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ThyHate
Profile Joined September 2011
240 Posts
October 10 2011 05:32 GMT
#61
Shoving LoL into my face while I was enjoying sc2 is pretty much like when the cameraman zooms on the guy's face during climax in pron.
elbooN
Profile Joined January 2011
United States255 Posts
October 10 2011 05:32 GMT
#62
9/10

Things I thought could be improved on:

-Video lag during finals
-Graphics (already been touched on here, the scoreboard graphic was just really ugly to me in general though...that's probably nit-picky though)
-Random loud music during interviews, random guitar transitions, random explosions
-No day9/tastosis (I realize how this might be logistically impossible, but to have a perfect event you have to have atleast one of the 3 biggest casters in the scene there imo)
-The terrible comedian
-Seeing Puma's face during a big micro battle to decide his series with Hero
-I don't know how the scheduling was meant, but interrupting the SC2 semifinals for the LoL finals seemed kind of weird.

That's all I can think of right now... I honestly would list out all the positives but I'd be sitting here all night typing like a fanboy.

I purchased IGN Prime just to support you guys, this was seriously the best e-sports event I have watched online, everything considered. Thank you <3

wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:36:15
October 10 2011 05:34 GMT
#63
Can you please choreograph your awards ceremony? Not just IGN but all these tournaments have the most awkward and cringe-inducing awards ceremonies.

Everyone is standing wherever, nobody knows what to ask or say, and then there's always the awkward handing of the check and/or trophy (if you're Sundance from MLG you pass the trophy to the guy using your chest because your other hand is full *facepalm*).
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:36:47
October 10 2011 05:36 GMT
#64
Other than the unfortunate delays, lags & downtimes, IGN did a pretty much flawless job. I also have to give major props for having good content as fillers during those incidents. However, as a viewing experience, it wasn't the best. EU viewers got screwed over as usual with the hours, and however unlucky you guys were with some of the technical issues, it did significantly reduce the enjoyability of watching the tournament through the online stream. I would give the whole experience an 8/10.

Some noteworthy things that IGN did very well.
- Using 3 caster teams in rotation. It made sure you cast as many games as possible, and the casters weren't worn out by the end.
- Amazing production values, particularly the 60 fps stream.
- Great translators. Susie, Smix & Wax fighting~
- Great extra content, such as interviews, back-stage looks, player panels, first-person player views...etc.
- Very nice prize pool distribution where everyone wins something.


Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
jake1138
Profile Joined September 2011
United States82 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:43:51
October 10 2011 05:38 GMT
#65
9/10 - Really enjoyed the tournament

+ Lots of content; continuous games was nice
+ Enjoyed pool play; some great epic matches
+ Decent production quality
+ Free HD streaming

- Music volume too loud and played during interviews
- Commercial volume too loud
- Stream volume too low
- Some bad cuts between game and player faces
- LoL should NOT have been played on SC2 stream
- Some bad lag on Day 3, had to drop quality
- Scoreboard overlay needs some work, hard to read
- Need split VODs ASAP so people can catch up
Goshdarnit
Profile Joined August 2011
United States540 Posts
October 10 2011 05:42 GMT
#66
NOOO mouse misclicked on 7nnnnnn... well thought it was prob a 9 but huge lag for me during stephano's last two series. Prob my computer but still.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
October 10 2011 05:42 GMT
#67
If you want to add more games for added content, don't have a useless group stage, do a double elimination format instead (Bo3 the whole way through).
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11048 Posts
October 10 2011 05:43 GMT
#68
Gave it a 10 because the flaws were largely out of their hands and I think the constant content really made up for the few shortcomings in my eyes.

My only recommendation/request is that though David should definitely stay active, let us know what he has planned and get the credit he deserves, the awards ceremony is better done by one of the casters if you want to make it its own thing. Not a big deal honestly. Thanks David ^^

Also the sound was a touch low for the first 3 days.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
slicknav
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
October 10 2011 05:45 GMT
#69
On October 10 2011 14:32 ThyHate wrote:
Shoving LoL into my face while I was enjoying sc2 is pretty much like when the cameraman zooms on the guy's face during climax in pron.


This is exactly what it felt like. It might of been better to have a separate stream for LoL. Alot of people in the LR thread starting watch a fighting games tournament. Also the timing of the LoL match was odd, after the first semi-finals. What this could have meant is that the winner of the 2nd semi final match had to play 12 games straight, while the winner of the first would had a few hours to prepare/rest.

All the interviews/panel with Incontrol was great. However the final interview was incredibly awkward. But I guess all SC2 tournaments are like that...it would have been nice to see a good one.

The technical problems with stream lag were annoying, but it wasn't intolerable.

I'm only pointing out the negatives because everything else was awesome. 9/10.
blah blah blah...
Clank
Profile Joined April 2011
United States548 Posts
October 10 2011 05:46 GMT
#70
On October 10 2011 14:25 Trealador wrote:
I don't understand why you would have online qualifiers AND an open bracket. Why not have 4-8 invites from people last season or whatever reason. And then allow the qualifiers to determine the rest. The pool play was insanely poor, even IdrA didn't give a shit enough to play which I do not fault him in the slightest for. Having it scheduled so closely to IEM China was a poor decision, although without a central organization I suppose these things cannot be avoided. The lag was terrible for a few of the games which caused me to stop watching for a while. Over all just a lack luster tournament based upon all the hype. NASL is still the best tournament based on actual games instead of production. Sound issues suck, but lag is 10x worse. A 4-0 reminded me of NesTea vs Losira which was really summed up by the award ceremony. I want to watch SCII, not LoL. Please do not do that again, and work on the actual event instead of simply production. I probably most enjoyed the panels and interviews more than the actual games because of the general low quality of play.


the online qualifiers were there to find 8 more players that they would pay to come out. If they didnt have those, hardly any koreans would have showed, other than boxer and MC and the few guys from the open bracket. Also, stephano probably wouldnt have even come if it wasn't for the online qualifiers
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
October 10 2011 05:47 GMT
#71
Without the delays ( which were expertly dealt with ) I felt that it was easily worth a 9/10. Even during the showmatch between deathlord and lani I was entertained, while it was a diamond vs bronze game!

The on screen graphics though... eh. That's the only point that desperately needs work. Reminds me of NASL with inproperly placed shadows, nigh contrastless metal and dull light screens. The intro's were good, on screen graphics were bad ( and yes I am talking about the names too, because they were unreadable ).
Arnstein
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Norway3381 Posts
October 10 2011 05:50 GMT
#72
WTF was that LoL thing? I had to work today, so I just went to bed
Besides that it was good!
rsol in response to the dragoon voice being heard in SCII: dragoon ai reaches new lows: wanders into wrong game
Xanderk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States51 Posts
October 10 2011 05:53 GMT
#73
anyone else think that slasher guy sucks? damn hes annoying and not funny.
RacerX
Profile Joined December 2010
United States168 Posts
October 10 2011 05:54 GMT
#74
7, I would really like to see double elimination in the future
Thats the power of pine sol
danson
Profile Joined April 2010
United States689 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:57:44
October 10 2011 05:56 GMT
#75
people are wayyy too jaded because a foreigner won.

the production quality in some areas was off the hook, and was very very nice (cameras, lighting, stream quality****)

but other parts were just plain bad.

AWKWARD ass interviews, and just overall not very good interviewers / some casters were just b-level at best (glares at the you-know-who caster duo), the crowd, if you can call it that was anemic at best...

and then theres the format... lets design a tourney where half the games in the first two days dont matter at all. , players were literally flipping a coin instead of playing a game.. and what bothers the hell out of me is that there werent enought games to fill the time. just cram it in one less day and get rid of all the unnessecary downtime, downtime KILLS viewers and "bonus matches" between silver players doesnt help)

no internet - cant REALLY blame them,


Overall id give this tourney a 6 or 7. it was a GOOD tourney, but was it a 9/10 or a 8/10?... dont kid yourselves, there was ALOT of room for improvement. It was a great first attempt, but stop giving them a perfect score just cause you like stephano.
esotericc
Profile Joined July 2011
449 Posts
October 10 2011 06:01 GMT
#76
I also have to agree, please don't use HD as a caster
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
October 10 2011 06:04 GMT
#77
I still hate that moment in some base race situation with Hero playing and the take the camera off the game and focus on Hero's face! ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING ME!?!?!?!?!? there is a critical moment in a game and you aren't going to show it? I really don't get it. 8/10 because some of the player introductions were awkward, really awkward.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
October 10 2011 06:05 GMT
#78
and what bothers the hell out of me is that there werent enought games to fill the time. just cram it in one less day and get rid of all the unnessecary downtime, downtime KILLS viewers and "bonus matches" between silver players doesnt help)


Unfortunately, if you have players scheduled for a match, you really cannot force them to play earlier, because they may not want to / not prepared / sleeping / practicing / etc.

These things happen just because starcraft is very volatile in terms of the match setup. They had to do something with the unexpected blowout from a BO5 series that was allocated something like 90 minutes of time.
Fkyx
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 06:18:31
October 10 2011 06:07 GMT
#79
There were some serious production issues, some of which were admitted mistakes, and some just seemed like poor management. Things like occasional poor volume normalization between caster, stage microphones, and sound effects (explosion transitions) were a little frustrating. Also, music played at the "close" of each night was often times too loud, which meant that some interviews and the award ceremonies were hard to hear.

While filling down time with those gameplay countdowns narrated by CP were a step up over MLG, they still got repetitive at times. I don't think "more games" is really the answer here, though. I think if they had Lani or someone else ready to do some correspondence during the downtime, that I'd be more attentive throughout the entirety of the broadcast. Think about MMA broadcasts, too. The matches could take anywhere from the 30 seconds to the full 15 minutes, or more if there are stoppages. But they always have something to fill the time.

I don't want to rag on Rachel or Anna too much, but I think they could do a better job when they appear on stage. I think this could be because of poor preparation ahead of time, although it's understandable because of how fast paced the event was. They don't need to try so hard to be witty. I think I'd much rather have a solid host than a funny host that stumbles on words a lot.

I think my biggest gripe, though, is a lack of involvement with the online community during the event. While they encouraged tweeting and such, it seemed like there was little attention paid to the actual tweeting or stream chatting that was going on, with the exception of the awesome LiveU streams.

Also, it was pretty easy to circumvent the IGN Prime requirements to watch the other streams. If someone from IPL wants to message me about how it was done, please do. The time delay difference between the main stage stream and the LiveU streams was troublesome, especially during the Lani/David showmatch. That said, I'll definitely purchase IGN Prime for IPL4.

But I'm just nitpicking. Overall the broadcast was excellent. They handled the internet outage expertly, the showmatch between Lani and David was fun, the player panels and LO3 additions were genius. I loved the extra streams that were available, notably the first person views. I think MLG and NASL have something to strive for as far as their broacasting experience goes. While the live-crowd turnout seemed to be struggling, I think that's something that can easily be addressed in the future. Awesome job, IPL staff!

9/10
Sup son? ¯\__(ツ)__/¯
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
October 10 2011 06:11 GMT
#80
The only negative for me was best of three single elim, but what can you really do about that. Maybe if they had something similar to mlg like a winners bracket or whatever for group winners. This would also help group play matches also mean something. But really this tournament was phenomenal, and I really enjoyed it 9/10 for sure. I think it is on the same footing as dream hack in terms of entertainment.
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