EPTCode S might be losing entertainment value. - Page 19
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Cyrak
Canada536 Posts
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skrzmark
United States1528 Posts
Honestly the MLG system is way worst than GSL at the moment. Talk about staying in for a season for too long? If GSL used MLG format then MVP would of never been in Code A in the first place due to Jan. Championship. The fact is that Code S does in fact cycle new players in each season. I mean the only reason why Code S feels like it doesn't cycle out new players is because the top tier players stay at the top. People say HongUn doesn't deserve Code S but he continues to keep placing top 2 in his group, while you have the same people in MLG placing 0-5 each tournament... Stop trying to derail e-sports by typing OP's saying SC2 games are boring compared to other tournaments. GOMTV is fixing the entertainment value, they're streaming Code A qualifiers, Blizzcon GSL Finals, and watch this Saturday's All-Star match. Most of the MLG cheers you hear at MLG is cheers from the other games anyways. Also: less terrans may be qualifying for Code A due to the new map pool. Just wait for the next patch. Maybe protoss will go for Immortal Busts now. | ||
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bittman
Australia8759 Posts
Also: it's a non issue for me the state of Terran in Korea. Not many players race switch ever in their career, so really it's just that a lot of the best players (ignoring race) in Korea are actually terran. That, to me, is nothing to do with the race but everything to do with the players. I haven't really bought into the imbalance of the game before, though I do think Terran has a lot of advantages at the game design level that mean the race's potential is much higher than the other two, so as time goes on and the metagame gets worked out, Terran starts to look really strong from a viewer standpoint. Anyway, my predominant issue with the GSL tournament is it's use of Best of 1s to determine who is the best option for a Bo3 format tournament. Why not just flip a few coins and make a Ro16 out of it instead? =/ Would be better if they stretched the group stage out a bit. Sure, their goal of being like one GSL a month might fall, but the Ro16 and Up/Down would be more justifiable if players don't just need to all-in two players in a row. Will GSL change though? No probably not, the tournament lives in the shadow of Brood War tournaments which it aspires to. This makes me sad =( | ||
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Hodgy
United States64 Posts
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pdd
Australia9933 Posts
On September 08 2011 10:53 Dommk wrote: There are just as many if not more Protoss/Zerg players as there are Terran. Check out the preliminaries: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_Global_StarCraft_II_League_October/Preliminaries , 44 Protoss, 37 Zerg and 31 Terran from notable teams attended Yeah, but look at the Code S and A distribution for the August GSL. 32/64 players were Terran. That's half. Heck, look at the Korean ladder on sc2ranks. A significant number of top tier (and I'm talking about top top tier) players are Terran. 19 of the Top 30 Korean/TW players are Terran. Compared to other servers where: 15 of the Top 30 Chinese players are Terran 15 of the Top 30 American players are Terran 13 of the Top 30 EU players are Terran The ladder stats aren't really as conclusive as I initially expected (there were times when almost everyone in the Top 20 were Terran) but it nonetheless shows that a lot of the best of the best players in Korea are Terrans. | ||
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el_dawg
United States164 Posts
Like a lot of posters in this thread, I have purchased every GOM ticket, except for the most resent GSL. For me the number one reason Code S has become less interesting to watch is the amount of predictable outcomes. In Starcraft 2, the better player wins almost all the time which is exactly how it should be, but the GSL tournament format does not work well with this fact. So many matches are one sided and predictable. However, I don't think adding variance to the game or tournament structure is the correct choice (not that anyone is really suggesting this). One solution might be a tournament setup with a larger field and Swiss pairings (each round players play against someone with the same overall record before cutting to a top 8 at the end of the season). Each week, the producers could choose a few highlight matches to be played live in studio as well as cast any exceptional replays. Feature matches would be chosen to showcase fan favorites, upcoming talent, players of equal skill, varied match-ups or interesting stories. While this system wouldn't broadcast every match, hopefully the ones chosen would keep fans interested. | ||
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Eps
Canada240 Posts
GOM has no control over these factors. It's up to the players themselves to last. | ||
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MoriyaGXP
Korea (South)240 Posts
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Perseverance
Japan2800 Posts
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OpTicalRH
147 Posts
On September 08 2011 06:48 Grobian wrote: ^this, pls dont ban me, but its the truth.. i still love gsl, i'm but also enjoy tvz but tvt... no sry enough is enough User was temp banned for this post for martyring. "...temp banned for martyring" ROFL, this cracked me up | ||
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theBizness
United States696 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
It really gets boring seeing the same faces every time. I also think that the casting isn't as good as it could be but I'm certain I'm in the minority with that. | ||
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
On September 08 2011 11:00 TolEranceNA wrote: Oh please, the all powerful god, are you serious that we can't like a specific MU? And that means we don't like starcraft in general? Are you serious that we can't have a opinion on different MU? Please, you are not the only one person in the world and everyone has a opinion on MU, you might like T v T and i totally respect that, but if you say if you don't like T v T you dont like starcraft. You, sir, just made one of the most stupid statement i've seen here. How about you read again what I wrote? I said "you don't really love starcraft" There's a difference between "liking" and "really loving" something. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
Sure it would be a little better if there were a few less terrans but overall that doesn't affect my enjoyment too much. | ||
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usethis2
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babylon
8765 Posts
On September 08 2011 11:03 skrzmark wrote: It doesn't matter... Anaheim MLG wasn't that exciting for me, Rayleigh was only good because of Nada reverse sweeping Puma and DRG v Hero which we didn't see. MLG is just becoming a TvT fest as well. We must not have watched the same MLG Raleigh. Raleigh was a massive improvement on Anaheim in terms of racial distribution and non-TvT match-ups. Or have you forgotten that the finals and the winner's bracket finals were TvZs and the loser's bracket finals was a ZvZ? Oh wait, people just like to complain and say that MLG is just a bunch of TvTvTvT because apparently it's cool and hip to do so. Complain about Anaheim all you want, but stop making it seem like Raleigh was TvT all across the board, because it wasn't. | ||
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Oreo7
United States1647 Posts
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Xxavi
United States1248 Posts
Even ZvTs are getting boring for me. The fact that Terran had too many useful units, too many options was known from Day 1. Don't know why they have to keep it the way it is. Basically, these days, I only watch MLGs. And I skip TvTs and good chunk of ZvTs. | ||
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Bart
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askTeivospy
1525 Posts
GSTL is still fun to watch but i have life stuff to do the next morning and even if i didnt then staying up late will simply fuck up my sleeping habits for the day after and its annoying to try and fix it ._> Thus I RARELY watch GSL anymore | ||
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