EPTLooks like they do have qualifiers in 27 countries, but I don't see how this could be much worse than NASL.
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
Looks like they do have qualifiers in 27 countries, but I don't see how this could be much worse than NASL. | ||
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1800STFU
158 Posts
Why would they isolate the community for such an amount. | ||
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iinsight
Canada293 Posts
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
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Lolli92
Germany109 Posts
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TheSilverfox
Sweden1928 Posts
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kYem
United Kingdom412 Posts
There will be national qualification as usual, so nothing changing here... "These applications are reserved exclusively to player teams who do not have a national ESWC qualification system set up in their country. " And i think it's a great thing for those countries, because they do have a chance to participate even though their national organisation fails so much that they don't even have a qualification.... I dont really understand were is the problem here, maybe there could be abuse with nationalities like some swe team registering as some African team or something like that, but obviously ESWC could just reject them based on team rosters. They can't fake their ID.... There is something else which has to be explained. Edit ------ Maybe it's about numbers ? How many teams allowed to register from the same country? Or players? Edit2 ----------------- Sweden doesn't have qualifiers, that's explain a lot from were this is coming from since there like a lot of players/teams who could snatch the prize money. But seriously Sweden ? How come they don't have it... really strange, anyone knows why ? | ||
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rareh
Portugal298 Posts
On August 29 2011 22:46 Bash wrote: They have a bad reputation of taking a loong time to pay out, but I have never heard of an instance where they didn't pay eventually. Well then you could say the same about ESWC, they can pay you in 100 years. | ||
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halvorg
Norway717 Posts
Sweden: + Show Spoiler + Half the foreign scene. Canada: + Show Spoiler + Kiwikaki, drewbie +++ Chile: + Show Spoiler + dignitasKiller Taiwain: + Show Spoiler + Sen, Softball ++ China: + Show Spoiler + xigua, xiaot, lovecd, lovett and a billion others. Mexico: + Show Spoiler + Major Isreal: + Show Spoiler + Osho Australia: + Show Spoiler + Moonglade Italy: + Show Spoiler + ClouD As I mentioned earlier in the thread, NASL and IPL charge money for qualifiers (but give back if you make it to playoffs), MLG charges 70$ for every player outside pool play. | ||
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flowSthead
1065 Posts
On August 29 2011 23:46 halvorg wrote: As I mentioned earlier in the thread, NASL and IPL charge money for qualifiers (but give back if you make it to playoffs), MLG charges 70$ for every player outside pool play. Correct me if I am wrong, but the difference is that MLG and NASL charge you money to participate, not qualify. The $10 or $25 or whatever that NASL charges is to make sure good players sign up for their open bracket. MLG's $70 is a participation fee, but it doesn't put you anywhere higher in the open bracket. It seems from the OP that these countries without qualifiers would just get the teams that pay to instantly be in a slot in a tournament that has other teams that qualified. So if Sweden doesn't have qualifiers but the US does, then Idra will have to defeat a lot of people to make it while Morrow would have to pay to make it. That actually does not seem fair, not only to the people like Idra that might qualify, but the others that were knocked out by him that could not qualify. But again, I could be misinterpreting what people are saying. This is a little confusing. | ||
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Divine-Sneaker
Denmark1225 Posts
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FranzP
France270 Posts
On August 29 2011 23:51 flowSthead wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but the difference is that MLG and NASL charge you money to participate, not qualify. The $10 or $25 or whatever that NASL charges is to make sure good players sign up for their open bracket. MLG's $70 is a participation fee, but it doesn't put you anywhere higher in the open bracket. It seems from the OP that these countries without qualifiers would just get the teams that pay to instantly be in a slot in a tournament that has other teams that qualified. So if Sweden doesn't have qualifiers but the US does, then Idra will have to defeat a lot of people to make it while Morrow would have to pay to make it. That actually does not seem fair, not only to the people like Idra that might qualify, but the others that were knocked out by him that could not qualify. But again, I could be misinterpreting what people are saying. This is a little confusing. That's a bit unfair if you let everyone who pays $200 into the finals. But it's a candidature thing. If five teams from sweden apply for the ESWC finals they are not assured to be accepted, there will be a review of the candidature based "achievement" and national representation (i.e they won't let 12 teams from the same country into the finals) and then they will have to pay the $200/player to come because they are not sponsored by a qualifier. In fact One of the thing people don't take into consideration is that those $200/player are probably paid by the people who organize qualifiers in the different country. And if you don't have a qualifiers that sponsors you, you have to pay (or you real sponsor has to). | ||
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Xanatoss
Germany539 Posts
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LittleAtari
Jordan1090 Posts
NASL's fee is a deposit that is meant to be used to punish players for unprofessional conduct. MLG's fee is a participation fee to the open bracket. Almost think of it as purchasing a ticket into a convention. What ESWC is doing is letting you buy your spot into the grand finals. Where NASL and MLG, you have to qualify for their finals. EDIT: i think the big issue here is probably not wanting to put up with getting the prize money. In the past, you could fly your players and still get publicity for them being there, but now, you have to put 1000$ so that your team can participate. So it's just teams not wanting to put up with ESWC | ||
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
Not sure how that would help E-Sports by making a ton of players ineligible. | ||
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sureshot_
United States257 Posts
On August 30 2011 00:18 Corrik wrote: There is no other way for those players to qualify. So you would rather have Jinro and the likes ineligible rather than let them put up some money to have a chance? Not sure how that would help E-Sports by making a ton of players ineligible. So the grand finals should be whoever pays top dollar then right? Why on earth would you try to support a tournament with this type of rule. | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
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Corrik
United States1416 Posts
On August 30 2011 00:26 sureshot_ wrote: So the grand finals should be whoever pays top dollar then right? Why on earth would you try to support a tournament with this type of rule. You can't pay for a spot unless your country does not have a qualifier... and even then they weed out players. Instead of complaining, actually read the topic. | ||
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Yaki
France4234 Posts
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Otolia
France5805 Posts
1st : Ukraine has a qualifiers. Thus Na'Vi should be able to qualify through this. 2nd : the "booking" is just a secured place for the countries who don't have Online qualifiers (at least that's how I understand that) and doesn't grant a place in the finals just in the bracket. 3rd : Na'Vi DotA team just won 1M, and 1000€ is too much for them ? Oh spare me. Not every team has the financial back-up to do that. And stop whining about money getting over eSports. Players salaries are not disclose as aren't the salaries of non-player staff (as Anno Prosser or Husky or even - yes I dare - Day9) I won't be surprise if they make big bucks. Does it shock me ? No, because they have earned it. | ||
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