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Tehs Tehklz
United States330 Posts
On October 03 2011 09:29 crocodile wrote: Your profile says you're from Belgium. Do you not understand what the word "or" means? ...do you? I cannot imagine in what way you have interpreted that definition so that it would include video games. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On October 03 2011 09:29 crocodile wrote: Your profile says you're from Belgium. Do you not understand what the word "or" means? Oh i do, except it seems not in the middle of the night. Sorry for that, my mistake. also, its quite lame to say stuff like that but thanks for filling the stereotypical american bucket some more. | ||
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CaptainSlow
Malaysia164 Posts
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Tehs Tehklz
United States330 Posts
On October 03 2011 09:56 Assirra wrote: Oh i do, except it seems not in the middle of the night. Sorry for that, my mistake. also, its quite lame to say stuff like that but thanks for filling the stereotypical american bucket some more. What? No, you didn't make a mistake. That definition says that a sport is an athletic activity. It also says that this athletic activity must require skill or physical prowess. According to that definition, video games do not count. Also: Uh, random people are exactly who defines words. Do you think there is some committee of intelligentsia who rule on these matters? Some kind of linguistic oligarchy? Do they do this at the UN? Maybe they just ask the Queen of England? Or did ol' Johnny English write down all the definitions for all the words when he invented the language? Perhaps Merriam and Webster use a ouija board and blood sacrifice to ask god, since everyone knows he speaks English anyways? Random people are exactly who define words - the the mass collective of society defines words and I'd be willing to bet that if you surveyed every single native English speaker and asked them if video games qualify as an athletic activity, the vast majority would say no. | ||
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bigbadgreen
United States142 Posts
The time thing. Many other sports often don't follow their projected time slots. Overtime is a huge one. Sports all the time are tied and need overtime. Programs are rearranged all the time to accomodate these things. Things like golf, tennis and baseball are widely unpredictable reguarding time estimates. Nascar is interrupted all the time by rain and the announcers have to use all kinds of filler stories to kill time. Similar things can be done with SC2. Third is the secret weapon of SC2. Day 9. Plain and simple he is an awesome abassador. He can relate to the general public. If joe public tunes in and hears day 9 and his excitment and approach to the game they will be sucked in. Excitement breeds excitement. He has developed a way to relate the game to the general public. I'm not even sure if he has realized how much he has honed this skill through his dailies. Newbie tuesday is custom catered to people who don't know everything about the game and breaks it down into easy to understand content. I think with all of these things going as well as the growth of esports it's atleast worth looking at and I'm glad espn and sc2 promoters are coming together. In the mind of the general public tv legitimizes things. If it's on tv then it's for real. This could be the push that SC2 needs to really break wide open. If it fails it won't effect anything anyways because the structure for streaming and the community following is already there. | ||
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bigbadgreen
United States142 Posts
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Munk-E
United States672 Posts
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NinjaDarkMatter
8 Posts
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
On October 03 2011 10:36 bigbadgreen wrote: as a side note i can't call sc2 a sport. Your physical conditioning is never a concern to your playing readiness or ability. I don't think approaching this from an sc2 is a sport perspective is the right way to go. You risk taking on the battle of other things that aren't sports trying to gain importance by claiming to be a sport. sc2 is a game, but that game requires skill and much dedication to excel at. It follows characteristcs of sports but lacks the actual physical aspect. Therefore it's right to be shown on espn, but wrong to be marketed as a sport. I think esport is a fine term to use though because it distinguishes it from sport. When players are lifting weights and running miles at a time to improve their play then it's a sport, until then it's a game. A lot of non physical things are on ESPN 2. Poker, pool, ect. | ||
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zoLo
United States5896 Posts
On October 03 2011 10:42 NinjaDarkMatter wrote: I'm all for starcraft on TV, don't get me wrong, but I also want my fair dose of baseball, football, hockey, etc..... So Just make GomTV Gom TV There's a reason why it's called ESPN 2. | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
On October 03 2011 09:11 Assirra wrote: Sigh, its not about nay saying or anything. We are talking about ESPN, a channel for the mainstream audience (i think, not american). Its simple, if the masses don't consider it as one, it doesn't matter if it fits in the definition and such. The fact is, for them you are still just playing a video game. So since the they don't consider it as one, do you think it will get the same rules as one? I mean about the ppl talking here but in x sport its like that. Believe me, i want it to be considered as one, and we are making progress but we simply aren't there yet. im sorry you dont understand whats really happening, i hope you start playing tons of starcraft 2, i wish i could. if you have watched this scene since 2005, then go for it, tell me im wrong, but otherwise just hear what im saying as the reality thats coming, and dive in if you have a computer capable of playing starcraft 2. | ||
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j3i
United States357 Posts
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wattabeast
United States957 Posts
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bigbadgreen
United States142 Posts
On October 03 2011 10:36 bigbadgreen wrote: as a side note i can't call sc2 a sport. Your physical conditioning is never a concern to your playing readiness or ability. I don't think approaching this from an sc2 is a sport perspective is the right way to go. You risk taking on the battle of other things that aren't sports trying to gain importance by claiming to be a sport. sc2 is a game, but that game requires skill and much dedication to excel at. It follows characteristcs of sports but lacks the actual physical aspect. Therefore it's right to be shown on espn, but wrong to be marketed as a sport. I think esport is a fine term to use though because it distinguishes it from sport. When players are lifting weights and running miles at a time to improve their play then it's a sport, until then it's a game. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A lot of non physical things are on ESPN 2. Poker, pool, ect. covered that, plus my previous post right above the one quoted gives my reasons why this works on the espn network | ||
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xlava
United States676 Posts
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tsuxiit
1305 Posts
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xlava
United States676 Posts
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polysciguy
United States488 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
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FragRaptor
United States184 Posts
On October 03 2011 11:00 wattabeast wrote: they should make another ESPN chanel, call it ESpN (ES(P)ortsNetwork). That'd be sickckkkkk eSPN (eSportsProgrammingNetwork) FTFY I hope Sundance made the right decision.  | ||
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