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Kanidan
Profile Joined October 2011
United States8 Posts
October 07 2011 16:22 GMT
#821
I don't think they would have to control the pace of the games. Like people were saying that the games cannot be one sided, or boring. There are plenty of NFL games where one team completely dominates the other team. And there are also games where the score is 3-6 at the end of it.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
October 07 2011 16:40 GMT
#822
if all the major events went to TV ... wouldnt that screw twitch over? Also what about sc2 fans that dont have espn?
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
bLooD.
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany470 Posts
October 07 2011 16:43 GMT
#823
On October 08 2011 01:40 Archybaldie wrote:
if all the major events went to TV ... wouldnt that screw twitch over? Also what about sc2 fans that dont have espn?

Even if they start to broadcast over ESPN, why would they stop broadcasting over the internet?
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
October 07 2011 16:47 GMT
#824
Hell yeah! I mean if they are going to broadcast these godawful poker tournaments then why not?
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
October 07 2011 16:47 GMT
#825
How could it be any less popular than the poker tournaments they show?
Freeeeeeedom
tutsicockroach
Profile Joined March 2011
United States57 Posts
October 07 2011 16:53 GMT
#826
whoever says no should be shot. jk

it would be a huge breakthrough in the NA esports scene. it would be one step closer to bring esports in america to how it is in korea.
ownage
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
October 07 2011 16:56 GMT
#827
YES ! :O
StrifeIsBack
Profile Joined September 2011
United States31 Posts
October 07 2011 17:57 GMT
#828
I'd like to know from the 200 something odd people why the hell they voted No. o_o Are you insane?
Infinity Gaming | o_O | O_o |
-ForeverAlone-
Profile Joined June 2011
274 Posts
October 07 2011 18:05 GMT
#829
On October 08 2011 02:57 Bane.RemedY wrote:
I'd like to know from the 200 something odd people why the hell they voted No. o_o Are you insane?

Some people genuinely think that television is a bad format for SC2 matches because of:
-Lack of solid time slots for each match
-Removes the independent broadcasting approach that is happening now
-Shifts focus away from Internet broadcasting

and I'm sure there are tons of other reasons...
omg terran is hard to play
Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 18:19:31
October 07 2011 18:18 GMT
#830
On October 08 2011 03:05 -ForeverAlone- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 02:57 Bane.RemedY wrote:
I'd like to know from the 200 something odd people why the hell they voted No. o_o Are you insane?

Some people genuinely think that television is a bad format for SC2 matches because of:
-Lack of solid time slots for each match
-Removes the independent broadcasting approach that is happening now
-Shifts focus away from Internet broadcasting

and I'm sure there are tons of other reasons...


The biggest complaint I've heard about SC2 on TV is the time format thing but people only have compared it to shows that air regularly for a specific time window (i.e. 30 minute sitcoms on abc). Sporting events of any kind don't really follow that model though.

Baseball, football and basketball games run long all the time. They have more time than they think it will take to play the game but sometimes it takes longer. In the sports world you can't account for every time delay so the networks just have an understanding that when they air something like that it may take longer than the allotted time to broadcast the entire thing.

That being said I'm sure that it's possible for them to interpret using it in a 30 minute time slot as a "good idea" which we all know would obviously not work, but if they are willing to give it the room to breathe and they take their commercial breaks in between sets I don't see any reason why it can't work in a television format.
http://www.youtube.com/SCBattleGrounds
Ignorant prodigy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States385 Posts
October 07 2011 18:20 GMT
#831
On October 08 2011 01:47 cLutZ wrote:
How could it be any less popular than the poker tournaments they show?



Whoa whoa whoa.. I’m as much a SC fan as the next guy.. but there’s a HUGE difference
Complete apples and oranges argument.

For one.. the world series of poker has cash prizes in the MILLIONS…. Secondly don’t under estimate poker’s following… it’s enormously more popular than SC2.
Also the demographic who watches ESPN I would say does not directly correspond to that of computer gamers.

Would I like to see it.. absolutely.. but comparing it to poker tournaments is just crazy talk
http://www.twitch.tv/ignorantprodigy playing masters random with no hotkeys......big pimpin'
SnuggleZhenya
Profile Joined July 2010
596 Posts
October 07 2011 18:21 GMT
#832
I'd like to see it on ESPN, but at the same time, I wouldn't actually watch it, I don't have cable in part because internet streaming is just plain more convenient for me. If they were to put it on www.espn3.com however, I'd be real happy.
You'll never get better being an angry nerd sitting alone in your room.
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 07 2011 18:25 GMT
#833
On October 06 2011 21:03 Ketch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 03:50 IMSmooth wrote:
I cant wait for Nike to make a ESPORTS line after recognition from espn. Finally have someone other than razor sponsor EVERY team :p

NIKE: Just All-In


You mean:



?

Awesome ad!

Kim Nam Gyu is all in.
Jaedong.
strikerz200
Profile Joined September 2011
58 Posts
October 07 2011 18:27 GMT
#834
People may be excited now that MLG might go on ESPN2 but, in reality noone is going to watch it on tv. Why? because it costs money which is something that I find people don't like to spend for some reason. This is going to be a big downfall for MLG CEO, believe it or not....

Why not ESPN? don't go ESPN2, that spells f a i l u r e....
you have to realize nobody watches TV nowadays. not to mention MLG matches are every once few hours.... and it's just much convenient and easier to follow e-sports on the internet via teamliquid.net twitter/facebook.

If you want ppl to watch MLG on TV, it must be FREE of Charge. Mark my words, not as many people will stick up with what they said and buy ESPN2.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
October 07 2011 18:45 GMT
#835
On October 08 2011 03:18 Achaia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2011 03:05 -ForeverAlone- wrote:
On October 08 2011 02:57 Bane.RemedY wrote:
I'd like to know from the 200 something odd people why the hell they voted No. o_o Are you insane?

Some people genuinely think that television is a bad format for SC2 matches because of:
-Lack of solid time slots for each match
-Removes the independent broadcasting approach that is happening now
-Shifts focus away from Internet broadcasting

and I'm sure there are tons of other reasons...


The biggest complaint I've heard about SC2 on TV is the time format thing but people only have compared it to shows that air regularly for a specific time window (i.e. 30 minute sitcoms on abc). Sporting events of any kind don't really follow that model though.

Baseball, football and basketball games run long all the time. They have more time than they think it will take to play the game but sometimes it takes longer. In the sports world you can't account for every time delay so the networks just have an understanding that when they air something like that it may take longer than the allotted time to broadcast the entire thing.

That being said I'm sure that it's possible for them to interpret using it in a 30 minute time slot as a "good idea" which we all know would obviously not work, but if they are willing to give it the room to breathe and they take their commercial breaks in between sets I don't see any reason why it can't work in a television format.

You are comparing world wide known sports to a video game.
The same rules do no apply.
Also, the question was "would you tune in?" so why you ppl say yes when they simply won't?
zeek0us
Profile Joined October 2010
United States67 Posts
October 07 2011 18:48 GMT
#836
Wow, people seem genuinely excited at the prospect of this happening, but I can't imagine in a million years ESPN putting a videogame on the air, unless we're talking at 4 am. Ratings for something like ESPN or ESPN2 are measured in hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of viewers. Even huge streams for SC2 pull, what, 20k?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have SC2 on TV and I'd definitely watch it, but I'd also love if all the highest rated shows (what are they, 2 1/2 Men and NCIS or something?) were canceled, along with every reality show and replaced with something much nerdier . . . so I've learned that my tastes in no way coincide with 99% of the population, and those are the people whose atrocious sensibilities dictate what's on TV.

I could see a niche cable station airing some Starcraft, but it would have to be one that isn't selling advertising based on the expectation of more than a few tens of thousands of viewers.
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
October 07 2011 20:27 GMT
#837
On October 08 2011 01:40 Archybaldie wrote:
if all the major events went to TV ... wouldnt that screw twitch over? Also what about sc2 fans that dont have espn?


What about football fans that don't have Sky Sports? It's the same thing with any sport.
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
October 07 2011 20:34 GMT
#838
arghhh you guys keep bumping this thread making me think that there are updates from Sundance =(
roymarthyup
Profile Joined April 2010
1442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 20:38:46
October 07 2011 20:38 GMT
#839
about commercial breaks for live games. what about pausing a game and having a few minute commercial break in the game pause?


i think it would be interesting, heh
Bedrock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States395 Posts
October 07 2011 20:39 GMT
#840
I think the right medium for something like SC2 would be to create a channel on ESPN360. I think SC2's home is the online space and after that is established, they can consider going to a bigger audience over TV.

Step 1: ESPN360 + WatchESPN

Step 2: If audience is big, move to bigger mediums.
eSports or die tryin'
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