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Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 13:00:02
August 29 2011 12:46 GMT
#1
Taken from Na'vi's website:


Natus Vincere in the person of all its players and gaming squads may boycott ESWC 2011. The decision was driven by new ESWC rules according to which each team or player can now book a slot in the Grand Final for $200 per player or $1000 per team.
Our organization does not encourage such decision and will not participate in the tournament unless new rule is forfeited. The boycott was also supported by some of the world leading e-Sports teams such as fnatic, SK Gaming, mTw, Evil Geniuses и Mousesports.

Natus Vincere CEO Alexander «ZeroGravity» Kokhanovskiy had the following to say:

«We were surprized with the idea to implement a registration fee instead of holding national qualifiers. The decision itself contradicts with the concept of World Championship because anyone can now "buy" himself a slot in the Grand Final. If tournament organizers stay idle to what professional e-Sports teams demand, you will not see ESWC 2010 champions defending their title this year».


http://navi-gaming.com/news_show.php?news_id=9875

ESWC already has a pretty poor reputation and it's unclear to how will actually be attending now.

EDIT: Link to sign up page (basically): http://www.eswc.com/fr/2011/registration/sc2

Magrath
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada292 Posts
August 29 2011 12:51 GMT
#2
That's crazy. Money shouldn't rule esports to a point where you can buy your way in to touraments.
Anything can be acheived through persistence and thought
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
August 29 2011 12:55 GMT
#3
rofl wth???
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
August 29 2011 12:57 GMT
#4
Hopefully the ESWC guys on TL clear this up a bit, because this seems a bit silly
Go go Alliance.
TheSilverfox
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 13:00:58
August 29 2011 13:00 GMT
#5
ESWC have a really bad reputation with not paying out their money.

They also claim that the Prize Pool for 2011 StarCraft2 tournament is $66 000 with $24 000 to the winner: http://www.eswc.com/en/info/major-announcements-about-the-eswc-tournaments/1

With this news & ESWCs reputation - will anyone come to play in this tournament? I mean, it's a lot of potential money to the winner but you really can't be sure when you get them.
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FranzP
Profile Joined November 2010
France270 Posts
August 29 2011 13:00 GMT
#6
I'm not sure ESWC has A GUY on TL. Since the change of owner it really hasn't been the same in France with ESWC. That's a shame it was my favourite event and the one that taught me about international ESPORT.
"Cyberhacking is kind of like masturbation I guess, all countries do it but nobody actually talks about it. China just was accidentally doing it with the door wide open." Newbistic
malaan
Profile Joined September 2010
365 Posts
August 29 2011 13:01 GMT
#7
ESWC Is and always has been a joke. I participated in the ESWC's of the early 2000's with Counter Strike and they where always plagued with stupid idiotic rules (such things as flash bugging on maps which had bugged boxes) and blatantly rigged seeding so that teams sponsored by certain companies would have an easy route to the finals.

In my experience, they where always about the money. It was never about the games. Thats why CPL took over everything worth talking about in the CS scene back then.
Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
August 29 2011 13:02 GMT
#8
I thought this was only for teams/players from countries that didn't have any ESWC qualifier?
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
August 29 2011 13:02 GMT
#9
lol what the fuck?

Stupidity overwhelming... Who, in clear mind, would add rules like that? Seriously?
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
rareh
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal298 Posts
August 29 2011 13:04 GMT
#10
On August 29 2011 22:00 TheSilverfox wrote:
ESWC have a really bad reputation with not paying out their money.



Its indeed really sad when people train so hard and don't get their prize money as a reward.
Btw Intel Extreme Masters also has a very bad reputation of not paying out the money.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
August 29 2011 13:04 GMT
#11
On August 29 2011 22:02 Tschis wrote:
lol what the fuck?

Stupidity overwhelming... Who, in clear mind, would add rules like that? Seriously?


someone who needs money and is kinda desperate...
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6324 Posts
August 29 2011 13:05 GMT
#12
Shouldve made it atleast 5k$ to get a slot.

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joke obviously this is just dumb lol charging to be able to participate in the finals


JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 29 2011 13:05 GMT
#13
This is absolutely ridiculous. If true and it remains unchanged, I hope we as a community do not support their event through viewership.

Arcanne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1519 Posts
August 29 2011 13:07 GMT
#14
This is hilarious. Might as well sell 1st place.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-29 13:10:59
August 29 2011 13:07 GMT
#15
On August 29 2011 22:01 malaan wrote:
ESWC Is and always has been a joke. I participated in the ESWC's of the early 2000's with Counter Strike and they where always plagued with stupid idiotic rules (such things as flash bugging on maps which had bugged boxes) and blatantly rigged seeding so that teams sponsored by certain companies would have an easy route to the finals.

In my experience, they where always about the money. It was never about the games. Thats why CPL took over everything worth talking about in the CS scene back then.


I have no personal experience of ESWC, but this is what i have heard also.

Not really a surprise that big teams doesn't want to participate/are boycotting it. The rule that the teams are against, sounds really stupid to me also.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FranzP
Profile Joined November 2010
France270 Posts
August 29 2011 13:08 GMT
#16
On August 29 2011 22:02 Seronei wrote:
I thought this was only for teams/players from countries that didn't have any ESWC qualifier?


It is indeed for people who don't have qualifiers in their country.
"Cyberhacking is kind of like masturbation I guess, all countries do it but nobody actually talks about it. China just was accidentally doing it with the door wide open." Newbistic
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
August 29 2011 13:14 GMT
#17
Wait, so there will be no national qualifiers?
Believing in what lies ahead. | That which we call a rose, by any other name would smell as sweet.
busbarn
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden984 Posts
August 29 2011 13:16 GMT
#18
It's a bit silly to boycott for something like this imo. AFAIK winners of qualifiers get paid travel etc, so my point is, I think that the teams would rather qualify than buying a spot, no? Also more teams/players the merrier?
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
August 29 2011 13:17 GMT
#19
I think I can with MLG with money now!!!! :D
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
August 29 2011 13:21 GMT
#20
On August 29 2011 22:16 busbarn wrote:
It's a bit silly to boycott for something like this imo. AFAIK winners of qualifiers get paid travel etc, so my point is, I think that the teams would rather qualify than buying a spot, no? Also more teams/players the merrier?


Your post made no sense at all.

On topic: Ridiculous. Who would come up with such an idea with a straigth face.
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