWarden wrote:
Its definately a roach morph. the legs are IDENTICAL. the shell is so SIMILAR. the face looks like the seperated jaws of a ROACH. Its also a seige unit (what blizzard promised zerg in HoTS)

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/game/unit/roach (look at the gif)

The face is definitely more similar to a Hydra than a Roach. Also, Roaches have six legs, this thing only has four.


Hydras have none.
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
October 10 2011 22:15 GMT
#1050
On October 11 2011 07:13 megapants wrote:
i really hope its roach mutation and not hydra mutation, because going to lair tech for hydras THEN getting mutation building/research would be kinda ridiculous.

hope its tier 1 roach warren, get lair, mutate roach warren


They could of changed hydras to T1 or made a different requirement like T 1.75 where you need spawning pool and roach warren to get to hydra den.
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
October 10 2011 22:15 GMT
#1051
On October 11 2011 06:18 synkronized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 05:28 Chapes wrote:
[image loading]

I think it's an infested Tachikoma.

Thanks alot. People stared at me strangely when I burst out laughing at the school library.


Infested Tachikoma would be SO OP, it is funny!
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
October 10 2011 22:15 GMT
#1052
Hmm, the idea of a roach morph that could shoot air is kinda cool, but it would be so similar to a stalker...
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Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 22:40:09
October 10 2011 22:18 GMT
#1053
[image loading]http://images.brighthub.com/6b/9/6b91cd33ce69bf3bfaaa38ef944862b6be582772_large.jpg


Blizzard already made a move on this way and announced that the lurker would come back in both the single and the multiplayer parts of the game. This unit from Starcraft : Broodwar will allow the Zerg players to deal with the MM Strategy(Marine + Marauder) that is very strong in the early game. The lurker is a spiderish unit that can only attack when burrowed and that is vulnerable to range units when not burrowed or detected. Lurker attacks are very devastating against enemy infantry groups and the lurker can also be used as a Siege Unit, as it has a greater range than many static defenses. One of the particularity of the lurkers is that they can attack without being noticed, unlike the roaches or the banelings.

Read more: http://www.brighthub.com/video-games/pc/articles/109736.aspx#ixzz1aQ5zyShw

----

So probably re-designed Lurker with a shell.

---

EDIT 1 :

[image loading]http://cdn.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/starcraft-2-heart-of-the-swarm-screenshot-05.jpg

EDIT2: [image loading]http://cdn.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/starcraft-2-heart-of-the-swarm-screenshot-16.jpg

EDIT3: http://www.g4tv.com/videos/53124/starcraft-2-heart-of-the-swarm-gameplay-trailer/?quality=hd

[image loading]

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/954721-starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm/images/gs_screen-184

http://www.gamefaqs.com/pc/954721-starcraft-ii-heart-of-the-swarm/images/gs_screen-185

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/069/939643_20080309_screen036.jpg
TyrantPotato
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1541 Posts
October 10 2011 22:18 GMT
#1054
PARASECT I CHOOSE YOU!

Forever ZeNEX.
SoulSever
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada779 Posts
October 10 2011 22:20 GMT
#1055
A spammable anti-air unit is definetly needed
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Taiyoken
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada130 Posts
October 10 2011 22:22 GMT
#1056
If it is a Lurker, I hope they add in a toggle-able attack for 'hold position lurkers' again.
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
October 10 2011 22:24 GMT
#1057
On October 11 2011 07:13 megapants wrote:
i really hope its roach mutation and not hydra mutation, because going to lair tech for hydras THEN getting mutation building/research would be kinda ridiculous.

hope its tier 1 roach warren, get lair, mutate roach warren



who says Hydras arent Tier 1 in HotS ... I guess we can dream right ?
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
October 10 2011 22:25 GMT
#1058
http://i.imgur.com/gVxAU.jpg

=

http://cdn.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/starcraft-2-heart-of-the-swarm-screenshot-16.jpg

?? So I'm almost positive you morph 2 roaches together or maybe 1 roach/hydra.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
October 10 2011 22:27 GMT
#1059
On October 11 2011 07:25 Nizzy wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/gVxAU.jpg

=

http://cdn.gossipgamers.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/starcraft-2-heart-of-the-swarm-screenshot-16.jpg

?? So I'm almost positive you morph 2 roaches together or maybe 1 roach/hydra.

I think you need to research Roach Saddle.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
October 10 2011 22:27 GMT
#1060
On October 11 2011 07:15 Taf the Ghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2011 06:18 synkronized wrote:
On October 11 2011 05:28 Chapes wrote:
[image loading]

I think it's an infested Tachikoma.

Thanks alot. People stared at me strangely when I burst out laughing at the school library.


Infested Tachikoma would be SO OP, it is funny!

I love you people, I'm laughing so hard right now.
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