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MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
October 02 2011 21:20 GMT
#721
TBH the way I have always thought of SC working on TV is in a similar way to how snooker works on the BBC. You have a full day to show everything like an MLG, and when a match starts It gets broadcast and when It is over they do some analysis and move onto the next Match. if no matches are ready to start you either jump into a match going on at the same time or watch a replay of a Good match that has already happened. Sort of similar to MLG now but rather than tons of downtime you fill that time in.

The other way is all Delayed broadcasting and you get rid of all the between match delays and can schedule adverts much better. The main issues with this is that if you delay the games too much they become out of date, it is more conduceive to a fixed time and long games can screw that over and may end up being cut out but as long as Replays are released It wont be too big of an issue for most people I think.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 22:38:13
October 02 2011 22:33 GMT
#722
The idea is cool but I think we need to wait some more time for the scene to grow so it really can work on TV on a more adequate schedule. I feel it's too soon for TV to give it the minimum amount of time/quality schedule for it to be interesing in a random TV spectator's point of view. There needs to exist a bigger scene so MLG can have the power to negociate a nicer amount of exposure. Maybe in a year or so, when MLG's yearly format stabilizes.

And to the people that are saying they prefer to watch SC2 on streams, this isn't aimed at you. Stuff doesn't grow if it's always being catered to the same people.
tarodotoxin
Profile Joined July 2011
United States110 Posts
October 02 2011 22:34 GMT
#723
sc2 is an esport, not a real sport....they should put it on g4 tv....that channel has so much garbage, SC2 seems like a very viable option for that channel
Tippecanoe
Profile Joined May 2011
United States342 Posts
October 02 2011 22:46 GMT
#724
On October 03 2011 07:34 tarodotoxin wrote:
sc2 is an esport, not a real sport....they should put it on g4 tv....that channel has so much garbage, SC2 seems like a very viable option for that channel



How is SC2 not a real sport?

An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.

Taken from Dictionary.com

Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 23:41:56
October 02 2011 23:40 GMT
#725
On October 03 2011 07:46 Tippecanoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 07:34 tarodotoxin wrote:
sc2 is an esport, not a real sport....they should put it on g4 tv....that channel has so much garbage, SC2 seems like a very viable option for that channel



How is SC2 not a real sport?

An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.

Taken from Dictionary.com


The problem here is the first part, athletic activity.
Go ask random ppl if they consider playing a video game as athletic activity.

The closest with starcraft at this time you will get is esport.
Pulzlulz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany412 Posts
October 02 2011 23:42 GMT
#726
On October 03 2011 08:40 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 07:46 Tippecanoe wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:34 tarodotoxin wrote:
sc2 is an esport, not a real sport....they should put it on g4 tv....that channel has so much garbage, SC2 seems like a very viable option for that channel



How is SC2 not a real sport?

An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.

Taken from Dictionary.com


The problem here is the first part, athletic activity.
Go ask random ppl if they consider playing a video game as athletic activity.

The closest with starcraft at this time you will get is esport.

Random people aren't defining words.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
October 02 2011 23:42 GMT
#727
On October 03 2011 08:42 Pulzlulz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:40 Assirra wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:46 Tippecanoe wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:34 tarodotoxin wrote:
sc2 is an esport, not a real sport....they should put it on g4 tv....that channel has so much garbage, SC2 seems like a very viable option for that channel



How is SC2 not a real sport?

An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.

Taken from Dictionary.com


The problem here is the first part, athletic activity.
Go ask random ppl if they consider playing a video game as athletic activity.

The closest with starcraft at this time you will get is esport.

Random people aren't defining words.

Sure, then please tell me where it saids that starcraft is an athletic activity or how it is considered as one.
SgtDK
Profile Joined December 2009
United States54 Posts
October 02 2011 23:49 GMT
#728
Starcraft is a sport. It's actually a lot like tennis. You have to build strong mechanics in both activities before achieving anything else. Besides, dictionary.com isn't the best reference for ideas like this. It's for basic things. Definition essays exist for a reason. So maybe one day we'll see a popular essay about the definition of sports and the inclusion/exclusion of eSPORTS.
groms
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1017 Posts
October 02 2011 23:54 GMT
#729
I don't have a TV and if I did I doubt I would pay to get cable to watch this. That being said I know lots of people who will if it is broadcasted on a premier channel such as ESPN. Hopefully they aren't overreaching and the popularity of SC2 continues to grow.
I have a recurring dream that I'm running away from a terran player but the marauders keep slowing me down. - Artosis
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 00:02:06
October 02 2011 23:58 GMT
#730
to anyone trying to say starcraft is not sport, then you can hear this.

I say that gaming will be considered as a sport some day. It will be in its own catagory and not compared to other sports, but be in itself a sport, problem is that people have their heads up their asses so they dont think to when sports were made up, there was no technology. Now there is. Times change sports come from different types of games. Whether the game is hockey, starcraft, or fishing. Welcome to the future nay sayers.

And for anyone saying that starcraft is not physically demanding enough to be a sport, i just have to say, go watch golf. Sad that we still have to compare starcraft to other sports, but gaming is not that far ahead yet, in the next ten years it will be for sure though, so 2020 gaming will be considered sports but it will just be called gaming. I thought people knew this already...
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
MERLIN.
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada546 Posts
October 03 2011 00:02 GMT
#731
Any news on this? This was yesterday wasn't it?
"A bullet to the head will solve your problems."
Sky0
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States214 Posts
October 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#732
a program at practically no cost for espn with a high interested community and viewer group. Nothing but upside for ESPN, who typically plays horrible programs on ESPN2.
"We are not retreating, we are advancing in another direction"
Escoffier
Profile Joined May 2010
United States120 Posts
October 03 2011 00:04 GMT
#733
if chess is a sport why isn't starcraft?
Everhate
Profile Joined September 2010
United States640 Posts
October 03 2011 00:08 GMT
#734
On October 03 2011 09:04 Escoffier wrote:
if chess is a sport why isn't starcraft?


Same for car racing (though it could be argued there's more of a physical component there than gaming...but not a huge disparity) and ESPN airs both that and poker tournaments.

I believe they even had a few madden tournaments a couple of years ago, so it seems within reason that sc could be included at some point. It would certainly broaden the audience to a different base.
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
October 03 2011 00:11 GMT
#735
On October 03 2011 08:42 Pulzlulz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:40 Assirra wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:46 Tippecanoe wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:34 tarodotoxin wrote:
sc2 is an esport, not a real sport....they should put it on g4 tv....that channel has so much garbage, SC2 seems like a very viable option for that channel



How is SC2 not a real sport?

An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.

Taken from Dictionary.com


The problem here is the first part, athletic activity.
Go ask random ppl if they consider playing a video game as athletic activity.

The closest with starcraft at this time you will get is esport.

Random people aren't defining words.




Things like Poker, Curling, Snooker, Darts, Bowling, Golf, etc. All have their controversy concerning this matter and it will never go away, simply because individuals have their own standards. But if Poker got accepted by ESPN as a sport, then SC2 can also be accepted as a sport regardless of what you or the dictionary definition says.
/commercial
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-03 00:12:30
October 03 2011 00:11 GMT
#736
On October 03 2011 08:58 wishbones wrote:
to anyone trying to say starcraft is not sport, then you can hear this.

I say that gaming will be considered as a sport some day. It will be in its own catagory and not compared to other sports, but be in itself a sport, problem is that people have their heads up their asses so they dont think to when sports were made up, there was no technology. Now there is. Times change sports come from different types of games. Whether the game is hockey, starcraft, or fishing. Welcome to the future nay sayers.

And for anyone saying that starcraft is not physically demanding enough to be a sport, i just have to say, go watch golf. Sad that we still have to compare starcraft to other sports, but gaming is not that far ahead yet, in the next ten years it will be for sure though, so 2020 gaming will be considered sports but it will just be called gaming. I thought people knew this already...

Sigh, its not about nay saying or anything.
We are talking about ESPN, a channel for the mainstream audience (i think, not american).
Its simple, if the masses don't consider it as one, it doesn't matter if it fits in the definition and such.
The fact is, for them you are still just playing a video game.
So since the they don't consider it as one, do you think it will get the same rules as one? I mean about the ppl talking here but in x sport its like that.

Believe me, i want it to be considered as one, and we are making progress but we simply aren't there yet.
rd
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2586 Posts
October 03 2011 00:19 GMT
#737
On October 03 2011 09:11 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:58 wishbones wrote:
to anyone trying to say starcraft is not sport, then you can hear this.

I say that gaming will be considered as a sport some day. It will be in its own catagory and not compared to other sports, but be in itself a sport, problem is that people have their heads up their asses so they dont think to when sports were made up, there was no technology. Now there is. Times change sports come from different types of games. Whether the game is hockey, starcraft, or fishing. Welcome to the future nay sayers.

And for anyone saying that starcraft is not physically demanding enough to be a sport, i just have to say, go watch golf. Sad that we still have to compare starcraft to other sports, but gaming is not that far ahead yet, in the next ten years it will be for sure though, so 2020 gaming will be considered sports but it will just be called gaming. I thought people knew this already...

Sigh, its not about nay saying or anything.
We are talking about ESPN, a channel for the mainstream audience (i think, not american).
Its simple, if the masses don't consider it as one, it doesn't matter if it fits in the definition and such.
The fact is, for them you are still just playing a video game.
So since the they don't consider it as one, do you think it will get the same rules as one? I mean about the ppl talking here but in x sport its like that.

Believe me, i want it to be considered as one, and we are making progress but we simply aren't there yet.


Who cares? If they can't enjoy it to the point they'll refuse to acknowledge it's classification as a sport, they wouldn't be watching in the first place. Anyone who would enjoy watching SC2 on ESPN would probably admit it's a sport. If they enjoy watching it and won't admit it, well, they're still watching.
crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
October 03 2011 00:29 GMT
#738
On October 03 2011 08:42 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 03 2011 08:42 Pulzlulz wrote:
On October 03 2011 08:40 Assirra wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:46 Tippecanoe wrote:
On October 03 2011 07:34 tarodotoxin wrote:
sc2 is an esport, not a real sport....they should put it on g4 tv....that channel has so much garbage, SC2 seems like a very viable option for that channel



How is SC2 not a real sport?

An athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.

Taken from Dictionary.com


The problem here is the first part, athletic activity.
Go ask random ppl if they consider playing a video game as athletic activity.

The closest with starcraft at this time you will get is esport.

Random people aren't defining words.

Sure, then please tell me where it saids that starcraft is an athletic activity or how it is considered as one.

Your profile says you're from Belgium. Do you not understand what the word "or" means?
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
October 03 2011 00:38 GMT
#739
I really don't see the need for Starcraft to be on TV. I mean what's the highest amount of viewers for an SC2 stream to date? 80,000? Is that even enough to sustain a TV show? Internet streaming is a perfectly fine way to watch it, and we'd be foolish to think that people who don't understand the game will want to watch it on TV.
Drmooose
Profile Joined March 2011
United States390 Posts
October 03 2011 00:43 GMT
#740
If this happened I'd be really excited. It'd legitimize it in a lot of eyes as something more than just a normal video game. I would agree that G4 would be a better channel to start it on but ESPN would be huge
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