I don't think ESPN would be interested in showing BW, but sc2? I can see it working.. but I agree with the other poster that replays or vods would make for much better fare. Maybe have a few live events every now and then if the demand is there.
On October 04 2011 10:13 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Here's an idea:
Play ads during the game in one of the corners, where there's normally just an overlay with the tournament logo.
These could be static ads which rotate, or video ads which come on intermittently.
I'm sure this idea could be refined, but this could allow near constant advertisement with static or animated ads, or not interrupt game-flow with video ads.
Basically, they use the empty space which is normally just reserved for the tournament logo.
I would refuse to watch on ESPN if they had constant ads like this, or if the Ads blocked any gameplay. Its the whole reason I refuse to take off adblock; I got sick and tired of missing bits of gameplay due to an ad rolling around.
I think replayed games would be the best run on a TV, because you know how long the game will be and thus you know when/how long you need to run your ad breaks. Hell, I wouldn't mind (as much as I already mind regular ads) if they paused the game right after an intense battle to do an ad run, then resume just after (seamless transition on tv, of course)
You wouldn't miss any of the game. In fact, you already see ads like this on almost every tournament stream, and some player streams as well. Adblock doesn't help either, as it has to do with the streamer and not the page it's being streamed on.
Next time DJWheat is streaming something, check out the ads to either side of the unit portraits, and the show logo above the unit command card. you wouldn't even need to put it in three places, as you could just plop one ad over the unit command card and be done with it.
The only difference between this and the ads already being used, is that they would cycle, instead of staying the same constantly.
On October 03 2011 10:31 bigbadgreen wrote: I would love to see SC2 on espn. I would dvr it, and promote it to friends. To blow up arguements being put against it there are valid comparisons to other programing already on espn. You can get sponsors to pay for in game ads so you don't have to cut away. This exact thing is implemented in both soccer and racing. They can either have a small banner and have a bigger blow up that says this broadcast is brought to you commercial free by whoever, or like espn ahs already done with IRL racing, they can splitscreen commercials and if anything exciting happens blow up the action and get back to the commercials when they can.
The time thing. Many other sports often don't follow their projected time slots. Overtime is a huge one. Sports all the time are tied and need overtime. Programs are rearranged all the time to accomodate these things. Things like golf, tennis and baseball are widely unpredictable reguarding time estimates. Nascar is interrupted all the time by rain and the announcers have to use all kinds of filler stories to kill time. Similar things can be done with SC2.
Third is the secret weapon of SC2. Day 9. Plain and simple he is an awesome abassador. He can relate to the general public. If joe public tunes in and hears day 9 and his excitment and approach to the game they will be sucked in. Excitement breeds excitement. He has developed a way to relate the game to the general public. I'm not even sure if he has realized how much he has honed this skill through his dailies. Newbie tuesday is custom catered to people who don't know everything about the game and breaks it down into easy to understand content.
I think with all of these things going as well as the growth of esports it's atleast worth looking at and I'm glad espn and sc2 promoters are coming together. In the mind of the general public tv legitimizes things. If it's on tv then it's for real. This could be the push that SC2 needs to really break wide open. If it fails it won't effect anything anyways because the structure for streaming and the community following is already there.
I can't agree with the Day9 bit. I love Day9, and love watching his dailies and hearing him cast, but he is waaaayyyy too much of a nerd for the average sports watcher. When I started watching SC, even I was off-put a bit with his style and look. Someone like Husky would be far better. Not that Husky is better, but he is just a lot more like a "regular" sporting event caster that doesn't explain overly much, but just follows the action with enthusiasm, and keeps a really good, entertaining word flow going. When you're just starting to watch SC2, hearing Day9 orgasm over a well-timed 1 gate/robo FE build...is just a little weird.
i've not read 40 pages so it may have been mentioned, i do hope that if anything was on espn it wouldn't fuck the rest of the world over with some "no internet streams advertising cash money all to ourselves meow chow" standardness
On October 03 2011 10:31 bigbadgreen wrote: I would love to see SC2 on espn. I would dvr it, and promote it to friends. To blow up arguements being put against it there are valid comparisons to other programing already on espn. You can get sponsors to pay for in game ads so you don't have to cut away. This exact thing is implemented in both soccer and racing. They can either have a small banner and have a bigger blow up that says this broadcast is brought to you commercial free by whoever, or like espn ahs already done with IRL racing, they can splitscreen commercials and if anything exciting happens blow up the action and get back to the commercials when they can.
The time thing. Many other sports often don't follow their projected time slots. Overtime is a huge one. Sports all the time are tied and need overtime. Programs are rearranged all the time to accomodate these things. Things like golf, tennis and baseball are widely unpredictable reguarding time estimates. Nascar is interrupted all the time by rain and the announcers have to use all kinds of filler stories to kill time. Similar things can be done with SC2.
Third is the secret weapon of SC2. Day 9. Plain and simple he is an awesome abassador. He can relate to the general public. If joe public tunes in and hears day 9 and his excitment and approach to the game they will be sucked in. Excitement breeds excitement. He has developed a way to relate the game to the general public. I'm not even sure if he has realized how much he has honed this skill through his dailies. Newbie tuesday is custom catered to people who don't know everything about the game and breaks it down into easy to understand content.
I think with all of these things going as well as the growth of esports it's atleast worth looking at and I'm glad espn and sc2 promoters are coming together. In the mind of the general public tv legitimizes things. If it's on tv then it's for real. This could be the push that SC2 needs to really break wide open. If it fails it won't effect anything anyways because the structure for streaming and the community following is already there.
I can't agree with the Day9 bit. I love Day9, and love watching his dailies and hearing him cast, but he is waaaayyyy too much of a nerd for the average sports watcher. When I started watching SC, even I was off-put a bit with his style and look. Someone like Husky would be far better. Not that Husky is better, but he is just a lot more like a "regular" sporting event caster that doesn't explain overly much, but just follows the action with enthusiasm, and keeps a really good, entertaining word flow going. When you're just starting to watch SC2, hearing Day9 orgasm over a well-timed 1 gate/robo FE build...is just a little weird.
I understand what you are saying, but i think we should give it a shot and release him to the world. I think he is a great icon for us and really represents who we are. I mean sure, we could get ESPN to hire hunky casters who also have superior knowledge about the game, but then it would be like any other casters. People like Day 9 make SC2 what it is, and we should be proud
I'm all for it, but it would be very hard for espn to pull off. Games can last 30 minutes plus easily, and they would have to somehow run commercials for their ad revenue to make it work for them...and unless they pull off a soccer style ad agreement they would need to run commercials during the middle of games.
It only really makes sense if the games weren't shown live for this reason.
Who knows though, I'm sure they could think of something. They did make poker incredibly fun to watch (at least for me) and boomed that industry the past decade.
On October 03 2011 10:31 bigbadgreen wrote: I would love to see SC2 on espn. I would dvr it, and promote it to friends. To blow up arguements being put against it there are valid comparisons to other programing already on espn. You can get sponsors to pay for in game ads so you don't have to cut away. This exact thing is implemented in both soccer and racing. They can either have a small banner and have a bigger blow up that says this broadcast is brought to you commercial free by whoever, or like espn ahs already done with IRL racing, they can splitscreen commercials and if anything exciting happens blow up the action and get back to the commercials when they can.
The time thing. Many other sports often don't follow their projected time slots. Overtime is a huge one. Sports all the time are tied and need overtime. Programs are rearranged all the time to accomodate these things. Things like golf, tennis and baseball are widely unpredictable reguarding time estimates. Nascar is interrupted all the time by rain and the announcers have to use all kinds of filler stories to kill time. Similar things can be done with SC2.
Third is the secret weapon of SC2. Day 9. Plain and simple he is an awesome abassador. He can relate to the general public. If joe public tunes in and hears day 9 and his excitment and approach to the game they will be sucked in. Excitement breeds excitement. He has developed a way to relate the game to the general public. I'm not even sure if he has realized how much he has honed this skill through his dailies. Newbie tuesday is custom catered to people who don't know everything about the game and breaks it down into easy to understand content.
I think with all of these things going as well as the growth of esports it's atleast worth looking at and I'm glad espn and sc2 promoters are coming together. In the mind of the general public tv legitimizes things. If it's on tv then it's for real. This could be the push that SC2 needs to really break wide open. If it fails it won't effect anything anyways because the structure for streaming and the community following is already there.
I can't agree with the Day9 bit. I love Day9, and love watching his dailies and hearing him cast, but he is waaaayyyy too much of a nerd for the average sports watcher. When I started watching SC, even I was off-put a bit with his style and look. Someone like Husky would be far better. Not that Husky is better, but he is just a lot more like a "regular" sporting event caster that doesn't explain overly much, but just follows the action with enthusiasm, and keeps a really good, entertaining word flow going. When you're just starting to watch SC2, hearing Day9 orgasm over a well-timed 1 gate/robo FE build...is just a little weird.
The nerd can be tamed. Thats a sportscaster right there.
On October 03 2011 10:31 bigbadgreen wrote: I would love to see SC2 on espn. I would dvr it, and promote it to friends. To blow up arguements being put against it there are valid comparisons to other programing already on espn. You can get sponsors to pay for in game ads so you don't have to cut away. This exact thing is implemented in both soccer and racing. They can either have a small banner and have a bigger blow up that says this broadcast is brought to you commercial free by whoever, or like espn ahs already done with IRL racing, they can splitscreen commercials and if anything exciting happens blow up the action and get back to the commercials when they can.
The time thing. Many other sports often don't follow their projected time slots. Overtime is a huge one. Sports all the time are tied and need overtime. Programs are rearranged all the time to accomodate these things. Things like golf, tennis and baseball are widely unpredictable reguarding time estimates. Nascar is interrupted all the time by rain and the announcers have to use all kinds of filler stories to kill time. Similar things can be done with SC2.
Third is the secret weapon of SC2. Day 9. Plain and simple he is an awesome abassador. He can relate to the general public. If joe public tunes in and hears day 9 and his excitment and approach to the game they will be sucked in. Excitement breeds excitement. He has developed a way to relate the game to the general public. I'm not even sure if he has realized how much he has honed this skill through his dailies. Newbie tuesday is custom catered to people who don't know everything about the game and breaks it down into easy to understand content.
I think with all of these things going as well as the growth of esports it's atleast worth looking at and I'm glad espn and sc2 promoters are coming together. In the mind of the general public tv legitimizes things. If it's on tv then it's for real. This could be the push that SC2 needs to really break wide open. If it fails it won't effect anything anyways because the structure for streaming and the community following is already there.
I can't agree with the Day9 bit. I love Day9, and love watching his dailies and hearing him cast, but he is waaaayyyy too much of a nerd for the average sports watcher. When I started watching SC, even I was off-put a bit with his style and look. Someone like Husky would be far better. Not that Husky is better, but he is just a lot more like a "regular" sporting event caster that doesn't explain overly much, but just follows the action with enthusiasm, and keeps a really good, entertaining word flow going. When you're just starting to watch SC2, hearing Day9 orgasm over a well-timed 1 gate/robo FE build...is just a little weird.
I understand what you are saying, but i think we should give it a shot and release him to the world. I think he is a great icon for us and really represents who we are. I mean sure, we could get ESPN to hire hunky casters who also have superior knowledge about the game, but then it would be like any other casters. People like Day 9 make SC2 what it is, and we should be proud
(but yes, the nerdiness is very apparent)
I think Tasteless would be the best mainstream caster, I often times imagine him and John Madden just yelling about things. He would fit in perfectly. I like him right where he is in Korea though.
On October 03 2011 10:31 bigbadgreen wrote: I would love to see SC2 on espn. I would dvr it, and promote it to friends. To blow up arguements being put against it there are valid comparisons to other programing already on espn. You can get sponsors to pay for in game ads so you don't have to cut away. This exact thing is implemented in both soccer and racing. They can either have a small banner and have a bigger blow up that says this broadcast is brought to you commercial free by whoever, or like espn ahs already done with IRL racing, they can splitscreen commercials and if anything exciting happens blow up the action and get back to the commercials when they can.
The time thing. Many other sports often don't follow their projected time slots. Overtime is a huge one. Sports all the time are tied and need overtime. Programs are rearranged all the time to accomodate these things. Things like golf, tennis and baseball are widely unpredictable reguarding time estimates. Nascar is interrupted all the time by rain and the announcers have to use all kinds of filler stories to kill time. Similar things can be done with SC2.
Third is the secret weapon of SC2. Day 9. Plain and simple he is an awesome abassador. He can relate to the general public. If joe public tunes in and hears day 9 and his excitment and approach to the game they will be sucked in. Excitement breeds excitement. He has developed a way to relate the game to the general public. I'm not even sure if he has realized how much he has honed this skill through his dailies. Newbie tuesday is custom catered to people who don't know everything about the game and breaks it down into easy to understand content.
I think with all of these things going as well as the growth of esports it's atleast worth looking at and I'm glad espn and sc2 promoters are coming together. In the mind of the general public tv legitimizes things. If it's on tv then it's for real. This could be the push that SC2 needs to really break wide open. If it fails it won't effect anything anyways because the structure for streaming and the community following is already there.
I can't agree with the Day9 bit. I love Day9, and love watching his dailies and hearing him cast, but he is waaaayyyy too much of a nerd for the average sports watcher. When I started watching SC, even I was off-put a bit with his style and look. Someone like Husky would be far better. Not that Husky is better, but he is just a lot more like a "regular" sporting event caster that doesn't explain overly much, but just follows the action with enthusiasm, and keeps a really good, entertaining word flow going. When you're just starting to watch SC2, hearing Day9 orgasm over a well-timed 1 gate/robo FE build...is just a little weird.
The nerd can be tamed. Thats a sportscaster right there.
Would love an update on how the meetings went, i know we should not expect one for a while or when an announcement is going to be made. But one can dream
On October 03 2011 10:31 bigbadgreen wrote: I would love to see SC2 on espn. I would dvr it, and promote it to friends. To blow up arguements being put against it there are valid comparisons to other programing already on espn. You can get sponsors to pay for in game ads so you don't have to cut away. This exact thing is implemented in both soccer and racing. They can either have a small banner and have a bigger blow up that says this broadcast is brought to you commercial free by whoever, or like espn ahs already done with IRL racing, they can splitscreen commercials and if anything exciting happens blow up the action and get back to the commercials when they can.
The time thing. Many other sports often don't follow their projected time slots. Overtime is a huge one. Sports all the time are tied and need overtime. Programs are rearranged all the time to accomodate these things. Things like golf, tennis and baseball are widely unpredictable reguarding time estimates. Nascar is interrupted all the time by rain and the announcers have to use all kinds of filler stories to kill time. Similar things can be done with SC2.
Third is the secret weapon of SC2. Day 9. Plain and simple he is an awesome abassador. He can relate to the general public. If joe public tunes in and hears day 9 and his excitment and approach to the game they will be sucked in. Excitement breeds excitement. He has developed a way to relate the game to the general public. I'm not even sure if he has realized how much he has honed this skill through his dailies. Newbie tuesday is custom catered to people who don't know everything about the game and breaks it down into easy to understand content.
I think with all of these things going as well as the growth of esports it's atleast worth looking at and I'm glad espn and sc2 promoters are coming together. In the mind of the general public tv legitimizes things. If it's on tv then it's for real. This could be the push that SC2 needs to really break wide open. If it fails it won't effect anything anyways because the structure for streaming and the community following is already there.
I can't agree with the Day9 bit. I love Day9, and love watching his dailies and hearing him cast, but he is waaaayyyy too much of a nerd for the average sports watcher. When I started watching SC, even I was off-put a bit with his style and look. Someone like Husky would be far better. Not that Husky is better, but he is just a lot more like a "regular" sporting event caster that doesn't explain overly much, but just follows the action with enthusiasm, and keeps a really good, entertaining word flow going. When you're just starting to watch SC2, hearing Day9 orgasm over a well-timed 1 gate/robo FE build...is just a little weird.
The nerd can be tamed. Thats a sportscaster right there.
I hope thats a real product Thats fucking awesome! nicely done sir
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