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On October 02 2011 03:26 Bortlett wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 02:52 nerdoplex wrote:
No, ESPN is made for real sports, not eSports. I love them both but keep eSports online and off American TV. Because Scrabble, poker, and darts are real sports, unlike Starcraft. As others have said, there's zero downside. This probably won't even cost that much for ESPN, and Starcraft caters to the valuable 18-35 male demographic. It's not like MLG is broadcasting on ESPN instead of streams.
Games need to stay where it belongs, on the internet. I believe this would ruin ESPN but if they made a channel just for games then it seems fine to me. The channel can support news, tournaments, upcoming information, etc and be completely separate from ESPN.
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On October 02 2011 06:30 Awesomeness wrote:
Eurosport would be great imo. They air a lot of sports that aren't very popular and always try to show as much live-content as possible. They also did bits about eSport in the past so it would be fitting.
I'm looking forward to the day when I see SC2 on Eurosport cast by TB+Apollo.
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On October 02 2011 06:39 nerdoplex wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 03:26 Bortlett wrote:On October 02 2011 02:52 nerdoplex wrote:
No, ESPN is made for real sports, not eSports. I love them both but keep eSports online and off American TV. Because Scrabble, poker, and darts are real sports, unlike Starcraft. As others have said, there's zero downside. This probably won't even cost that much for ESPN, and Starcraft caters to the valuable 18-35 male demographic. It's not like MLG is broadcasting on ESPN instead of streams. Games need to stay where it belongs, on the internet. I believe this would ruin ESPN but if they made a channel just for games then it seems fine to me. The channel can support news, tournaments, upcoming information, etc and be completely separate from ESPN.
lmao you think this would ruin ESPN? how melodramatic... even if it failed completely it would ruin only some investments made by MLG/ESPN producers, not ESPN.
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for the non gamer, watching SC on espn will be about as interesting as watching paint dry. they tried it with MTG and it didn't end well.
+ Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuXalg4PKs
this failed hard. especially because as an average viewer, i have no interest in MTG and would've changed the channel after trying to figure out this freakshow for 30 seconds. sorry, it's the truth.
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On October 02 2011 06:39 nerdoplex wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 03:26 Bortlett wrote:On October 02 2011 02:52 nerdoplex wrote:
No, ESPN is made for real sports, not eSports. I love them both but keep eSports online and off American TV. Because Scrabble, poker, and darts are real sports, unlike Starcraft. As others have said, there's zero downside. This probably won't even cost that much for ESPN, and Starcraft caters to the valuable 18-35 male demographic. It's not like MLG is broadcasting on ESPN instead of streams. Games need to stay where it belongs, on the internet. I believe this would ruin ESPN but if they made a channel just for games then it seems fine to me. The channel can support news, tournaments, upcoming information, etc and be completely separate from ESPN.
Genuinely ruining e-sports. Finally a useful meme
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On October 02 2011 06:52 Terranist wrote:for the non gamer, watching SC on espn will be about as interesting as watching paint dry. they tried it with MTG and it didn't end well. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuXalg4PKs
this failed hard. especially because as an average viewer, i have no interest in MTG and would've changed the channel after trying to figure out this freakshow for 30 seconds. sorry, it's the truth.
Magic the gathering is much harder to understand than SC IMO. Sc you see shit blowing up everywhere, MTG is a card game. Biiig difference. I think people would at least get curious in sc.
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About the ads ..... You know there is a GIANT bar even without adding the minimap. Or a bo3-5-7 with ads maybe? And this is not a whole new TV channel. It will only show (supposedly) 1 hour a week. This will show how big this is to others, and get it closer to be mainstream. The only thing we have to do as the spectators (or lovers  ) watch this thing or keep the TV open when this show starts. Cmon guys we should stop bashing ESPN or Starcraft and UNITE :p actually there is a giant crowd who never heard of Starcraft. Those people will possibly hear " hey look at this, a game is on TV"
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TV is a downgrade from streaming in my opinion, I would only prefer this if it would get my family to watch it with me.
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On October 02 2011 06:59 Oreo7 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 06:52 Terranist wrote:for the non gamer, watching SC on espn will be about as interesting as watching paint dry. they tried it with MTG and it didn't end well. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuXalg4PKs
this failed hard. especially because as an average viewer, i have no interest in MTG and would've changed the channel after trying to figure out this freakshow for 30 seconds. sorry, it's the truth. Magic the gathering is much harder to understand than SC IMO. Sc you see shit blowing up everywhere, MTG is a card game. Biiig difference. I think people would at least get curious in sc.
I only needed to watch the first 30 secs, nothing blows or ground doesnt cover in blood.
Btw MTG is a nerdfest and "normal people" (Thats what they call themselves I suppose)dont like nerdy looking stuff
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On October 02 2011 07:02 IveReturned wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 06:59 Oreo7 wrote:On October 02 2011 06:52 Terranist wrote:for the non gamer, watching SC on espn will be about as interesting as watching paint dry. they tried it with MTG and it didn't end well. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuXalg4PKs
this failed hard. especially because as an average viewer, i have no interest in MTG and would've changed the channel after trying to figure out this freakshow for 30 seconds. sorry, it's the truth. Magic the gathering is much harder to understand than SC IMO. Sc you see shit blowing up everywhere, MTG is a card game. Biiig difference. I think people would at least get curious in sc. Watched the first 30 secs, nothing blows or ground doesmt cover blood.
Or tune in during the middle of the game to see drops everywhere, lings run by and DRG's muta control.
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MLG just needs to not fuck this up. They need to make sure that ESPN will run complete games, sets, etc. not just some high light reel to fit the tv schedule. ESPN needs to be willing to play to Starcraft, not vice versa. I have faith that esports will one day be main stream etc, and I hope this is the beginning.
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On October 02 2011 06:52 Terranist wrote:for the non gamer, watching SC on espn will be about as interesting as watching paint dry. they tried it with MTG and it didn't end well. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuXalg4PKs
this failed hard. especially because as an average viewer, i have no interest in MTG and would've changed the channel after trying to figure out this freakshow for 30 seconds. sorry, it's the truth.
While watching that I couldn't help but notice that the commentary was incredibly boring. I think if you had Day[9], HD/Husky, ect. commentating it would be much more entertaining to the average viewer rather than listening to monotone voices.
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On October 02 2011 06:52 Terranist wrote:for the non gamer, watching SC on espn will be about as interesting as watching paint dry. they tried it with MTG and it didn't end well. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuXalg4PKs
this failed hard. especially because as an average viewer, i have no interest in MTG and would've changed the channel after trying to figure out this freakshow for 30 seconds. sorry, it's the truth.
I remember visiting my mothers house during the MLG with the hour long Boxer TvT, and my mother was absolutely absorbed in it. She had never seen the game before, and never watched games when I was growing up, but it made enough sense to her to be entertaining. It's a fun game to watch, even if you don't know it intimately. You don't give it nearly enough credit. Football should be more boring if anything, but tons of people watch Football without understanding the strategy that goes into it.
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a few hours of SC2 a week on ESPN2 would be nice. they could use it to fill in time, and its good publicity. of course, the majority of streams would stay on the internet, but a few games broadcast would be good for SC2, blizzard, and esports in general
its not like they would have a 2 hour block of starcraft every day. at most, it would probably be saturday/sunday afternoons after football season. it cant be any worse to watch than billiards
the only problem i can see is that some of the language casters use is a bit esoteric. it would be hard for them to explain whats going on while making it newbie-friendly
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On October 02 2011 07:01 Soluhwin wrote:
TV is a downgrade from streaming in my opinion, I would only prefer this if it would get my family to watch it with me.
Yeah...the first point is my opinion as well. I never understand this desire from people to move onto television. The internet is so much better than TV in virtually every way. TV ruins things that are incredibly cool without it. I don't even own a television anymore...and have no intention of getting one anytime soon.
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On October 02 2011 07:41 Corrupted wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 07:01 Soluhwin wrote:
TV is a downgrade from streaming in my opinion, I would only prefer this if it would get my family to watch it with me. Yeah...the first point is my opinion as well. I never understand this desire from people to move onto television. The internet is so much better than TV in virtually every way. TV ruins things that are incredibly cool without it. I don't even own a television anymore...and have no intention of getting one anytime soon.
It'd be like getting excited about having SC2 games reported by telegraphers in an auditorium with Tasteless updating a big board with the supplies of two players.
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I'm wondering who the tv exec is...
If he's talking about the exec VP of content I hope he has a good case. He can put anything on anywhere. I see him fairly often, but I need to put together a good proposal before presenting.
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On October 02 2011 07:05 Oreo7 wrote:
MLG just needs to not fuck this up. They need to make sure that ESPN will run complete games, sets, etc. not just some high light reel to fit the tv schedule. ESPN needs to be willing to play to Starcraft, not vice versa. I have faith that esports will one day be main stream etc, and I hope this is the beginning.
Uhh yeah right... you have to be kidding me. ESPN will definitely not run MLG live (for reasons mentioned millions of times). And you're crazy if you think they'd make the time to run SC2 for more than an hour or two at a time. That's enough for two, maybe three BO3s.
Exactly why I'm against this idea. If you really think ESPN is going to show SC2 on a Sunday (keep in mind this is MLG, so you are in the same/similar time zones) over...
1) Fantasy Football Pre-Game Show
2) A Soccer Game (Real Madrid is on ESPN tomorrow)
3) Multiple Random Programming (College Women's Volleyball, BodyBuilding)
4) WNBA
5) Women's Billiards
You gotta be kidding me. Maybe ESPN would cut one of the latter 3. But they aren't going to spend more than a few hours (which is how much each of these programming items get) showing Starcraft.
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On October 02 2011 07:11 Petninja wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2011 06:52 Terranist wrote:for the non gamer, watching SC on espn will be about as interesting as watching paint dry. they tried it with MTG and it didn't end well. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQuXalg4PKs
this failed hard. especially because as an average viewer, i have no interest in MTG and would've changed the channel after trying to figure out this freakshow for 30 seconds. sorry, it's the truth. I remember visiting my mothers house during the MLG with the hour long Boxer TvT, and my mother was absolutely absorbed in it. She had never seen the game before, and never watched games when I was growing up, but it made enough sense to her to be entertaining. It's a fun game to watch, even if you don't know it intimately. You don't give it nearly enough credit. Football should be more boring if anything, but tons of people watch Football without understanding the strategy that goes into it.
Cases like this are remote, if anything. Hate to break it to you.
I'm all for seeing SC2 on ESPN, but I'm not about to get my hopes up that the masses will be converted here.
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YESSSS!! If I can watch it on Mexico of course! If not still YES!!
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