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AndreiDaGiant
Profile Joined October 2010
United States394 Posts
October 05 2011 03:30 GMT
#541
dam yo this unit looks terribly goody hope its good... might replace the maurder
Terran Metal for the Win
StarStrider
Profile Joined August 2011
United States689 Posts
October 05 2011 03:30 GMT
#542
IMHO it's a combination of the hellion and the firebat. That's the one thing that Terran has been missing is a melee/close range/tank damage unit. I'm not saying they need this to balance anything as it stands, but other changes to other units in HOTS might neccessitate it. It would make sense as it kind of balances out with Zerg and Protoss.

Everyone missed the firebat. They are bringing that back, changing the hellion, combining them into a versatile viking-like transforming bio unit. Win.
Spontaneous Pneumothorax sucks, please keep MVP sC in your thoughts. sC fighting! 힘내세요
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
October 05 2011 03:32 GMT
#543
It's a Decepticon, you heard it here first.
Bashnek
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia895 Posts
October 05 2011 03:32 GMT
#544
Is that..... ironhide? :O
/人 ◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
October 05 2011 03:33 GMT
#545
Hmmm... it definitely looks like its more than meets the eye...

2: A transforming unit. I'm fearful of this because Blizzard isn't going to give Terrans 3 transforming units. Blizzard categorically refuses to remove Siege Tanks, which means Vikings will have to go. Just when Terrans started to realize that Vikings on the ground can be pretty damned strong in some situations. I'm not a huge fan of Vikings (I think putting that kind of range on a flying unit causes more problems than it solves), but I really like the dynamic that their ability to drop to the ground can create.


Where did you get the fact that they can't have 3 transforming units for terran? Transformers feel very terran (their buildings move around and switch add-ons). Maybe a marauder replacement that can move fast in car form but can fight (and move slowly) in humanoid form?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10739 Posts
October 05 2011 03:33 GMT
#546
It looks like something even more imbalanced than the reaper was in early launch....Oh no!!!!!! lol
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Grndr101
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium125 Posts
October 05 2011 03:34 GMT
#547
On October 05 2011 12:29 bittman wrote:
Hmm, I think a lot of people are probably on the money with some of the ideas, here are some that came to me looking at it:

A) Could surely be a "neo-goliath" that can shoot ground and air, but would obviously need to stand apart from the Thor
B) Could be a mech "support" unit. Perhaps like a "mech caster" to go alongside the bio and air casters.
C) Perhaps Terran units will be able to "upgrade" ala Zerg morph.

D) Honestly doubtful it's a new bio unit, because though someone put a big circle over a "flamethrower" to me it looks like a robot head.
E) Ground melee mech unit. From the sillouette, it's totally guessable that this might be a terran non-ranged unit for a change.

I'd prefer B or E. Terran melee would be interesting to add in. Mech caster / support would be good of course, though completely reliant upon abilities regarding balance.

Anyway, pretty interested in what else there is to come. Also ignoring the nay-sayers who think Terran should have nothing interesting in the next expansion. Blizzard needs to show shiny new toys for all races, sometimes balance isn't about simply nerfing again and again, but throwing in more variety. And yes, terran already have that variety aspect, but from a design / marketing perspective it'd be stupid to ignore one race for an expansion because it's already good at what it does.


THIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

I'd love to make my hellion useful once the zerg goes for more roaches or after protoss gets anything.
ObserverSix2One
Profile Joined February 2011
Israel115 Posts
October 05 2011 03:34 GMT
#548
On October 05 2011 12:30 Namu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 12:28 Toppp wrote:
On October 05 2011 12:26 ObserverSix2One wrote:
I don't get blizzard, Terran is in the top of korea, fallowed up by zerg and protoss is barely even exists, why do they choose to show a new Terran unit? it's what I'm least excited about, more like worried ><

is it just me or do you guys share this feeling too?



Why would you be worried?

They are releasing silhouettes for new Zerg and Protoss units on the 10th and 17th.


yeah, not like they're not releasing new units for other races..
it would be an awful idea to not release a new unit for a race anyways, even if it is "complete" right now.

I know, I just saying that showing a Terran new unit is not as exacting for me as a protoss or zerg new unit, plus i didn't know about the other silhouettes, looking forward to that :D
I'm not a Vampire.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 03:36:23
October 05 2011 03:34 GMT
#549
On October 05 2011 12:26 ObserverSix2One wrote:
I don't get blizzard, Terran is in the top of korea, fallowed up by zerg and protoss is barely even exists, why do they choose to show a new Terran unit? it's what I'm least excited about, more like worried ><

is it just me or do you guys share this feeling too?


No man. They're releasing a silhouette from each race each week and you're complaining about what order they appear in.

Who. Fucking. Cares.

EDIT: Ok literally the post above me you say you didn't know about the other units being previewed, sorry. But, er, read the OP :D

I redirect my comment to the people who actually are managing to balance whine about unit previews.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 05 2011 03:34 GMT
#550
On October 05 2011 12:30 StarStrider wrote:
IMHO it's a combination of the hellion and the firebat. That's the one thing that Terran has been missing is a melee/close range/tank damage unit. I'm not saying they need this to balance anything as it stands, but other changes to other units in HOTS might neccessitate it. It would make sense as it kind of balances out with Zerg and Protoss.

Everyone missed the firebat. They are bringing that back, changing the hellion, combining them into a versatile viking-like transforming bio unit. Win.



They did?_?

If this is a Melee unit could this mean the return for Dark swarm @_@

I dunno where all people take this will be a melee unit though. Although it it is a Hellion "Combat mode" I could see it acting as a Firebat. And that would be awesome
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1934 Posts
October 05 2011 03:35 GMT
#551
Looks like Egon Stetman or whatever glued wheels to his suit.
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johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
October 05 2011 03:35 GMT
#552
it already looks overpowered just kidding. looking forward to the other 2 units they show.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 05 2011 03:35 GMT
#553
On October 05 2011 10:42 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
LOL! Blizz so dumb, they left it so you can alter the image back in Photoshop!!!
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

:3


On October 05 2011 11:05 Manifesto7 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


On October 05 2011 11:08 MrHoon wrote:
I TRIED MY BEST TEAMLIQUID

ONLY BECAUSE U DESERVE THE BEST

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On October 05 2011 11:15 GizmoPT wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


On October 05 2011 11:35 Beorning wrote:
Gave it a shot+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

New SCV with double combat shields, that can build destructible rocks.

Holy shit, I love you Team Liquid. Marry me someday.

Had some awesome laughs going through this thread.

Anyways, perhaps they are combining the Firebat and Hellion into a Transformer? I know that Blizzard wanted some kind of Biological tanking unit for Terran to make Bio more durable and viable, and the result was the infamous Marauder. Perhaps they are rethinking that design decision?

Maybe in Infantry mode it gets to become a tanking-ish Bio unit with extra armor and the ability to be healed by Medivacs, but in Vehicle mode it gets increased mobility and changes its unit type to Mechanical so that it can instead be repaired by SCVs instead of healed like Bio, though at the cost of extra armor? Perhaps it replaces both the Hellion and Marauder as a result?

Nevertheless, I hope it drops Spider Mines.
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Kujawa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States137 Posts
October 05 2011 03:36 GMT
#554
I feel like this thread is just people saying Terran is imbalanced in a passive aggressive douche way.
get the fuck out ball- hot_bid
Peanut Butter
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada155 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 03:59:37
October 05 2011 03:37 GMT
#555
Calling it now: Its a firebat that can lie on its back to move as fast as a hellion, kind of like a viking can transform.
Mmmmmmm Scorched Earth - Firebat
Did you see that? Exactly
spbelky
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States623 Posts
October 05 2011 03:38 GMT
#556
obviously you can now morph your hellions into terran banelings
BoomNasty
Profile Joined June 2011
United States265 Posts
October 05 2011 03:38 GMT
#557
the return of the firebat
I like..
saltymango
Profile Joined June 2011
United States120 Posts
October 05 2011 03:39 GMT
#558
I dont know if im the only person who feels this way, but i'm more afraid than excited about the new units i feel like hots is gonna throw sc back into beta phase where noone has any clue what to do and im gonna be sad (
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
October 05 2011 03:39 GMT
#559
On October 05 2011 12:36 Kujawa wrote:
I feel like this thread is just people saying Terran is imbalanced in a passive aggressive douche way.


If they could think beyond their all consuming ladder rage they'd realise that new terran units are a good thing because it means that Blizzard are giving T a bit of a redesign.
StarStrider
Profile Joined August 2011
United States689 Posts
October 05 2011 03:39 GMT
#560
When I say "Melee unit" I mean relatively. Firebats serve that purpose, being the up-front close range damage dealers that can also tank some damage (ie zealot). Like a melee unit. Just play Desert Strike and use the Predator as Terran.

That's what I see this unit's role as being. The difference here is they will eliminate the Hellion as a quick strike splash damage unit, and just let this serve both roles. Quick strike + splash damage + upfront/tank. But not all at once, hence transforming.
Spontaneous Pneumothorax sucks, please keep MVP sC in your thoughts. sC fighting! 힘내세요
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