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AnxiousHippo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia1451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 04:54:48
October 10 2011 04:53 GMT
#41
Brilliant work guys. You definitely responded to feedback on the fly and managed to deal with the internet problem surprisingly well. There was still some lag during the finals, but otherwise it was all pretty good
Edit: More accessible/understandable VODS would be nice, at the moment all I've found is hours of chunks on JTV.
An apple a day keeps the Protoss away | TLHF
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
October 10 2011 04:58 GMT
#42
9/10

The 1 could be made up by:
- Making polls for game recommendation after each game and linking those polls in the OP.
- Maybe improving the groupstage more ( or removing it in favor of a loser's bracket ).
- Optimizing the IPL stream viewer thing, and allowing for more layouts. I would like to be able to have two streams on top of each other and a chat beside them. My laptop can play SC2 in high but I had to use the justin.tv page because of lag on the ipl stream player.
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Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
October 10 2011 04:59 GMT
#43
Fan-fucking-tastic tournament. They obviously had their fair share of issues, but IGN has done a fantastic job handling the tournament. They had excellent filler, a truckload of content, amazing player panels, quality matches, high quality production, great casters and did a absolutely great job giving us content while their internet was dead on the second day. 9/10 from me.

They could work on improving their format. I still don't quite understand what the deal about the pool play was, it felt very pointless compare to MLG poolplay. Double elimination format could be considered, though one could argue that scheduling would be difficult.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
October 10 2011 04:59 GMT
#44
I would once again applaud the smooth 60FPS high-quality encoding! But thinking about it you guys failed at delivering much of in-game sound. Sound is just as important as visual so please keep that in mind!
lightrise
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1355 Posts
October 10 2011 05:00 GMT
#45
TAKE THIS TO HEART. You guys have awesome headsets from astros and your walking advertisements all over the place. GET SOME EAR PLATES. you can get some speaker tags for the astro a40s that are awesome and they could promote the event or some sponsor. Its a huge waste to not have something on the speaker tags
Awesome german interviewer: "What was your idea going into games against Idra" "I WANTED TO USE A CHEESE STRATEGY BECAUSE IDRA IS KNOWN TO TILT AFTER LOSING TO SOMETHING GAY" Demuslim
Korlinni
Profile Joined April 2011
125 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:02:40
October 10 2011 05:01 GMT
#46
8/10

- Times when the music blasted my ears
- Volume of stream was low
- Lots of explosions
- Disliked the venue that was 1hr away from me but 21+

- Loved the Lo3
- LIked the splitscreen option
- No protoss in the semi-finals =p
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SeeDLiNg
Profile Joined January 2010
United States690 Posts
October 10 2011 05:03 GMT
#47
HEAVY HEAVY lag... constantly.. no matter what setting, no matter how many refreshes.

cuts to the players face in epic battles... for 10-20 seconds...


epic tourney with really really great matches... but omgwtf horrible production
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
October 10 2011 05:04 GMT
#48
8/10. There are always hiccups and stuff, but I took off 2 points specifically for the first 2 days of the event. They really are virtually meaningless outside of the open bracket. It's just like... If you want to have the tournament run longer, then do some showmatches early on instead or some of the funky things like have players switch mid game w/ teamates and stuff inbetween showing open-bracket coverage.

Seeding in that particular way just makes the games very, very meaningless. Especially, quite frankly, when the tournament is as god as IPL is. Seeding is a little more important in tournaments where you can spread out the talent. But given how strong the player pool is, even the "weaker" sides or brackets are still very strong, so determining where you end up isn't as important in the grand scheme of things.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
MrMotionPicture
Profile Joined May 2010
United States4327 Posts
October 10 2011 05:07 GMT
#49
It was pretty awesome. Production value was unbelievable and there were so many great games. Kiwikaki vs Stephano GAME 2! Sucks a car had to crash and ruin the internet for awhile though. It is not their fault, but it still took away from the experience. 9/10!
"Elvis Presley" | Ret was looking at my post in the GSL video by Artosis. | MMA told me I look like Juanfran while we shared an elevator with Scarlett
Hikko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1126 Posts
October 10 2011 05:11 GMT
#50
Aside from the constant lag issues of the stream (I'm sure this will be fixed for the next one!), y'all outdid yourselves. Amazing job, especially given the issues with the internet that you had--you handled it very well.

9/10, loved it!
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Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
October 10 2011 05:12 GMT
#51
close-ups of gamers with bad complexion...given that this whole tournament was geared toward a wider more general audience, I feel like it would have been nice if they had used some camera tricks to take shots that were a bit more flattering.

Regardless, it was an awesome event – setting the bar even higher for live event production quality.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:17:34
October 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#52
Stream in 1920x1080. Ingame resolution is the only thing I have to complain about.

Ah yeah ^ lik Pyo said. Close up shots on gamers with bad skin is maybe not the most flattering thing. Especially if the player himself have a complex about it. It works in GSL and in BW broadcasts since they have makeup artists.
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Takezou
Profile Joined October 2010
United States320 Posts
October 10 2011 05:18 GMT
#53
Great event overall really, can't stress that enough. Couple of things to work on though.

-Ceremony was a bit off. Might want to have someone with some experience run it?

-Overlay was blurry and couldn't see the scores.

-That t-shirt guy was pretty... lets just say awkward (being nice here). If you want to give away t-shirts just have one of the personalities/players do it. Crowd would love it a lot more and I am sure some of the players would like that interaction with the crowd.

-There were a few minor sound volume issues (but not really a big deal).

-I didn't like that the two semis had a big break in between. Would prefer they be played right after each other.

Some random positive notes

-Anna and Rachael had some awkward moments but I think given the chance they could do a lot better.

-dApollo is a very very good caster (bring him back!!!)

-Doa and cats had very good chemistry but I prefer splitting them up and pairing them each with a pro player. However, again they were very entertaining and honestly Doa worked a lot better with CatsPajamas than with the GSL casters he normally pairs with.

-Megumi should be given a shot to conduct some of the main stage interviews. She has much better insight than Anna and Rachael.

- Would definitely tune into more IPL events so basically that is the best feedback I can give.
sunman1g
Profile Joined May 2011
United States334 Posts
October 10 2011 05:20 GMT
#54
the production was AMAZING.

i love the idea that you can select player cameras.

the free stream was in such high quality, there was no lag and all the graphics were super crisp.
during the down-time it was always filled with funny interviews and content so you would never get bored.

i also never heard this catspajama or whatever you spell his name dude before and he seems like a super nice guy, i love him.
djwheat + apollo was a fantastic (and best) combo.

i gave it a 9 just because there's always room for improvement (i.e. fancy 3d graphic intro like GSL) but EVERYTHING was so tight and professional.
good job to anna too.

gj gj gj

i will buy the IGN prime next time for sure.

pls select a better location though... LOL i don't think atlantic city was a smart choice >_>
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 05:23:34
October 10 2011 05:20 GMT
#55
On October 10 2011 13:53 kevinmon wrote:
I couldn't read the player's names on the overlay or see the score.

This guy had some pretty cool concepts for IPL's scoreboard and win screen:

Scoreboard:
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Win Screen:
[image loading]

EDIT IPL4 could also use an epic intro video like this:

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wrl
Profile Joined April 2011
United States209 Posts
October 10 2011 05:22 GMT
#56
I'll post my feedback from the point of view of going to the event today:

Positives:
*Great Venue ($2 shots at the Wild West Bar near by!)
*Great Deal ($15 tickets that came with a swag bag)
*Great production value
*Loved the panel with Inc, MC, Select, and Stephano
*Getting to see and say hi to a ton of pros in person

Negatives:
*Really difficult to figure out where to go/check in, I didn't get and couldn't find any information for the event, although I admittedly thought it would be easier to figure out so I didn't look too hard (Big ups to the IPL guy from San Fran with the awesome mustache for helping out!)
*The player view screens were actually kinda pointless and I really would have liked to have just had a much larger main screen.
*Not a great turnout, but good for their first event I guess.
*HD is just not a great caster. (Loved basically everyone else though, DOA and Apollo especially)
*League of Legends is a horrible horrible game for eSports. It simply doesnt have the potential SC2 has to become a real factor. I managed to get a few people interested in SC2 who had barely played or never played, but when they saw LoL they were just confused and bored beyond belief. Putting that on before the Semis was awful (but a great opportunity to have some drinks and watch football).

However, on the flipside, I think it was a great experience to watch the first few days online (which I guess most of the ad revenue is coming from anyway). While I would have given the live event maybe a 6, the online experience was so good I'd give the event an 8 overall.
It's funny; I dream a lot, but I'm not a very good sleeper.
rave[wcr]
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1166 Posts
October 10 2011 05:23 GMT
#57
i felt like at times the camera guys focused too long on the players while they were playing. there were some exciting in game moments missed because the camera guy was focused on the player clicking the keyboards. quicker player shots more game shots. the ladies in the tournament were probably the best part in it for me outside of the actual games. more megumixbear seltzer and uncontrollable plz even that translator chick was cute
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
October 10 2011 05:25 GMT
#58
Only complaint is :

-Some observers were really bad.
-We don't give a shit about seeing a player's face when a fight is happening
-Don't fucking bring a stupid comedian
-Sound wasn't the best but ok
-Don't like HD nor CatsPajamas humor but that's just me i guess
-Don't like the girl hosts thing.
-We don't care about LoL, don't force us to watch it.
-Lag issues with stream

Pros :
dApollo is the best caster/analyst after Artosis or Day9. He's very professionnal too. Bring him back for IPL 4 (MLG take notes)
Nice to present the players before the games
Nice production value (player views and such)
Panel is the best thing i watched in a while (other than games)
Having 3 casters duo is great but PainUser and HD weren't good imo espicially HD
Tournament format is awesome but would prefer a losing bracket for the Championship finals
Live on 3 at IPL was fun.
Awesome roster, great sponsors
Lanni.IGN <333333
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Trealador
Profile Joined August 2011
United States207 Posts
October 10 2011 05:25 GMT
#59
I don't understand why you would have online qualifiers AND an open bracket. Why not have 4-8 invites from people last season or whatever reason. And then allow the qualifiers to determine the rest. The pool play was insanely poor, even IdrA didn't give a shit enough to play which I do not fault him in the slightest for. Having it scheduled so closely to IEM China was a poor decision, although without a central organization I suppose these things cannot be avoided. The lag was terrible for a few of the games which caused me to stop watching for a while. Over all just a lack luster tournament based upon all the hype. NASL is still the best tournament based on actual games instead of production. Sound issues suck, but lag is 10x worse. A 4-0 reminded me of NesTea vs Losira which was really summed up by the award ceremony. I want to watch SCII, not LoL. Please do not do that again, and work on the actual event instead of simply production. I probably most enjoyed the panels and interviews more than the actual games because of the general low quality of play.
Like a man.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
October 10 2011 05:26 GMT
#60
It was a good event...I wasn't a fan of the casters/interviewers or the decision of what to air (LoL cutting into SC2 the final day with 4hrs between semi-finals matches), people saying MLG take note...what could MLG improve upon that IPL3 had? I voted for 5/10.
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