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On October 08 2011 05:39 Bedrock wrote: I think the right medium for something like SC2 would be to create a channel on ESPN360. I think SC2's home is the online space and after that is established, they can consider going to a bigger audience over TV.
Step 1: ESPN360 + WatchESPN
Step 2: If audience is big, move to bigger mediums.
Agreed. People who are voting yes but have no intention of watching the games on ESPN are hurting esports.
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On October 08 2011 05:38 roymarthyup wrote: about commercial breaks for live games. what about pausing a game and having a few minute commercial break in the game pause?
i think it would be interesting, heh Yea i am sure pro gamers will be pleased with that...
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I think it would be interesting to see SC2 on television. IMO its worth a try.
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internet is the new tv why watch it on the tv when i can just watch it on the computer with no commericials
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On October 08 2011 07:14 naux wrote: internet is the new tv why watch it on the tv when i can just watch it on the computer with no commericials
Because streams still have terrible quality compared to television.
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On October 08 2011 07:14 naux wrote: internet is the new tv why watch it on the tv when i can just watch it on the computer with no commericials
Cuz i don't feel like paying tons of money a month in order to have good enough internet for 1080p without lagging the rest of my house. In addition to the tickets to watch the premium stream.
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On October 08 2011 12:19 GinDo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 07:14 naux wrote: internet is the new tv why watch it on the tv when i can just watch it on the computer with no commericials Cuz i don't feel like paying tons of money a month in order to have good enough internet for 1080p without lagging the rest of my house. In addition to the tickets to watch the premium stream. Point one I can agree with, but point number 2, a cable package is much more expensive, and with streams you can at least pick and choose, so if you want MLG and not NASL you can just get that, but with cable you get every channel, and all the costs associated with them.
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I would do everything to this channel
I would eat to it I would sleep with it I would invite friends over and let it join our friend group I would dance alone in its presence I would invent songs to sing in front of it I would profess my love to it I would shine my shoes beside it I would dress up in the morning with 2 blacks socks and a 6 pool I would refuse to change the channel when other people came over and requested it I would be one with it I would break the sanction of infidelity with it I would run on a treadmill for a half marathon observing it I would act like it's not there, leave the room, come back in and re-discover it I would shadowbox it I would project it from my apartment onto the street I would cherish it
I would like it.
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So is this actually going to happen? You ask starcraft fans if they will watch starcraft, and you expect to get a lot of no's...? I really feel like asking the starcraft community is pointless. Either tell us it is happening and give us the news of when or dont even hype it up if it isnt going to happen in the first place. It's great that you are "in talks" with ESPN, but why even ask? Will the two people who reply to you on twitter saying "yes" or "no" dictate a decision so big with potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line? It shouldnt. So if it is gonna happen then tell us already. Dont string us along and give false hope.
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On October 08 2011 12:28 zmansman17 wrote: I would do everything to this channel
I would eat to it I would sleep with it I would invite friends over and let it join our friend group I would dance alone in its presence I would invent songs to sing in front of it I would profess my love to it I would shine my shoes beside it I would dress up in the morning with 2 blacks socks and a 6 pool I would refuse to change the channel when other people came over and requested it I would be one with it I would break the sanction of infidelity with it I would run on a treadmill for a half marathon observing it I would act like it's not there, leave the room, come back in and re-discover it I would shadowbox it I would project it from my apartment onto the street I would cherish it
I would like it.
But will you put a ring on it?
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On October 09 2011 15:37 StickNMove wrote: So is this actually going to happen? You ask starcraft fans if they will watch starcraft, and you expect to get a lot of no's...? I really feel like asking the starcraft community is pointless. Either tell us it is happening and give us the news of when or dont even hype it up if it isnt going to happen in the first place. It's great that you are "in talks" with ESPN, but why even ask? Will the two people who reply to you on twitter saying "yes" or "no" dictate a decision so big with potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars on the line? It shouldnt. So if it is gonna happen then tell us already. Dont string us along and give false hope. Stuff like this takes time dude. He asked like a week ago. And i highly doubt it would take place this season. He asked to show the tv executives that people will watch. Seeing thousands of people reply on twitter/TL/reddit in an hour does make an impression to TV executives.
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a big flaw in his approach is that a fair chunk of the twitter and reddit SC community are college aged kids like myself who don't even have cable TV.
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I was thinking about this and i'm sure a lot of people have said this already, but haven't we reached a point of time where TV has become semi abolished? let's ask ourselves a question - would you rather turn on your TV to watch SC2 on ESPN, with probably a larger amount of commercials, or would you rather use your computer to stream the content?
Sure, TV's generally have a larger display, and are easier to have larger groups of people tune into, but TV's (generally) have less capability than modern video streaming software. For example IPL3 allowed us to control our streamer by letting us watch player cameras, two streams at once on the same page etc. This is something that would probably be difficult to control without an application - something that will only be found on fairly modern and fairly expensive Televisions. So the question here is really - What is more convenient for the viewers?
But there is also another issue - exposure. If SC2 was broadcasted on mainstream sports network it would expose e-sports to the mainstream world, which is a very large audience. A larger audience means more sponsors and will cause existing sponsors to throw even more money at the scene because of the amount of attention its receiving. A larger audience would also probably cause the form of an organisation - similar to Kespa, except for the western world. This would cause E-sports to work similar to physical sports do (even though they already kind of do) except on a broader level, no doubt with more money involved.
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i dunno how anyone can actually say this is a bad thing. Worst that happens is it doesnt work out and it goes back to online streams and still is just as big and still growing. Best case it becomes mega big :D
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On October 09 2011 15:38 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 12:28 zmansman17 wrote: I would do everything to this channel
I would eat to it I would sleep with it I would invite friends over and let it join our friend group I would dance alone in its presence I would invent songs to sing in front of it I would profess my love to it I would shine my shoes beside it I would dress up in the morning with 2 blacks socks and a 6 pool I would refuse to change the channel when other people came over and requested it I would be one with it I would break the sanction of infidelity with it I would run on a treadmill for a half marathon observing it I would act like it's not there, leave the room, come back in and re-discover it I would shadowbox it I would project it from my apartment onto the street I would cherish it
I would like it.
But will you put a ring on it? If he likes it, then he better put a ring on it.
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On October 12 2011 15:33 Terranist wrote: a big flaw in his approach is that a fair chunk of the twitter and reddit SC community are college aged kids like myself who don't even have cable TV.
that's not true. I would think lots of college students do have cable. We watch sports all the time and I watch espn quite frequently.
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On October 12 2011 15:45 Animism wrote: I was thinking about this and i'm sure a lot of people have said this already, but haven't we reached a point of time where TV has become semi abolished? let's ask ourselves a question - would you rather turn on your TV to watch SC2 on ESPN, with probably a larger amount of commercials, or would you rather use your computer to stream the content?
Sure, TV's generally have a larger display, and are easier to have larger groups of people tune into, but TV's (generally) have less capability than modern video streaming software. For example IPL3 allowed us to control our streamer by letting us watch player cameras, two streams at once on the same page etc. This is something that would probably be difficult to control without an application - something that will only be found on fairly modern and fairly expensive Televisions. So the question here is really - What is more convenient for the viewers?
all good points but having possibility of running into a sc2 broadcast while surfing channels sounds quite appealing to me.
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On October 08 2011 12:13 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 07:14 naux wrote: internet is the new tv why watch it on the tv when i can just watch it on the computer with no commericials Because streams still have terrible quality compared to television. Wrong. 1) It's still in it's beginning phase, so we are nowhere near the maximum. 2) Many issues are due to the lack of good interent connection on the consumer side 3) Big companies, at least here in germany, have streaming services. They rock.
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On October 08 2011 12:13 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On October 08 2011 07:14 naux wrote: internet is the new tv why watch it on the tv when i can just watch it on the computer with no commericials Because streams still have terrible quality compared to television. IPL3 looked better than my TV. Granted I don't have an HD TV but many people don't still...
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