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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
October 08 2011 08:21 GMT
#2221
Looks like yet another bulky mech unit... sigh. One of my problems with Terran is their immobility (removed goliaths, removed vultures, and added thor which is slooow and hellion which not as useful as hellions for mech builds).

I was hoping that in expansion, Blizzard would try to steer away such bio heavy builds and if this really is a fighting mech unit,,, then I will truly believe Blizzard has given up on making mech builds as useful as they were in Bw.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
grappasc
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium86 Posts
October 08 2011 08:23 GMT
#2222
bunker build time never worked and is now removed.

the unit is a terran counterpart to carriers. instead of interceptors, it lays down bunkers instantly.

[image loading]

if you no longer need the bunker, this new thor picks it up. can carry 8 at a time. if too many, salvage. heals marines, shoots AOE parachute bombs and cannonballs.

marines needed better support.
ohohoh
Profile Joined August 2010
4 Posts
October 08 2011 08:25 GMT
#2223
something like this chubby guy from the armory(singleplayer) in a mechsuit. with mechrepairingskills
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
October 08 2011 08:28 GMT
#2224
After reading this thread, I'm really hyped for this now :o
Can't wait!!!!
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Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 08:32:15
October 08 2011 08:30 GMT
#2225
kinda funny how one single picture of a possible new terran multiplayer unit creates such a shitstorm of racial bias and balance whine.

Atleast now i do know that...
  • ghosts are tier 1 like marines
  • only terrans dont accept that its natural to use mainly tier 1 units
    (some guy crying because the new unit might be mech)
  • terrans want to use pure tier 1 units to win
    (some guy crying because the new unit might be bio)
  • going mech is identical to going mass robo. Mass robo doesnt work so mech shouldnt work either. It does in 2/3 of the matchups though --> terran op
  • blizzard puts much more effort into terran, because the first multiplayer unit they revealed is terran even though the singleplayer campaign features zerg

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Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 08:31:29
October 08 2011 08:30 GMT
#2226
plz delete this one, i just broke my mouse =O
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RyLai
Profile Joined May 2011
United States477 Posts
October 08 2011 08:33 GMT
#2227
On October 08 2011 16:44 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Show nested quote +
My point is this: so many Terran players want to be able to just Mech. They want to produce Factory units and win. Yet you never see Protoss players who want to just be able to mass Robos and in. You never see Zerg players who want to just mass Tier 2 Zerg units and win. All of them accept that the preponderance of their army will be Tier 1. Tier 2&3 are support units, meant to augment the main army and act as force multipliers.

Only Terran players see it as their God-given right to build their army from Tier 2. Only Terran players see having their army composed primarily of Tier 1 units as being negative, even though everyone does that.

.....
Maybe because it was that way for 12 years in SC1?
Maybe because not every race should be the same?

Protoss had the same type of builds PvZ anyway, where they made only reaver/sair - the fact that these builds exist in BW makes the variety sooooooo much better than if you have to make marines every game, every matchup -_-

Show nested quote +
Mech is already viable in 2/3rds of the matchups. Does Mech really need to be the dominant playstyle in all matchups?

No, but it should be viable in al 3 matchups, like it was in BW. And its very, very, very, very far from the dominant choice in TvZ. Its not even 100% dominant in TvT wtf.

There is literally no reason to not want mech to be a possible option in each matchup, whats the problem with variety?


I should've known that it would be Jinro that put up such a reasonable post...

To add on, Mech is far from viable in TvZ against a good Zerg player. Mech has nothing remotely close to decent anti-air. You have NOTHING to deal with Mutalisks. The Mutalisks magic box the Thors, then they kill everything. If you bring Vikings, then it's a bit trickier (since Mutalisks are good against Vikings but you also don't want them to bunch up because of the Thors).

And since even before the patch, Mech wasn't 100% dominant in TvT due to the rise of pure bio builds that abuse their mobility to put he Mech player out of his rhythm and forcing responses.

Bio AND mech should both be very viable matchups similar to how Protoss has the midgame options of Colossi or Templar and Zerg has quite a few options in terms of their composition. Terran has 3 options in TvT, 1 option (in a long term game) in TvP, and 2 options in TvZ (though mech seems to lose it's timing after mass Mutalisks become a problem).

But why are we diverging from the original fun point of the thread? I'm still sad they don't have a "Super MULE" option in the voting. :[
Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
October 08 2011 08:36 GMT
#2228
Maybe those "wheels" by the units feet are actually mines? Just a thought.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
Lotar
Profile Joined September 2010
132 Posts
October 08 2011 08:37 GMT
#2229
On October 08 2011 17:33 RyLai wrote:
Mech has nothing remotely close to decent anti-air.

Somehow, this sounds like an exaggeration.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
October 08 2011 08:45 GMT
#2230
On October 08 2011 17:37 Lotar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:33 RyLai wrote:
Mech has nothing remotely close to decent anti-air.

Somehow, this sounds like an exaggeration.


Hes sort of right and its the reason when you see mech inTvT that one banshee kills like 5 tanks just because a Thor isnt going to do the dmg you need.
grappasc
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium86 Posts
October 08 2011 08:50 GMT
#2231
On October 08 2011 17:45 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:37 Lotar wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:33 RyLai wrote:
Mech has nothing remotely close to decent anti-air.

Somehow, this sounds like an exaggeration.


Hes sort of right and its the reason when you see mech inTvT that one banshee kills like 5 tanks just because a Thor isnt going to do the dmg you need.

I see, and this is because mech only includes factory units.

turrets are buildings and vikings are... bio.
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
October 08 2011 09:01 GMT
#2232
On October 08 2011 17:45 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:37 Lotar wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:33 RyLai wrote:
Mech has nothing remotely close to decent anti-air.

Somehow, this sounds like an exaggeration.


Hes sort of right and its the reason when you see mech inTvT that one banshee kills like 5 tanks just because a Thor isnt going to do the dmg you need.


o_O i hope u r trolling because thors rape banshees :O
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
October 08 2011 09:03 GMT
#2233
On October 08 2011 17:45 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 17:37 Lotar wrote:
On October 08 2011 17:33 RyLai wrote:
Mech has nothing remotely close to decent anti-air.

Somehow, this sounds like an exaggeration.


Hes sort of right and its the reason when you see mech inTvT that one banshee kills like 5 tanks just because a Thor isnt going to do the dmg you need.


One thor kills a banshee before the banshee kills a single tank. So i guess you trolled me. If you were serious though, your parents trolled me i guess.
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grappasc
Profile Joined September 2011
Belgium86 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 09:27:48
October 08 2011 09:06 GMT
#2234
hahaha, see what you did, razy? you enabled a debate about thor vs banshee. I knew this would happen after you said what you said.

edit: "this" as in more people touching this turd of a subject

edit2 after razy answers me: I agree with you, but people will come up with stuff.
let's see, someone argues that thor is too slow to be where you need them. the straight comparison of dps is therefore "retarded". and the 1 banshee killing tanks was an exaggeration and there's actually normally more banshees. and the tanks aren't full health when the banshee chases them. and the reason you didn't realize this is because you're a gold league noob, who doesn't watch koreans play. this started because someone said a really dumb thing about mech not having antiair.

I hope I'm wrong
razy
Profile Joined February 2010
Russian Federation899 Posts
October 08 2011 09:18 GMT
#2235
there is nothing to start debating about. couple of thors will kill an infinite number of shees, u can check it urself if u want :O
Daralii
Profile Joined March 2010
United States16991 Posts
October 08 2011 09:19 GMT
#2236
On October 08 2011 17:36 Amlitzer wrote:
Maybe those "wheels" by the units feet are actually mines? Just a thought.

I don't think mines normally have tire treads. =/
Fear is freedom! Subjugation is liberation! Contradiction is truth!
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
October 08 2011 10:11 GMT
#2237
On October 08 2011 14:35 danl9rm wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 08 2011 14:31 saltymango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 14:24 Geovu wrote:
On October 08 2011 04:30 nerak wrote:
On October 08 2011 04:00 Chargelot wrote:
On October 08 2011 03:04 Xpace wrote:
- Fastest ground unit in the game


Have you ever seen a speedling?

Hellions: 4.25
Speedling: 4.6991
Speedling on creep: 6.10883


Hellion with legs: 6,803

I love how technically you didn't use a decimal, so you are saying a hellion with legs would cross the map in under 1 second.



In a lot of countries the , is the decimal in a number


America is the Apple of the real world. We just have to be different. Even when it doesn't make sense. (Here's looking at you one-button mouse.)


Ok, but seriously, the comma being the decimal doesn't make sense.


Same as meters not making sense? and Kilometers? (Clicks in american millitary language).
Different doesn't mean better, and comma is the decimal point in many languages
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
sereniity
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Sweden1159 Posts
October 08 2011 10:17 GMT
#2238
On October 08 2011 14:35 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 14:31 saltymango wrote:
On October 08 2011 14:24 Geovu wrote:
On October 08 2011 04:30 nerak wrote:
On October 08 2011 04:00 Chargelot wrote:
On October 08 2011 03:04 Xpace wrote:
- Fastest ground unit in the game


Have you ever seen a speedling?

Hellions: 4.25
Speedling: 4.6991
Speedling on creep: 6.10883


Hellion with legs: 6,803

I love how technically you didn't use a decimal, so you are saying a hellion with legs would cross the map in under 1 second.



In a lot of countries the , is the decimal in a number


America is the Apple of the real world. We just have to be different. Even when it doesn't make sense. (Here's looking at you one-button mouse.)

Ok, but seriously, the comma being the decimal doesn't make sense.


Having your fibre cables in the air just above the traffic doesn't make sense neither
"I am Day9, Holy shit!"
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
October 08 2011 10:31 GMT
#2239
On October 08 2011 17:50 grappasc wrote:
turrets are buildings and vikings are... bio.


There are 3 upgrade paths for Terran: bio, mech and air.
There are 3 production facilities: barracks, factory and starport.

Now, try again:
turrets are buildings and vikings are...

a.) bio
b.) mech
c.) air
d.) they can be repaired so they share upgrades with factory units herp derp
e.) terran op

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exnomendei
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands122 Posts
October 08 2011 10:32 GMT
#2240
This thread is now about the differences between USA and Europe, and not about the Trans-hellion-former.
Trying something wacky, expanding it, adjusting it, perfecting it -> Build order
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